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Post by boughtonblue on Apr 15, 2017 9:35:55 GMT
DC seems to be dominated by moaners, I know we have had a bad rum since Xmas but some of the vitriol aimed at JM and Maguire et al is way over the top.
JM has clearly bought into the community club model that is CFC, he works hard and is committed and deserves more respect from some of the keyboard warriors who are dominating this board.
In reality if JM stepped down who would come in and make a better fist of it
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Post by Can't be bothered to log in on Apr 15, 2017 9:41:15 GMT
DC seems to be dominated by moaners, I know we have had a bad rum since Xmas but some of the vitriol aimed at JM and Maguire et al is way over the top. JM has clearly bought into the community club model that is CFC, he works hard and is committed and deserves more respect from some of the keyboard warriors who are dominating this board. In reality if JM stepped down who would come in and make a better fist of it As long as he works hard and is committed that's OK then. I'd prefer it if he had some football management ability as well. But never mind you can't have everything. And it's not as if we're in a perilous position or anything. |
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Post by boughtonblue on Apr 15, 2017 9:52:06 GMT
DC seems to be dominated by moaners, I know we have had a bad rum since Xmas but some of the vitriol aimed at JM and Maguire et al is way over the top. JM has clearly bought into the community club model that is CFC, he works hard and is committed and deserves more respect from some of the keyboard warriors who are dominating this board. In reality if JM stepped down who would come in and make a better fist of it As long as he works hard and is committed that's OK then. I'd prefer it if he had some football management ability as well. But never mind you can't have everything. And it's not as if we're in a perilous position or anything. In order to go down, we need guiseley to get a win and a draw in their last three games and Braintree, York, Woking and Solihull to get five points from their last three games. It's not going to happen. Personally, I'd still support the team if they went down and don't believe that if we sacked JM things would improve. |
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Post by Blue Trev on Apr 15, 2017 10:10:46 GMT
DC seems to be dominated by moaners, I know we have had a bad rum since Xmas but some of the vitriol aimed at JM and Maguire et al is way over the top. JM has clearly bought into the community club model that is CFC, he works hard and is committed and deserves more respect from some of the keyboard warriors who are dominating this board. In reality if JM stepped down who would come in and make a better fist of it
whilst I can't say this is in anyway representative, I have regularly heard similar critical views about the team and McCarthy not being up to it for weeks around where I sit in C block. So far, these views have not been as stridently or volubly expressed as some of the more critical posts on here, despite MCCarthy's whinings. So don't kid yourself, and if we lose on Monday I suspect the mood will not be so forgiving for the appalling form over the last 4-5 months.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 10:23:41 GMT
DC seems to be dominated by moaners, I know we have had a bad rum since Xmas but some of the vitriol aimed at JM and Maguire et al is way over the top. JM has clearly bought into the community club model that is CFC, he works hard and is committed and deserves more respect from some of the keyboard warriors who are dominating this board. In reality if JM stepped down who would come in and make a better fist of it
whilst I can't say this is in anyway representative, I have regularly heard similar critical views about the team and McCarthy not being up to it for weeks around where I sit in C block. So far, these views have not been as stridently or volubly expressed as some of the more critical posts on here, despite MCCarthy's whinings. So don't kid yourself, and if we lose on Monday I suspect the mood will not be so forgiving for the appalling form over the last 4-5 months.
Similar murmurings in B Block which is why I fear the atmosphere on Monday could turn nasty quite easily |
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Post by Reality Check Blue on Apr 15, 2017 10:28:09 GMT
DC seems to be dominated by moaners, I know we have had a bad rum since Xmas but some of the vitriol aimed at JM and Maguire et al is way over the top. JM has clearly bought into the community club model that is CFC, he works hard and is committed and deserves more respect from some of the keyboard warriors who are dominating this board. In reality if JM stepped down who would come in and make a better fist of it With a 300k budget and at least 4 or 5 players out injured at any one time over the last five months you probably won't. The truly deluded on here think you will. |
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Post by Buckley Blue on Apr 15, 2017 10:41:13 GMT
I notice most of the old DC respected posters don't bother on here much if at all and I suspect they can't be arsed with not only the negativity but the way in which it is posted, childish name calling, demanding changes with absolutely no thought of how this can be achieved, etc. This site is now getting boring and depressing to read and ultimately will lead to the usual handful of moaners and guests posting and no new blood wanting to get involved.
