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Post by avfo on Mar 27, 2020 12:38:59 GMT
From CFC OWS - Chester FC would like to invite supporters to email in questions ahead of an FAQ release on Tuesday by the club. Due to the current situation with the Coronavirus pandemic, the CFU meeting which was scheduled for Wednesday has been cancelled. Therefore, we would encourage all fans to send in any questions they may have for the football club. This is an opportunity to ask the Board or even the Management about all things Blue and White. Simply send us an email with your name to media@chesterfc.com by Sunday midday, the club will then have your questions answered by Tuesday evening. Stay tuned! Once again, thank you for your support. We continue to urge supporters to stay up to date with the latest public health advice, available here: www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/ |
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Post by avfo on Mar 31, 2020 14:17:22 GMT
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Apr 5, 2020 8:01:31 GMT
I’d imagine the lack of urgency from the club regarding the £100,000 is borne out of the fact we have our generous uncle. Now DHW has stood down and his replacement has been more than complementary about our rich uncle, those with concerns over a stealth takeover may be on to something.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Apr 5, 2020 9:41:48 GMT
I’d imagine the lack of urgency from the club regarding the £100,000 is borne out of the fact we have our generous uncle. Now DHW has stood down and his replacement has been more than complementary about our rich uncle, those with concerns over a stealth takeover may be on to something. The timing couldn't be better for Stuart to be the knight in shining armour again! We need a fan as chariman of CFU, someone who will ALWAYS have the best interests of the football club at the core of every decision made. Not some businessman who claims to be fan! This opinion will probably be against the grain but just my thoughts. I am interested to see the direction the club goes in with the help of our generous benefactor though, just don't give him control! |
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Post by gezzer on Apr 5, 2020 11:36:00 GMT
Given the state of the financial markets and investment portfolios the last thing any shrewd businessman would want to do at any time but especially now is to start throwing even more of their own money at a football club. How does the old saying go? "If you want to be a Millionaire, start with a billion and buy a football club"
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Post by Churton Blue on Apr 5, 2020 11:56:48 GMT
I’d imagine the lack of urgency from the club regarding the £100,000 is borne out of the fact we have our generous uncle. Now DHW has stood down and his replacement has been more than complementary about our rich uncle, those with concerns over a stealth takeover may be on to something. The timing couldn't be better for Stuart to be the knight in shining armour again! We need a fan as chariman of CFU, someone who will ALWAYS have the best interests of the football club at the core of every decision made. Not some businessman who claims to be fan! This opinion will probably be against the grain but just my thoughts. I am interested to see the direction the club goes in with the help of our generous benefactor though, just don't give him control! Your thoughts raise two questions in regard to Stuart re joining the Board or becoming Chairman. Firstly is Stuart a CFU member ? and secondly how practical would it be for a Board member/ Chairman to live in Gibraltar ? |
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Post by Hannibal on Apr 5, 2020 12:03:56 GMT
I’d imagine the lack of urgency from the club regarding the £100,000 is borne out of the fact we have our generous uncle. Now DHW has stood down and his replacement has been more than complementary about our rich uncle, those with concerns over a stealth takeover may be on to something. Could it be that uncle Stu might be feeling the pinch also? |
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Post by Churton Blue on Apr 5, 2020 12:13:41 GMT
I’d imagine the lack of urgency from the club regarding the £100,000 is borne out of the fact we have our generous uncle. Now DHW has stood down and his replacement has been more than complementary about our rich uncle, those with concerns over a stealth takeover may be on to something. Could it be that uncle Stu might be feeling the pinch also? Depends on how his Companies get on during the crisis. According to Companies House he has more than one. beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/7Shce6vaV5-hq7zyNeWsPXENIF4/appointments |
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Post by devablue on Apr 5, 2020 12:36:52 GMT
Any reason he owns 4 business that seem to be related to Chester FC? 1. The 1885 Sporting Village Ltd (Stadium) 2. Caer Centurions FC Ltd - Why is this the welsh way of spelling Chester? 3. Caer Romans FC Ltd - Same goes for the above. 4. Chester Romans FC Ltd And more importantly, what is the reason for having all of these companies? Companies House has them all as being 'active' with SM as director. |
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Post by Borderlands on Apr 5, 2020 20:59:53 GMT
