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Post by sirfred on Apr 14, 2017 17:16:54 GMT
I have gone through all remaining fixtures and we may be saved by teams at the bottom playing each other i forcast finishing 19th and avoid the drop by 2 points - that is not a given though - It is essential we beat Woking to wrap it up - so with such a miserable season and the same players all being signed up again how does the Club really expect to shift season tickets - it's a real crises Bourne out of the crazy long term contract in Mccarthys hand and his demented mumblings
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Post by whopper1 on Apr 14, 2017 17:21:16 GMT
How on earth are we going to progress next season signing up the same old crap from this season?
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Post by Matt on Apr 14, 2017 17:23:22 GMT
Was gonna make a thread about a bit of calm due to the fact other teams below have to play each other. Torquay v Braintree and Woking v York as well as Guiseley vs Solihull Moors.
After his disaster our run people are gonna flap but we'll be ok.
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Post by sirfred on Apr 14, 2017 17:30:11 GMT
Torquay are gonners so forget them
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Post by sirfred on Apr 14, 2017 17:35:31 GMT
Woking will be very hard to beat especially as they will need the points and we never do well against them - Sutton away on plastic looks very tough (they beat Gateshead 3.0) and Boring Wood who knows can anyone see us gleaning anything from these games?
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Post by bethnalblue on Apr 14, 2017 17:36:25 GMT
Torquay are gonners so forget them Wouldnt be so sure. They have Braintree Town and North Ferriby Utd to play at home yet, Dover Athletic away will be tough though |
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Post by bonecrusher on Apr 14, 2017 17:38:15 GMT
Torquay are gonners so forget them Yes they couldn't even get a point off us. |
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Post by rossettboy1 on Apr 14, 2017 18:25:57 GMT
Torquay beating Braintree on Monday would be the ideal result for us.
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Post by PB on Apr 14, 2017 18:43:45 GMT
Ideal result would be for us to beat Woking then it doesn't matter what anyone else does.
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Post by Riot de Janiro on Apr 14, 2017 19:04:51 GMT
I'd say Torquay are dead, but theres about 5 points separating us between 4th relegation spot and safety. I'd like to think there is enough shite between us and that spot, but at this rate anything is possible. We're sinking like the Bismark.
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Post by sirfred on Apr 14, 2017 19:08:55 GMT
It's only 4 points not 5
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Post by Riot de Janiro on Apr 14, 2017 19:19:07 GMT
I'd say Torquay are dead, but theres about 5 points separating us between 4th relegation spot and safety. I'd like to think there is enough shite between us and that spot, but at this rate anything is possible. We're sinking like the Bismark.
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Post by Worried on Apr 14, 2017 19:22:01 GMT
To be sure we need 55 points. That's if every other result goes against us. (the bottom teams playing each other draw , which is worst case for us ).So we want 1 win or 3 draws . |
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Post by archwhopper on Apr 14, 2017 19:25:30 GMT
Ideal result would be for us to beat Woking then it doesn't matter what anyone else does. we wont beat woking in a month of sundays, were relying on other results to go our way or mcarthy pissing off or it will be exactly the same shite again next season, only in front of 1200 |
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Post by Coybs1967 on Apr 14, 2017 19:40:54 GMT
why on earth has that idiot got us down to the last 3 games and fighting for our lifes everything was going great up until sharps left then he brings his best mate in as assistant on a part time contract who only bothers to turn up when it suits him and it all goes pair shaped
we should not be in this position every chester fan knows when we play 4-4-2 football on the deck we are a decent team any other formation and hoofball tactics we are clueless
last week vs york we were absolutely dreadful from start to finish and rightly so booed off we pay money to watch that crap jon we are entitled to boo our team off the pitch
if things dont go his way on the pitch stuff the fans i wont go and applaud them go on clear off attitude at least with burr he came over applauded us even when it got to bad for him
fed up of watching this crap week in week out and him moaning about how we should get behind the team when they dont deserve my £18
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Post by billyw on Apr 14, 2017 20:13:30 GMT
We've gone from 4 points off a play off spot to 4 points off relegation. Everyone was saying in January that we needed a striker on loan but McCarthy said he was happy with the players he had. Well done Jon you've payed a blinder.