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Post by border collie on Apr 15, 2017 10:46:43 GMT
I notice most of the old DC respected posters don't bother on here much if at all and I suspect they can't be arsed with not only the negativity but the way in which it is posted, childish name calling, demanding changes with absolutely no thought of how this can be achieved, etc. This site is now getting boring and depressing to read and ultimately will lead to the usual handful of moaners and guests posting and no new blood wanting to get involved. Thats a rather negative attitude ,are you Jon Mc Carthy ? |
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Post by Blue Trev on Apr 15, 2017 10:50:00 GMT
DC seems to be dominated by moaners, I know we have had a bad rum since Xmas but some of the vitriol aimed at JM and Maguire et al is way over the top. JM has clearly bought into the community club model that is CFC, he works hard and is committed and deserves more respect from some of the keyboard warriors who are dominating this board. In reality if JM stepped down who would come in and make a better fist of it With a 300k budget and at least 4 or 5 players out injured at any one time over the last five months you probably won't. The truly deluded on here think you will. So nobody at all could do a better job than Jon McCarthy ??. Putting his huge pay-off to one side, one or two potentially credible replacements have even been mentioned on here, who did miracles on similar budgets with far better track records, and perhaps would talk with at least some common sense in post match interviews ! Also perhaps they could use the budget more effectively and put together a squad which at least had adequate cover for right back and included four forward players and also not re-sign those who underperformed so badly under Burr, etc etc etc... |
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Post by Reality Check Blue on Apr 15, 2017 11:17:49 GMT
With a 300k budget and at least 4 or 5 players out injured at any one time over the last five months you probably won't. The truly deluded on here think you will. So nobody at all could do a better job than Jon McCarthy ??. Putting his huge pay-off to one side, one or two potentially credible replacements have even been mentioned on here, who did miracles on similar budgets with far better track records, and perhaps would talk with at least some common sense in post match interviews ! Also perhaps they could use the budget more effectively and put together a squad which at least had adequate cover for right back and included four forward players and also not re-sign those who underperformed so badly under Burr, etc etc etc... Typical of the rubbish on here. Vassell is first choice, Killock second, George third. Hughes has played there because they have all been out. |
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Post by Disgruntled on Apr 15, 2017 11:30:45 GMT
So nobody at all could do a better job than Jon McCarthy ??. Putting his huge pay-off to one side, one or two potentially credible replacements have even been mentioned on here, who did miracles on similar budgets with far better track records, and perhaps would talk with at least some common sense in post match interviews ! Also perhaps they could use the budget more effectively and put together a squad which at least had adequate cover for right back and included four forward players and also not re-sign those who underperformed so badly under Burr, etc etc etc... Typical of the rubbish on here. Vassell is first choice, Killock second, George third. Hughes has played there because they have all been out. Killock and George should never have been given contracts,both are a drain on the wage bill .so we have created that situation ourselves by poor recruiting |
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Post by Blue Trev on Apr 15, 2017 12:01:23 GMT
Typical of the rubbish on here. Vassell is first choice, Killock second, George third. Hughes has played there because they have all been out. Killock and George should never have been given contracts,both are a drain on the wage bill .so we have created that situation ourselves by poor recruiting I didn't really think I had to define the word "adequate". Really, is adequate cover provided by a slow, out of form, injury prone midfield player at Right back ? And also when I last looked, Killoch was a centre back, and although admittedly right footed, surely he was signed to play/or provide cover for Astles/Hughes in much the same way as Hudson ? But he was crocked from the very start after signing so we will never know. So no adequate cover, resulting in our best player used out of position and defence obviously weakened. Are you Jon McCarthy ? |
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Post by Blue4ever on Apr 15, 2017 12:05:52 GMT
DC seems to be dominated by moaners, I know we have had a bad rum since Xmas but some of the vitriol aimed at JM and Maguire et al is way over the top. JM has clearly bought into the community club model that is CFC, he works hard and is committed and deserves more respect from some of the keyboard warriors who are dominating this board. In reality if JM stepped down who would come in and make a better fist of it 2nd worst team for points tally over last 20 league games - any criticism is rightly directed to manager - any other team would of sacked long ago. JMs length of contract saving him and he knows it. |
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Post by boughtonblue on Apr 15, 2017 12:18:04 GMT
DC seems to be dominated by moaners, I know we have had a bad rum since Xmas but some of the vitriol aimed at JM and Maguire et al is way over the top. JM has clearly bought into the community club model that is CFC, he works hard and is committed and deserves more respect from some of the keyboard warriors who are dominating this board. In reality if JM stepped down who would come in and make a better fist of it 2nd worst team for points tally over last 20 league games - any criticism is rightly directed to manager - any other team would of sacked long ago. JMs length of contract saving him and he knows it. How have we done over the last 46 match's statto? |
