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Post by RonD on Apr 4, 2017 8:33:00 GMT
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Post by Rio Doherty on Apr 4, 2017 8:47:01 GMT
I think Hudson is a decent player. We might concede more with him but he likes to get stuck in and isn't afraid. I don't think he's been the best signing though, I would go for lynch.
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Post by blue4life on Apr 4, 2017 9:12:55 GMT
I think Hudson is a decent player. We might concede more with him but he likes to get stuck in and isn't afraid. I don't think he's been the best signing though, I would go for lynch. We might concede more with him is an understatement, he's garbage. |
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Post by eyeswideopen on Apr 4, 2017 11:03:11 GMT
Hudson divides opinion of that there is no doubt. Probably on a par with the one that cant be mentioned with the famous brother.
But please lets make the moderators jobs on here easier by keeping comments non abusive, or personal and criticism constructive.
Just posting this before people see this thread as a free for all to hurl abuse.
Thanks
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Post by agl on Apr 4, 2017 11:27:01 GMT
I guess we all have those players we just don't rate and Hudson is mine. Distribution is beyond poor and although he does win his share of headers, he tends to get out-muscled on too many 50-50s. First thing I'd do is get him working on upper body strength. Looks like he's going to be with us next season, which fills me with a sense of dread. We leak far too many goals when he plays..I can't believe there isn't a better centre half we can pick up for the same money.
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Post by Hannibal on Apr 4, 2017 11:56:03 GMT
He's the weak link in the defence, although he had one of his better games on Saturday. Probably on a par with Charnock.
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Post by Si on Apr 4, 2017 11:59:51 GMT
I'm not a fan. Thought he was steady enough at first but it's no coincidence that we ship a lot of goals with him in the side. His distribution is amongst the worst I've seen at this level, rarely gets enough distance on his headers, frequently gets caught for pace, and like another poster says for a big guy he actually gets out muscled a lot as he doesn't have a lot of upper body strength. The only way I'd keep him is if he was on peanuts and was 3rd or 4th choice, but I'd be amazed if there aren't better centre half available in the summer even on our budget. That being side, clearly he is staying so it is what it is!
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Post by Hannibal on Apr 4, 2017 12:18:30 GMT
Actually for our manager to come out with the comment, 'best ever signing' if true, is quite embarrassing really.
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Post by Krankie's Ghost on Apr 4, 2017 12:19:10 GMT
I like that JM defends his players to the hilt, i know it can be annoying but i imagine as a player it's what you want. Blaine will be fine with someone around him with a bit of pace. I think people are being unfair on him as they've not seen Hughes and Hudson play together as Astles has been ever-present. Hughes is the stand-out, and i do wonder whether Astles has a bit of that rubbing off on him as they formed a partnership when Hudson was injured early on.
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Post by paulie on Apr 4, 2017 12:42:35 GMT
Actually for our manager to come out with the comment, 'best ever signing' if true, is quite embarrassing really. He might be goading deva chatters to have a pop at him. Mind games. |
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Post by bethnalblue on Apr 4, 2017 13:15:31 GMT
Actually for our manager to come out with the comment, 'best ever signing' if true, is quite embarrassing really. Most of his interviews these days are embarrassing sadly. |
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Post by sqzl on Apr 4, 2017 13:20:45 GMT
I like that JM defends his players to the hilt, i know it can be annoying but i imagine as a player it's what you want. Blaine will be fine with someone around him with a bit of pace. I think people are being unfair on him as they've not seen Hughes and Hudson play together as Astles has been ever-present. Hughes is the stand-out, and i do wonder whether Astles has a bit of that rubbing off on him as they formed a partnership when Hudson was injured early on. Another thing to consider is that Sam is 1000% not with us next season. So he's going to want to try and build a partnership at the back that he can get stronger in time for next season, not swap and change the defence for a lad that's going to be leaving the club. |
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Post by iandychesterfc on Apr 4, 2017 13:49:15 GMT
I like that JM defends his players to the hilt, i know it can be annoying but i imagine as a player it's what you want. Blaine will be fine with someone around him with a bit of pace. I think people are being unfair on him as they've not seen Hughes and Hudson play together as Astles has been ever-present. Hughes is the stand-out, and i do wonder whether Astles has a bit of that rubbing off on him as they formed a partnership when Hudson was injured early on. Another thing to consider is that Sam is 1000% not with us next season. So he's going to want to try and build a partnership at the back that he can get stronger in time for next season, not swap and change the defence for a lad that's going to be leaving the club. so Sqzl, we're going to sign that other player who we don't know as much about on the same money who's somehow going to be better. On a tight budget, you'd rather have certainties i'd have thought. JM knows what he gets with Hudson, a massive lump who's better in the air than on the floor. |
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Post by sqzl on Apr 4, 2017 14:10:04 GMT
Another thing to consider is that Sam is 1000% not with us next season. So he's going to want to try and build a partnership at the back that he can get stronger in time for next season, not swap and change the defence for a lad that's going to be leaving the club. so Sqzl, we're going to sign that other player who we don't know as much about on the same money who's somehow going to be better. On a tight budget, you'd rather have certainties i'd have thought. JM knows what he gets with Hudson, a massive lump who's better in the air than on the floor. No disrespect, but i can't work out what you're trying to say in that first sentence. Sign who that we don't know much about on the same money? I've not said to sign anybody, i'm saying Hudson and Astles are a potential partnership for next season, where as Hughes and Astles are not, Sam Hughes will not be a Chester player. Therefore i can completely see why JM is sticking to keeping those two at center back, whether they are the best current partnership or not. Perhaps i wasn't clear enoguh in my initial post, but i was referring to Astles/Hudson and the partnership that JM will want to try and grow stronger in time for next season. |
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Post by blue4life on Apr 4, 2017 14:17:53 GMT
Good in the air? Yeah that good he was at fault for 2 of the Tranmeres goals.