I’d imagine the lack of urgency from the club regarding the £100,000 is borne out of the fact we have our generous uncle. Now DHW has stood down and his replacement has been more than complementary about our rich uncle, those with concerns over a stealth takeover may be on to something. The timing couldn't be better for Stuart to be the knight in shining armour again! We need a fan as chariman of CFU, someone who will ALWAYS have the best interests of the football club at the core of every decision made. Not some businessman who claims to be fan! This opinion will probably be against the grain but just my thoughts. I am interested to see the direction the club goes in with the help of our generous benefactor though, just don't give him control! I thought I had read somewhere that he was a Tranmere fan at heart!.....This latest situation reinforces concerns I have had for a while, we need a Chairman that will stand up to the pressure from our pseudo owner. In DHW’s own words “A great thanks.... to Stuart Murphy without whom we may not have seen as much quality football in the past year as we have!“ Just how much is he underwriting the football club for, and if he up sticks and pulls out where does that leave us? Have we been sleepwalking into potential oblivion for the past two years? |
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Post by Churton Blue on Apr 5, 2020 21:15:35 GMT
Any reason he owns 4 business that seem to be related to Chester FC? 1. The 1885 Sporting Village Ltd (Stadium) 2. Caer Centurions FC Ltd - Why is this the welsh way of spelling Chester? 3. Caer Romans FC Ltd - Same goes for the above. 4. Chester Romans FC Ltd And more importantly, what is the reason for having all of these companies? Companies House has them all as being 'active' with SM as director. I do not the know the answer. The only thing I can add is that The 1885 Sporting Village Ltd was originally called Chester Centurions FC Ltd. The Welsh spelling of Chester in the Company names is very odd and slightly worrying. Have to admit I think it is time for absolute transparency and clarity from the Board about our financial position. The Q and A was fine last but a weekly update would be good. I appreciate things are constantly in flux but debates started on twitter are not seen by a lot of supporters. Some information on the above would be helpful as well. |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Apr 5, 2020 21:27:57 GMT
The timing couldn't be better for Stuart to be the knight in shining armour again! We need a fan as chariman of CFU, someone who will ALWAYS have the best interests of the football club at the core of every decision made. Not some businessman who claims to be fan! This opinion will probably be against the grain but just my thoughts. I am interested to see the direction the club goes in with the help of our generous benefactor though, just don't give him control! I thought I had read somewhere that he was a Tranmere fan at heart! This latest situation reinforces concerns I have had for a while, we need a Chairman that will stand up to the pressure from our owner. The new interim Chairman seems somewhat of a stooge. Happy to be proven wrong of course. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 8:47:18 GMT
Do you have inside knowledge or is it a guess.
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Post by Churton Blue on Apr 6, 2020 11:41:51 GMT
Do you have inside knowledge or is it a guess. It could be based on what Banksy said on his twitter account Saturday night. He talked about the current financial issues at the club with money being required after May to keep the club going and then said "Some may see that as an opportunity to take advantage of a fans owned club. How would fans view that right now ? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 12:56:16 GMT
I took that as an opportunity to open general discussion of a cfc based topic. Also as a football based questionnaire. Must admit it got a good response.
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Post by Hannibal on Apr 6, 2020 16:52:26 GMT
I’d imagine the lack of urgency from the club regarding the £100,000 is borne out of the fact we have our generous uncle. Now DHW has stood down and his replacement has been more than complementary about our rich uncle, those with concerns over a stealth takeover may be on to something. Who is his replacement? |
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Post by Deva Chanter on Apr 6, 2020 17:04:04 GMT
I’d imagine the lack of urgency from the club regarding the £100,000 is borne out of the fact we have our generous uncle. Now DHW has stood down and his replacement has been more than complementary about our rich uncle, those with concerns over a stealth takeover may be on to something. Who is his replacement? Andrew Morris until the AGM. |
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Post by Churton Blue on Apr 7, 2020 19:04:01 GMT
Any reason he owns 4 business that seem to be related to Chester FC? 1. The 1885 Sporting Village Ltd (Stadium) 2. Caer Centurions FC Ltd - Why is this the welsh way of spelling Chester? 3. Caer Romans FC Ltd - Same goes for the above. 4. Chester Romans FC Ltd And more importantly, what is the reason for having all of these companies? Companies House has them all as being 'active' with SM as director. One plausible possibility is that Stuart wants to change the name of the club to Chester Romans FC with a reserve team playing in the Welsh pyramid as Caer Romans FC. Not sure how that would go down but it maybe the answer to the somewhat puzzling set of Companies that he owns. |
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Post by Anders on Apr 7, 2020 20:01:23 GMT
Any reason he owns 4 business that seem to be related to Chester FC? 1. The 1885 Sporting Village Ltd (Stadium) 2. Caer Centurions FC Ltd - Why is this the welsh way of spelling Chester? 3. Caer Romans FC Ltd - Same goes for the above. 4. Chester Romans FC Ltd And more importantly, what is the reason for having all of these companies? Companies House has them all as being 'active' with SM as director. One plausible possibility is that Stuart wants to change the name of the club to Chester Romans FC with a reserve team playing in the Welsh pyramid as Caer Romans FC. Not sure how that would go down but it maybe the answer to the somewhat puzzling set of Companies that he owns. Bit speculative.
