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Post by The Swansway on May 7, 2020 18:27:06 GMT
Straight forward question.
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Post by yossergolf on May 7, 2020 18:33:47 GMT
Voted unsure as no information on his plans or the current state of clubs finances
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Post by g1 on May 7, 2020 18:43:08 GMT
Not sure till I know more then I decide but can't fully dismiss this out of hand
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Post by Lobster on May 7, 2020 18:59:30 GMT
No for me, regardless of the finer details. I feel that we should be proud to be one of the only 100% supporter owned clubs and shouldn't be selling to anyone, let alone someone who hasn't been honest about his reasons for being involved.
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Post by paulie on May 7, 2020 19:02:54 GMT
I can't see him getting 75% approval
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Post by muffinthemule on May 7, 2020 19:34:13 GMT
Does he require 75% of membership or 75% of those who vote. Minimum of 50% members to vote. Therefore 38% of total membership. Have I read this right?
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on May 7, 2020 19:40:56 GMT
Over my dead body.
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Post by Lobster on May 7, 2020 20:08:39 GMT
I can't see him getting 75% approval The polls I've seen on Facebook paint a very different picture to the general scepticism on here.
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Post by devaboyreturns on May 7, 2020 20:09:11 GMT
It has been my opinion for a while that for the Club to move forward it would need investment. So my immediate thoughts on this is positive. We will await further details in the coming weeks so we can all assess this properly when we have all the information
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Post by Oaks Blue on May 7, 2020 20:20:09 GMT
Voted no, he's a liar. Plain and simple
Vote the devious prick out before he sells the lot
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Post by saltneyblueboy on May 7, 2020 20:25:40 GMT
Impossible to answer yet - need to learn more from both club and Stuart Murphy
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Post by bing on May 7, 2020 20:31:53 GMT
Voted no, he's a liar. Plain and simple Vote the devious prick out before he sells the lot He must be a rubbish businessman if he "sells the lot" after DONATING £1m to us!
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Post by Oaks Blue on May 7, 2020 20:35:20 GMT
Voted no, he's a liar. Plain and simple Vote the devious prick out before he sells the lot He must be a rubbish businessman if he "sells the lot" after DONATING £1m to us! Evidence of spending the million please...
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on May 7, 2020 20:36:46 GMT
I can't see him getting 75% approval The polls I've seen on Facebook paint a very different picture to the general scepticism on here. Facebook is the worst of our fanbase. This place is the most sensible would you believe.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on May 7, 2020 20:37:19 GMT
Voted no, he's a liar. Plain and simple Vote the devious prick out before he sells the lot He must be a rubbish businessman if he "sells the lot" after DONATING £1m to us! He is now a proven liar though, isn’t he.
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on May 7, 2020 20:37:41 GMT
Voted no, he's a liar. Plain and simple Vote the devious prick out before he sells the lot He must be a rubbish businessman if he "sells the lot" after DONATING £1m to us! Where has he spent £1m on Chester FC? Promised money towards wages, and taken ground and main stand sponsorships but has invoices outstanding against these. Trying to takeover a club that, like many others, is on its knees and trying to battle through a pandemic lockdown. Shown his true colours I'm afraid. Made promises that he has reneged on, then tries to pick up the club for more promises. He wants the land. He wants the lease. He is a businessman. The last 4 businessmen to own us fucked us. I guess 5th times a charm?
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Post by bing on May 7, 2020 20:42:23 GMT
He must be a rubbish businessman if he "sells the lot" after DONATING £1m to us! Where has he spent £1m on Chester FC? Promised money towards wages, and taken ground and main stand sponsorships but has invoices outstanding against these. Trying to takeover a club that, like many others, is on its knees and trying to battle through a pandemic lockdown. Shown his true colours I'm afraid. Made promises that he has reneged on, then tries to pick up the club for more promises. He wants the land. He wants the lease. He is a businessman. The last 4 businessmen to own us fucked us. I guess 5th times a charm? I'm guessing that the £1m is being drip-fed to the club. Be good to get clarification before everyone has a hissy-fit. Regardless of the amount, he's GIVEN the money to us. A VAST amount of money. Whether he is successful or not in his takeover, that alone should tell you that his motives aren't as sinister as some are suggesting. I imagine that the landscape has changed since he made his initial statements in The Chester Grosvenor - perhaps regarding the Sports Village / Covid. Let's see what he says before name calling shall we?