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Post by Little Blue Boy on Apr 15, 2017 12:35:16 GMT
DC seems to be dominated by moaners, I know we have had a bad rum since Xmas but some of the vitriol aimed at JM and Maguire et al is way over the top. JM has clearly bought into the community club model that is CFC, he works hard and is committed and deserves more respect from some of the keyboard warriors who are dominating this board. In reality if JM stepped down who would come in and make a better fist of it Absolute nonsense. I'd buy into the community ethos, work hard and be committed, it doesn't mean I'm an appropriate manager of the club. I agree some people are being overly negative, but I fail to see how people can simply ignore the fact we have lost 14 of our last 18 games because we had a good spell earlier in the season. |
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Post by Buckley Blue on Apr 15, 2017 12:36:20 GMT
I notice most of the old DC respected posters don't bother on here much if at all and I suspect they can't be arsed with not only the negativity but the way in which it is posted, childish name calling, demanding changes with absolutely no thought of how this can be achieved, etc. This site is now getting boring and depressing to read and ultimately will lead to the usual handful of moaners and guests posting and no new blood wanting to get involved. Thats a rather negative attitude ,are you Jon Mc Carthy ? No, but I suspect you are 12 |
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Post by Reality Check Blue on Apr 15, 2017 12:48:57 GMT
Killock and George should never have been given contracts,both are a drain on the wage bill .so we have created that situation ourselves by poor recruiting I didn't really think I had to define the word "adequate". Really, is adequate cover provided by a slow, out of form, injury prone midfield player at Right back ? And also when I last looked, Killoch was a centre back, and although admittedly right footed, surely he was signed to play/or provide cover for Astles/Hughes in much the same way as Hudson ? But he was crocked from the very start after signing so we will never know. So no adequate cover, resulting in our best player used out of position and defence obviously weakened. Are you Jon McCarthy ? With your logic we would need a squad of 24 or 25 not including make weights and around another 100k in the budget. |
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Post by border collie on Apr 15, 2017 14:42:29 GMT
DC seems to be dominated by moaners, I know we have had a bad rum since Xmas but some of the vitriol aimed at JM and Maguire et al is way over the top. JM has clearly bought into the community club model that is CFC, he works hard and is committed and deserves more respect from some of the keyboard warriors who are dominating this board. In reality if JM stepped down who would come in and make a better fist of it What else can you expect when the team are losing almost every game without even scoring ? |
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Post by Fed up on Apr 15, 2017 14:44:16 GMT
DC seems to be dominated by moaners, I know we have had a bad rum since Xmas but some of the vitriol aimed at JM and Maguire et al is way over the top. JM has clearly bought into the community club model that is CFC, he works hard and is committed and deserves more respect from some of the keyboard warriors who are dominating this board. In reality if JM stepped down who would come in and make a better fist of it What else can you expect when the team are losing almost every game without even scoring ? And in many cases (though not all) not even trying! |
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Post by richard on Apr 15, 2017 15:00:54 GMT
DC seems to be dominated by moaners, I know we have had a bad rum since Xmas but some of the vitriol aimed at JM and Maguire et al is way over the top. JM has clearly bought into the community club model that is CFC, he works hard and is committed and deserves more respect from some of the keyboard warriors who are dominating this board. In reality if JM stepped down who would come in and make a better fist of it Yes, it's been an awful run and in such circumstances, it's inevitable that moans will be heard. I tend not to moan about the club on here, but everyone is entitled to their point of view. What I cannot countenance are the personal insults aimed at club employees, for which there can be no excuse whatsoever. That coupled with certain posters padding out a thread with multiple posts in a failed attempt to demonstrate their points by making us all read more insults, perhaps thinking that the number of times they remake the point, the more of us will be convinced they are right. This behaviour borders on trolling. Someone made the point that such behaviour will put others off posting on here and I think that is spot on. That is a shame as we will end up with something that resembles a forum that is little more than a moan fest. |
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Post by Blue Trev on Apr 15, 2017 15:07:01 GMT
I didn't really think I had to define the word "adequate". Really, is adequate cover provided by a slow, out of form, injury prone midfield player at Right back ? And also when I last looked, Killoch was a centre back, and although admittedly right footed, surely he was signed to play/or provide cover for Astles/Hughes in much the same way as Hudson ? But he was crocked from the very start after signing so we will never know. So no adequate cover, resulting in our best player used out of position and defence obviously weakened. Are you Jon McCarthy ? With your logic we would need a squad of 24 or 25 not including make weights and around another 100k in the budget.