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Post by Ideal on Apr 14, 2017 21:15:41 GMT
I don't usually post on here , but always read the posts, we need to get real about our situation and where we stand as a club in this division, like our goat friends down the road, we are NOT a big fish in this league, and have no divine right to be one, we have one of the smallest budgets in the league and this will remain so for a few years down the line, we have no suger daddy to pump the money in and treat it like a plaything , (thank god ) or have we all got short memories ? Do you remember what Vaughan did to this club, the club are trying to get things sorted off the pitch as we'll as on it, we don't owe any money all bills/suppliers are paid on time, not like under the Vaughan era when he took our small business for 3k and many other small businesses as well, a lot of posts are calling for Jm's head , and let's get someone else in , Ronnie Moore , brabin , Carden , and others GEt REAl Will YOU! Ronnie Moore didn't do anything at Eastligh even with their budget , and I remember we beat them 3-0 at their place, carden was sacked at southport and Brabin at Trashmere. Not great is it , anyway if we got someone else in , wouldn't they want their own back room staff and their own players, where do you think the money is going to come from to fund this ? The only way we will get out of this division is when we have a sound base off the field and a bit of luck on the field, and maybe sneak into the playoffs, we are never going to steamroller this division like we did under Vaughan , look at the goats for Christ sake! Bigger crowds, bigger budget than us but 3 points ahead of us, 10 years they have been stuck in this league, we have been in it for 3 ,
I have followed /sponsored this club since 1973 and will continue to do so GET BEHIND YOUR TEAM AND HELP THEM OUT INSTEAD OF ALL THIS CRAP POSTED ON HERE
RANT OVER
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Post by tarvinblue on Apr 14, 2017 21:23:23 GMT
It would take a pretty severe turn of events to see us relegated from the position we are in. One more win should do it and even if we don't win another point we should stay up by the skin of our teeth due to the way the fixtures have fallen. It's a pathetic position to be in from where we were at the beginning of December.
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Post by dmcnally on Apr 14, 2017 21:37:59 GMT
I don't usually post on here , but always read the posts, we need to get real about our situation and where we stand as a club in this division, like our goat friends down the road, we are NOT a big fish in this league, and have no divine right to be one, we have one of the smallest budgets in the league and this will remain so for a few years down the line, we have no suger daddy to pump the money in and treat it like a plaything , (thank god ) or have we all got short memories ? Do you remember what Vaughan did to this club, the club are trying to get things sorted off the pitch as we'll as on it, we don't owe any money all bills/suppliers are paid on time, not like under the Vaughan era when he took our small business for 3k and many other small businesses as well, a lot of posts are calling for Jm's head , and let's get someone else in , Ronnie Moore , brabin , Carden , and others GEt REAl Will YOU! Ronnie Moore didn't do anything at Eastligh even with their budget , and I remember we beat them 3-0 at their place, carden was sacked at southport and Brabin at Trashmere. Not great is it , anyway if we got someone else in , wouldn't they want their own back room staff and their own players, where do you think the money is going to come from to fund this ? The only way we will get out of this division is when we have a sound base off the field and a bit of luck on the field, and maybe sneak into the playoffs, we are never going to steamroller this division like we did under Vaughan , look at the goats for Christ sake! Bigger crowds, bigger budget than us but 3 points ahead of us, 10 years they have been stuck in this league, we have been in it for 3 , I have followed /sponsored this club since 1973 and will continue to do so GET BEHIND YOUR TEAM AND HELP THEM OUT INSTEAD OF ALL THIS CRAP POSTED ON HERE RANT OVER Good man. True fan. |
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Post by Mr Reality on Apr 14, 2017 22:06:15 GMT
No one has ever been relegated from the Conference with 52 points from 46 games. I think there are enough teams below us playing each other in the last 3 games to make us safe. That's a reflection on where we are as a club, and given how competitive the Conference is, staying up is enough for me, as the reality is we can't compete budget-wise with the majority of clubs in this league as they nearly all have some sort of financial backer - and are Macclesfield still funded by the Iraqi businessman on their board?
Having witnessed the last 30 years of Chester City being owned by financial 'benefactors', I am more than happy to survive in the Conference knowing that I am an owner of the club, and can choose who is on the board, rather than sit there powerless watching things unravel like I have done in the past. No doubt I'm seen as some sort of deluded 'happy clapper' but essentially I don't care - in March 2010, as a direct result of the actions of people who were so called 'owners', I had no football club to watch, and was ready to turn my back on the game. Being fan led is the only future for the long term prospects of lower division/non-league football in this country, and the rampant inequality that is rife in the Conference is the reason we find ourselves in the lower reaches - that wouldn't change even if we had someone like Harry McNally or other great figures from our past as manager.