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Post by Oaks Blue on May 7, 2020 20:51:50 GMT
Where has he spent £1m on Chester FC? Promised money towards wages, and taken ground and main stand sponsorships but has invoices outstanding against these. Trying to takeover a club that, like many others, is on its knees and trying to battle through a pandemic lockdown. Shown his true colours I'm afraid. Made promises that he has reneged on, then tries to pick up the club for more promises. He wants the land. He wants the lease. He is a businessman. The last 4 businessmen to own us fucked us. I guess 5th times a charm? I'm guessing that the £1m is being drip-fed to the club. Be good to get clarification before everyone has a hissy-fit. Regardless of the amount, he's GIVEN the money to us. A VAST amount of money. Whether he is successful or not in his takeover, that alone should tell you that his motives aren't as sinister as some are suggesting. I imagine that the landscape has changed since he made his initial statements in The Chester Grosvenor - perhaps regarding the Sports Village / Covid. Let's see what he says before name calling shall we? How about leaving the guess work out of it and dealing with the facts when you know them. Or are you related to uncie stu? The bloke is a fraud and doesn't even support the club.
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Post by bing on May 7, 2020 20:57:00 GMT
I'm guessing that the £1m is being drip-fed to the club. Be good to get clarification before everyone has a hissy-fit. Regardless of the amount, he's GIVEN the money to us. A VAST amount of money. Whether he is successful or not in his takeover, that alone should tell you that his motives aren't as sinister as some are suggesting. I imagine that the landscape has changed since he made his initial statements in The Chester Grosvenor - perhaps regarding the Sports Village / Covid. Let's see what he says before name calling shall we? How about leaving the guess work out of it and dealing with the facts when you know them. Or are you related to uncie stu? The bloke is a fraud and doesn't even support the club. How old are you?! I'm merely suggesting that we wait and see what he says about it before acting like a 10 year old.
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Post by Imperial on May 7, 2020 20:59:03 GMT
I'm guessing that the £1m is being drip-fed to the club. Be good to get clarification before everyone has a hissy-fit. Regardless of the amount, he's GIVEN the money to us. A VAST amount of money. Whether he is successful or not in his takeover, that alone should tell you that his motives aren't as sinister as some are suggesting. I imagine that the landscape has changed since he made his initial statements in The Chester Grosvenor - perhaps regarding the Sports Village / Covid. Let's see what he says before name calling shall we? How about leaving the guess work out of it and dealing with the facts when you know them. Or are you related to uncie stu? The bloke is a fraud and doesn't even support the club. So he should stick to facts while you speculate? He may have been lying, he may have changed his mind. Let’s take a deep breath, see what he proposes & then make an informed decision. If you’ve made a decision already in either direction then it’s uninformed.
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Post by Oaks Blue on May 7, 2020 21:01:06 GMT
How about leaving the guess work out of it and dealing with the facts when you know them. Or are you related to uncie stu? The bloke is a fraud and doesn't even support the club. So he should stick to facts while you speculate? He may have been lying, he may have changed his mind. Let’s take a deep breath, see what he proposes & then make an informed decision. If you’ve made a decision already in either direction then it’s uninformed. The facts are, he's a liar. End of. But you carry on and see the club run into the ground and the land sold off to the highest bidder. AGAIN
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Post by Imperial on May 7, 2020 21:19:44 GMT
So he should stick to facts while you speculate? He may have been lying, he may have changed his mind. Let’s take a deep breath, see what he proposes & then make an informed decision. If you’ve made a decision already in either direction then it’s uninformed. The facts are, he's a liar. End of. But you carry on and see the club run into the ground and the land sold off to the highest bidder. AGAIN Do you know something I don’t? When has he lied as a matter of fact? If you’re referring to his previous statements about having no intention to own the club then he MAY have been lying or he MAY have changed his mind, either way there is no “end of” about it. Your posts seem extremely emotional, that’s understandable considering what we’ve been through as a group of fans but that doesn’t mean that there’s no value in listening to what he has to say.