For what it's worth Dave Powell tweeted this in November -
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Post by Churton Blue on Apr 7, 2020 21:56:37 GMT
One plausible possibility is that Stuart wants to change the name of the club to Chester Romans FC with a reserve team playing in the Welsh pyramid as Caer Romans FC. Not sure how that would go down but it maybe the answer to the somewhat puzzling set of Companies that he owns. Bit speculative.
For what it's worth Dave Powell tweeted this in November -
I understand your point but looking at the tweet the 'holding company for investment' answer does explain the names of the companies he set up. Such companies could have been called anything ? To me it looks like the names of those companies is intended for use at some point in the future and were set up a couple of months before we knew anything. So the the Dave Powell answer does not stack up on a timescale level. The 1885 Sports Village was set up almost 12 months before the plans were made public therefore there was some forward planning involved. Not unreasonable to assume this is the case with Chester Romans FC and Caer Romans FC ? |
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Post by avfo on Apr 7, 2020 23:52:00 GMT
One plausible possibility is that Stuart wants to change the name of the club to Chester Romans FC with a reserve team playing in the Welsh pyramid as Caer Romans FC. Not sure how that would go down but it maybe the answer to the somewhat puzzling set of Companies that he owns. Bit speculative.
For what it's worth Dave Powell tweeted this in November -
Did Dave Powell ever ask that question? I accept it's probably superfluous given that Mr Murphy, and at this moment in time probably deserves to be believed, is on record stating that "We don't want to own a football club, we don't want to run a football club." He has, of course made no secret that he wishes to purchase the land on which the ground is situated. |
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Post by Churton Blue on Apr 8, 2020 15:48:13 GMT
Bit speculative.
For what it's worth Dave Powell tweeted this in November -
Did Dave Powell ever ask that question? I accept it's probably superfluous given that Mr Murphy, and at this moment in time probably deserves to be believed, is on record stating that " We don't want to own a football club, we don't want to run a football club." He has, of course made no secret that he wishes to purchase the land on which the ground is situated. Which means when Board member Banksy worries about the club being taken advantage of during the current crisis on twitter last weekend he is not referring to Mr Murphy as has been speculated. Poses the question what sort of individual or group of individuals would try and exploit the situation to further their own ends. I have to say that I do not think Banksy would say what he did unless he was worried about something ? He would not worry about Stuart Murphy as he is probably trying to help if his current financial situation in the midst of the crisis allows him to. |
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Post by avfo on Apr 8, 2020 22:25:21 GMT
Which means when Board member Banksy worries about the club being taken advantage of during the current crisis on twitter last weekend he is not referring to Mr Murphy as has been speculated. Poses the question what sort of individual or group of individuals would try and exploit the situation to further their own ends. I have to say that I do not think Banksy would say what he did unless he was worried about something ? He would not worry about Stuart Murphy as he is probably trying to help if his current financial situation in the midst of the crisis allows him to. This is what leads me now to think that maybe he (JB) is just speculating? I just can't see any advantage in any take over bid in the foreseeable future. The club is two divisions below the financial comfort blanket that the EFL offers to its clubs, doesn't own but leases the ground. Given that, why would anyone, especially given the current forecast for the next couple of years, make an offer - where is the value? |
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Post by Imperial on Apr 9, 2020 0:16:08 GMT
There is none that I can see. We have no assets & rely on donations to make a profit. This is why I’m firmly in favour of the current model, because nobody would make an offer to invest (as opposed to donate) in us without an ulterior motive as there’s no profit to be made.