If he signs a contract for next season then we're doomed.
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Post by sqzl on Apr 4, 2017 15:12:14 GMT
Good in the air? Yeah that good he was at fault for 2 of the Tranmeres goals. If he signs a contract for next season then we're doomed. Tell me a centre back at conference level who doesn't make mistakes. There's a reason players play in this league. On their day there are players that could play Championship level, but they play at that level maybe one o two games a season. The conference is full of inconsistent talent and that's what you have to develop into consistency that can move on, like Sam Hughes. |
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Post by Almost Blue on Apr 4, 2017 16:39:30 GMT
Hudson is to defending what Hobson is to attacking.
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Post by btb on Apr 4, 2017 17:24:16 GMT
He's a big unit and they are much needed at this level. Bolland, Collins and the other chap who's name I've disgracefully forgotten spring to mind. But for a manager who loves his stats it's a fact that if Hudson plays we tend to concede more than one per game.
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Post by TheTheremin on Apr 4, 2017 17:33:41 GMT
He's good but he's inconsistent. A squad player really as things stand.
But he deserves a chance and perhaps McCarthy can work on his confidence and consistency. I really wish Sharps was still here because Hudson needs that input.
Lynch is the best signing though, as somebody else said
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Post by MPW on Apr 4, 2017 17:51:13 GMT
He's usually a liability
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Post by billyw on Apr 4, 2017 18:14:13 GMT
He's a big unit and they are much needed at this level. Bolland, Collins and the other chap who's name I've disgracefully forgotten spring to mind. But for a manager who loves his stats it's a fact that if Hudson plays we tend to concede more than one per game. Guyett and Hatswell. |
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Post by hjgfdszfbgnh on Apr 4, 2017 18:42:26 GMT
He's good but he's inconsistent. A squad player really as things stand. But he deserves a chance and perhaps McCarthy can work on his confidence and consistency. I really wish Sharps was still here because Hudson needs that input. Lynch is the best signing though, as somebody else said Scott Guyett |
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Post by Arrogant Blue on Apr 4, 2017 20:12:46 GMT
The past few weeks have seen McCarthy make some strange comments but this is probably the one that tops them all! I'd have said he's the worst signing that he's made. No pace, no passing ability and no power. He's the polar opposite to Sam Hughes.
Wrexham fans said he was crap and they've not been proved wrong.
There will be much better players available in the summer for McCarthy to sign. Astles needs a pacy centre back next to him so that he can thrive.
McCarthy says he likes stats, so what's the goals conceded ratio when Hudson plays? He was nowhere near the starting eleven when the team went on the incredible run of clean sheets.
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Post by blue4life on Apr 4, 2017 21:01:30 GMT
He's good but he's inconsistent. A squad player really as things stand. But he deserves a chance and perhaps McCarthy can work on his confidence and consistency. I really wish Sharps was still here because Hudson needs that input. Lynch is the best signing though, as somebody else said Deserves a chance, based on what? |
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Post by Cestrian For Life on Apr 4, 2017 21:09:26 GMT
I want JMc to succeed, I really do. We have no other choice than to back him. But comments like this make me worry. A LOT.
Hudson is at best a good back up. A squad player but definitely not a first team regular from what I have seen. To say he is his best signing is deeply, deeply concerning.
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Post by border collie on Apr 4, 2017 22:59:09 GMT
so Sqzl, we're going to sign that other player who we don't know as much about on the same money who's somehow going to be better. On a tight budget, you'd rather have certainties i'd have thought. JM knows what he gets with Hudson, a massive lump who's better in the air than on the floor. No disrespect, but i can't work out what you're trying to say in that first sentence. Sign who that we don't know much about on the same money? I've not said to sign anybody, i'm saying Hudson and Astles are a potential partnership for next season, where as Hughes and Astles are not, Sam Hughes will not be a Chester player. Therefore i can completely see why JM is sticking to keeping those two at center back, whether they are the best current partnership or not. Perhaps i wasn't clear enoguh in my initial post, but i was referring to Astles/Hudson and the partnership that JM will want to try and grow stronger in time for next season. With that defensive partnership ,we will be relegated |
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Post by TheTheremin on Apr 5, 2017 6:16:29 GMT
No disrespect, but i can't work out what you're trying to say in that first sentence. Sign who that we don't know much about on the same money? I've not said to sign anybody, i'm saying Hudson and Astles are a potential partnership for next season, where as Hughes and Astles are not, Sam Hughes will not be a Chester player. Therefore i can completely see why JM is sticking to keeping those two at center back, whether they are the best current partnership or not. Perhaps i wasn't clear enoguh in my initial post, but i was referring to Astles/Hudson and the partnership that JM will want to try and grow stronger in time for next season. With that defensive partnership ,we will be relegated Nobody said anything about Hudson going back to Wrexham. |
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Post by billyw on Apr 5, 2017 6:52:28 GMT
The club had a 'thank you' meeting with the fans who contribute to Squadbuilder yesterday, and McCarthy made it clear that he rates Hudson very, very highly, both on and off the pitch.
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Post by Jack on Apr 5, 2017 8:48:10 GMT
I don't think Hudson is particularly good or particularly bad. He's a conference centre back and will have lapses in concentration.
If he's a big part of team morale and he's not taking home huge wages then I'd keep him. I do agree he could do with a bit of strength training in the summer, though.
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Post by blue4life on Apr 5, 2017 9:14:08 GMT
He's not good enough simple as I wouldn't even keep him as back up regardless if he's on a low wage.
Like someone has said there are surely loads of quality defenders in the lower leagues or even one of our own, do we even have a scout these days?
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