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Post by Harry Lime on May 7, 2020 21:20:43 GMT
Where has he spent £1m on Chester FC? Promised money towards wages, and taken ground and main stand sponsorships but has invoices outstanding against these. Trying to takeover a club that, like many others, is on its knees and trying to battle through a pandemic lockdown. Shown his true colours I'm afraid. Made promises that he has reneged on, then tries to pick up the club for more promises. He wants the land. He wants the lease. He is a businessman. The last 4 businessmen to own us fucked us. I guess 5th times a charm? I'm guessing that the £1m is being drip-fed to the club. Be good to get clarification before everyone has a hissy-fit. Regardless of the amount, he's GIVEN the money to us. A VAST amount of money. Whether he is successful or not in his takeover, that alone should tell you that his motives aren't as sinister as some are suggesting. I imagine that the landscape has changed since he made his initial statements in The Chester Grosvenor - perhaps regarding the Sports Village / Covid. Let's see what he says before name calling shall we? The £1m was to be put towards his infrastructure plans for making us financially secure. My understanding is that we haven't actually seen it. Just the 'promise' of it. It was never given to us to use, as we saw best fit. That was nearly three years ago. Haven't a lot to show for it, have we? Something stinks here for me. Been feeling that for over a year now. This is an opportune moment to get the club. Little money. Uncertain future for football. He's either a Jack Walker type figure, or he's like the others. If he's a Jack Walker, why has it taken 3 years not to get the money? Why hasn't he paid his sponsorship monies to the club? At a time when he knows we are struggling.
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Post by martin on May 7, 2020 21:31:25 GMT
Should not your question be "should CFU give Chester FC to Stuart Murphy ? "
I don't think the vendors will be receiving any money
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Post by Oaks Blue on May 7, 2020 21:51:09 GMT
The facts are, he's a liar. End of. But you carry on and see the club run into the ground and the land sold off to the highest bidder. AGAIN Do you know something I don’t? When has he lied as a matter of fact? If you’re referring to his previous statements about having no intention to own the club then he MAY have been lying or he MAY have changed his mind, either way there is no “end of” about it. Your posts seem extremely emotional, that’s understandable considering what we’ve been through as a group of fans but that doesn’t mean that there’s no value in listening to what he has to say. He lied when when said he was a Chester fan. He lied when he said he didn't want control. I'll keep this post updated when the inevitable happens and it's too late... Wake up!
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Post by Imperial on May 7, 2020 23:09:02 GMT
Do you know something I don’t? When has he lied as a matter of fact? If you’re referring to his previous statements about having no intention to own the club then he MAY have been lying or he MAY have changed his mind, either way there is no “end of” about it. Your posts seem extremely emotional, that’s understandable considering what we’ve been through as a group of fans but that doesn’t mean that there’s no value in listening to what he has to say. He lied when when said he was a Chester fan. He lied when he said he didn't want control. I'll keep this post updated when the inevitable happens and it's too late... Wake up! He’s been sponsoring the club for several years, as I don’t think Exacta’s business would have boomed as a result of that sponsorship, I think to call himself a fan is pretty fair. It’s certainly not a lie. You’ve just ignored what I’ve already said on the other statement so I’ll say it again; you don’t know that’s a lie. When he said it he may well have had no intention of taking over the club. It may have been a lie but that is certainly not a fact or the end of the discussion. I’m not saying you’re wrong to be cautious, I’m saying you’re wrong to dismiss the idea out of hand without even hearing the proposal.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 23:14:52 GMT
I can't see him getting 75% approval The polls I've seen on Facebook paint a very different picture to the general scepticism on here. This decision is down to CFU members, the vast majority of Facebook Chester are not, part of the problem we've had is getting fans to sign up to the CFU, if they want a say on how our club is run they could sign up and become an owner of our club. The fact that we have a say in what happens in this situation is why we should never give up the fan owned model imho. People complain about not having the correct shirt selections to vote on, but here we are having a democratic say over the entire future direction of our club.
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Post by utb on May 7, 2020 23:20:40 GMT
He’d never get 75% approval so it’s a moot point. However we’ll not grow as a club and ever get back to the FL without investment and fans personally insulting any willing investors on a public forum isn’t a good look. If I was a multi millionaire wanting to invest in Chester and saw comments such as the above from Oaks Blue about me, I’d take my money elsewhere, regardless of whether I was a fan or not.
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Post by everhopeful on May 7, 2020 23:22:03 GMT
I can't see him getting 75% approval What's to stop him getting loads of his friends to join CFU and vote his way when the time comes? Should we not say "No new members until after the vote" to make sure we're not turned over by him (or anybody else at the present time) for that matter?
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Post by Lobster on May 7, 2020 23:50:20 GMT
The polls I've seen on Facebook paint a very different picture to the general scepticism on here. Facebook is the worst of our fanbase. This place is the most sensible would you believe. Interesting that if you look at the club's Facebook posts, many of the comments that are against the buyout (including mine) have been 'liked' by Chester FC. Read into that what you will.
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