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Post by archwhopper on Apr 14, 2017 22:30:05 GMT
i might be wrong but i think we would of been relegated with 52 points if sailsbury hadn't gone bust
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Post by Rio Doherty on Apr 14, 2017 22:37:38 GMT
i might be wrong but i think we would of been relegated with 52 points if sailsbury hadn't gone bust 51. |
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Post by sirfred on Apr 14, 2017 22:40:12 GMT
True Fan because he is happy with his lot - so the rest of us including me who have supported Chester for 40 plus years who went foreally 2 years to macc in exile and have been home and away are not ? Because we criticase the current manager - oh dear
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Post by archwhopper on Apr 14, 2017 22:41:31 GMT
i was wrong then, you've won a goldfish, everyone should stop worrying now 52 points plenty, looking forward to next season already
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Post by Newted on Apr 14, 2017 22:50:48 GMT
I don't usually post on here , but always read the posts, we need to get real about our situation and where we stand as a club in this division, like our goat friends down the road, we are NOT a big fish in this league, and have no divine right to be one, we have one of the smallest budgets in the league and this will remain so for a few years down the line, we have no suger daddy to pump the money in and treat it like a plaything , (thank god ) or have we all got short memories ? Do you remember what Vaughan did to this club, the club are trying to get things sorted off the pitch as we'll as on it, we don't owe any money all bills/suppliers are paid on time, not like under the Vaughan era when he took our small business for 3k and many other small businesses as well, a lot of posts are calling for Jm's head , and let's get someone else in , Ronnie Moore , brabin , Carden , and others GEt REAl Will YOU! Ronnie Moore didn't do anything at Eastligh even with their budget , and I remember we beat them 3-0 at their place, carden was sacked at southport and Brabin at Trashmere. Not great is it , anyway if we got someone else in , wouldn't they want their own back room staff and their own players, where do you think the money is going to come from to fund this ? The only way we will get out of this division is when we have a sound base off the field and a bit of luck on the field, and maybe sneak into the playoffs, we are never going to steamroller this division like we did under Vaughan , look at the goats for Christ sake! Bigger crowds, bigger budget than us but 3 points ahead of us, 10 years they have been stuck in this league, we have been in it for 3 , I have followed /sponsored this club since 1973 and will continue to do so GET BEHIND YOUR TEAM AND HELP THEM OUT INSTEAD OF ALL THIS CRAP POSTED ON HERE RANT OVER NFBF... |
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Post by Blue Trev on Apr 14, 2017 22:58:57 GMT
No one has ever been relegated from the Conference with 52 points from 46 games. I think there are enough teams below us playing each other in the last 3 games to make us safe. That's a reflection on where we are as a club, and given how competitive the Conference is, staying up is enough for me, as the reality is we can't compete budget-wise with the majority of clubs in this league as they nearly all have some sort of financial backer - and are Macclesfield still funded by the Iraqi businessman on their board? Having witnessed the last 30 years of Chester City being owned by financial 'benefactors', I am more than happy to survive in the Conference knowing that I am an owner of the club, and can choose who is on the board, rather than sit there powerless watching things unravel like I have done in the past. No doubt I'm seen as some sort of deluded 'happy clapper' but essentially I don't care - in March 2010, as a direct result of the actions of people who were so called 'owners', I had no football club to watch, and was ready to turn my back on the game. Being fan led is the only future for the long term prospects of lower division/non-league football in this country, and the rampant inequality that is rife in the Conference is the reason we find ourselves in the lower reaches - that wouldn't change even if we had someone like Harry McNally or other great figures from our past as manager. There is always a first time for someone to go down with 52 points ! Avoiding relegation, whilst crucial, surely shouldn’t be our only objective or even trumpeting getting to 50 points, if we are to grow as a club. And even if you think that this enough, your view is not shared by a large a chunk of our fan base who have already voted with their feet, which of course only makes the financial position and future sustainability of a fan owned club even worse. We currently have a manager who is way out of his depth, with wholly unacceptable results and performances, yet he benefits from the very amateur boardroom decision to ridiculously extend his contact when it did. Other then the additional cost of getting rid of him, our current position has more to do with poor decision making and consistently underperforming personnel rather than the budget. Whilst I don’t pretend to have the answers I prefer a more positive outlook, which if energised once again , the Club under fan ownership has the potential to achieve much more than this ! |
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Post by Know All on Apr 15, 2017 8:08:39 GMT
i might be wrong but i think we would of been relegated with 52 points if sailsbury hadn't gone bust Yep you're wrong, it was 51 points we got and it was Hereford being expelled that let us back in (Salisbury going later saved Dartford). I think our goal difference is the big asset this time, it was poor back then. |
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Post by Johnnybling on Apr 15, 2017 8:30:02 GMT
Looking at the remaining fixtures with our goal difference the teams on 48 pts mathematically need 5pts from 3 games and us to lose them all to get relegated. Given guisley have to tranmere and York play FGR I know it's gonna go to the wire but we should be just safe by a point I'd say
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Post by Rio Doherty on Apr 15, 2017 8:34:47 GMT
Didn't Barnet get relegated from league two a few years ago with 55 points?
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Post by Chester fan on Apr 15, 2017 9:36:14 GMT
Looking at the remaining fixtures with our goal difference the teams on 48 pts mathematically need 5pts from 3 games and us to lose them all to get relegated. Given guisley have to tranmere and York play FGR I know it's gonna go to the wire but we should be just safe by a point I'd say Worse case scenario. We lose all our remaining games and the other teams win theirs except when they play each other. Their are 3 games when they play each other. Torquay v Braintree Torquay win. Torquay max 53 Braintree 54 Braintree win Torquay 50 Braintree 57 Draw. Torquay 5q Braintree 55 Woking v york Woking win Woking 57 york 54 York win. Woking 54 york 57 Draw. Woking 55 york 55 Guisley v sol moors Guisley win. Guisley 58 s.moors 54 S.moors win. Guisley 55 s.moors 57 Draw. Guisley 56 s.moors 55 This assumes they win all of the other games and we lose all of hours. |
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