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Post by Churton Blue on Apr 9, 2020 20:01:38 GMT
There is none that I can see. We have no assets & rely on donations to make a profit. This is why I’m firmly in favour of the current model, because nobody would make an offer to invest (as opposed to donate) in us without an ulterior motive as there’s no profit to be made. An ulterior motive and and terrible timing if something happened now. Trying to get what you want and using the current crisis to take advantage would not go down well with many supporters I would have thought ? As Stortfordblue suggests donations are the best option for those with honourable motives. |
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Post by avfo on Apr 9, 2020 21:03:38 GMT
What happened to the £1 million donation from Mr Murphy to help the football club? My understanding is that it was to be spread over three years starting in 2018, with the bulk of the money being 'allocated to infrastructure improvements that will enable the club to increase its overall sustainability' and it would also ensure that, 'There will be absolutely no dilution of the principles of fan ownership nor control as a result of this agreement.'
Has all the money already been spent? If it has, then what on? if not, then surely this current crisis would merit some of that £1 million being diverted to help the club. I understand that the original agreement probably contains multiple clauses that determine precisely how and where the money should be spent, but if the money still exists, surely it's not beyond the wit of man (and their legal teams) to restructure the agreement. That way, the club could possibly see out the financial havoc the pandemic is causing with its current ownership model intact.
When outlining his plans to donate £1 million, Mr Murphy talked about "the football club I care so much about", so could anyone really envision him raising any objections? It seems so obvious, so what am I missing?
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Post by dmcnally on Apr 9, 2020 21:14:16 GMT
What happened to the £1 million donation from Mr Murphy to help the football club? My understanding is that it was to be spread over three years starting in 2018, with the bulk of the money being 'allocated to infrastructure improvements that will enable the club to increase its overall sustainability' and it would also ensure that, 'There will be absolutely no dilution of the principles of fan ownership nor control as a result of this agreement.' Has all the money already been spent? If it has, then what on? if not, then surely this current crisis would merit some of that £1 million being diverted to help the club. I understand that the original agreement probably contains multiple clauses that determine precisely how and where the money should be spent, but if the money still exists, surely it's not beyond the wit of man (and their legal teams) to restructure the agreement. That way, the club could possibly see out the financial havoc the pandemic is causing with its current ownership model intact. When outlining his plans to donate £1 million, Mr Murphy talked about "the football club I care so much about", so could anyone really envision him raising any objections? It seems so obvious, so what am I missing? Probably to try and make the strongest case possible to the football governing bodies for help? |
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Post by avfo on Apr 9, 2020 21:41:17 GMT
What happened to the £1 million donation from Mr Murphy to help the football club? My understanding is that it was to be spread over three years starting in 2018, with the bulk of the money being 'allocated to infrastructure improvements that will enable the club to increase its overall sustainability' and it would also ensure that, 'There will be absolutely no dilution of the principles of fan ownership nor control as a result of this agreement.' Has all the money already been spent? If it has, then what on? if not, then surely this current crisis would merit some of that £1 million being diverted to help the club. I understand that the original agreement probably contains multiple clauses that determine precisely how and where the money should be spent, but if the money still exists, surely it's not beyond the wit of man (and their legal teams) to restructure the agreement. That way, the club could possibly see out the financial havoc the pandemic is causing with its current ownership model intact. When outlining his plans to donate £1 million, Mr Murphy talked about "the football club I care so much about", so could anyone really envision him raising any objections? It seems so obvious, so what am I missing? Probably to try and make the strongest case possible to the football governing bodies for help? The FA is pleading poverty and the Greed League doesn't give a flying .... |
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Post by Churton Blue on Apr 10, 2020 9:04:15 GMT
What happened to the £1 million donation from Mr Murphy to help the football club? My understanding is that it was to be spread over three years starting in 2018, with the bulk of the money being 'allocated to infrastructure improvements that will enable the club to increase its overall sustainability' and it would also ensure that, 'There will be absolutely no dilution of the principles of fan ownership nor control as a result of this agreement.' Has all the money already been spent? If it has, then what on? if not, then surely this current crisis would merit some of that £1 million being diverted to help the club. I understand that the original agreement probably contains multiple clauses that determine precisely how and where the money should be spent, but if the money still exists, surely it's not beyond the wit of man (and their legal teams) to restructure the agreement. That way, the club could possibly see out the financial havoc the pandemic is causing with its current ownership model intact. When outlining his plans to donate £1 million, Mr Murphy talked about "the football club I care so much about", so could anyone really envision him raising any objections? It seems so obvious, so what am I missing? I think that is what everybody thought. Has any money been spent on what be could termed infrastructure over the last two years ? If it has does anyone know what exactly ? |
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on May 7, 2020 16:50:39 GMT
SM not quite the knight in shining armour he purports to be I believe?
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