No, we need a manager who can manage a limited budget effectively and recruit wisely. From the start he clearly had an unbalanced squad. Also Interesting that you prefer to dwell on the right back position - which has clearly caused us massive problems. Do you not think it folly that he said a squad with three strikers was ok ? With Akintundes early injury that left us with one striker and Kane Richards. Why did he re-sign George amongst others, which could have freed up some of the budget to address some of the gaps? I'm not understanding your logic.
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Post by boughtonblue on Apr 15, 2017 16:55:04 GMT
With your logic we would need a squad of 24 or 25 not including make weights and around another 100k in the budget.
No, we need a manager who can manage a limited budget effectively and recruit wisely. From the start he clearly had an unbalanced squad. Also Interesting that you prefer to dwell on the right back position - which has clearly caused us massive problems. Do you not think it folly that he said a squad with three strikers was ok ? With Akintundes early injury that left us with one striker and Kane Richards. Why did he re-sign George amongst others, which could have freed up some of the budget to address some of the gaps? I'm not understanding your logic.
Any names to put forward? We can all describe what a manager should be but who in reality? |
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Post by Reality Check Blue on Apr 15, 2017 17:05:50 GMT
With your logic we would need a squad of 24 or 25 not including make weights and around another 100k in the budget.
No, we need a manager who can manage a limited budget effectively and recruit wisely. From the start he clearly had an unbalanced squad. Also Interesting that you prefer to dwell on the right back position - which has clearly caused us massive problems. Do you not think it folly that he said a squad with three strikers was ok ? With Akintundes early injury that left us with one striker and Kane Richards. Why did he re-sign George amongst others, which could have freed up some of the budget to address some of the gaps? I'm not understanding your logic.
I think the squad was balanced at the start of the season. Where I would agree is that we should have brought in a decent striker on loan once Akintunde got crocked. That is easier said than done as Burr proved last season. I think the manager has effectively managed a small budget but I can not remember a worse season for injuries since we reformed. The five matches Hunt missed whist suspended made things difficult during key periods. The manager has made errors but we can not keep on hiring and firing so hopefully he learns from them. |
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Post by billyw on Apr 15, 2017 21:30:40 GMT
With your logic we would need a squad of 24 or 25 not including make weights and around another 100k in the budget.
No, we need a manager who can manage a limited budget effectively and recruit wisely. From the start he clearly had an unbalanced squad. Also Interesting that you prefer to dwell on the right back position - which has clearly caused us massive problems. Do you not think it folly that he said a squad with three strikers was ok ? With Akintundes early injury that left us with one striker and Kane Richards. Why did he re-sign George amongst others, which could have freed up some of the budget to address some of the gaps? I'm not understanding your logic.
Did he re-sign George - I thought he was on a 2 year contract but I could be wrong. I take your point about the strikers though. A blind man in a tunnel could see that a loan striker was urgently required but McCarthy always said he was happy with the squad he had - big mistake. What I don't understand is that in the last 2 or 3 seasons we have been able to get decent loan signings e.g. McBurnie, Taylor, Hughes, Oates etc and were able to sign Hannah who must have been on a decent wage so why is it that this season, we have not been able to bolster the threadbare squad? |
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Post by Fed up on Apr 15, 2017 21:34:31 GMT
No, we need a manager who can manage a limited budget effectively and recruit wisely. From the start he clearly had an unbalanced squad. Also Interesting that you prefer to dwell on the right back position - which has clearly caused us massive problems. Do you not think it folly that he said a squad with three strikers was ok ? With Akintundes early injury that left us with one striker and Kane Richards. Why did he re-sign George amongst others, which could have freed up some of the budget to address some of the gaps? I'm not understanding your logic.
Did he re-sign George - I thought he was on a 2 year contract but I could be wrong. I take your point about the strikers though. A blind man in a tunnel could see that a loan striker was urgently required but McCarthy always said he was happy with the squad he had - big mistake. What I don't understand is that in the last 2 or 3 seasons we have been able to get decent loan signings e.g. McBurnie, Taylor, Hughes, Oates etc and were able to sign Hannah who must have been on a decent wage so why is it that this season, we have not been able to bolster the threadbare squad? Because the deluded one doesn't think that there's a problem with the squad. |
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Post by Blue Trev on Apr 15, 2017 22:17:54 GMT
No, we need a manager who can manage a limited budget effectively and recruit wisely. From the start he clearly had an unbalanced squad. Also Interesting that you prefer to dwell on the right back position - which has clearly caused us massive problems. Do you not think it folly that he said a squad with three strikers was ok ? With Akintundes early injury that left us with one striker and Kane Richards. Why did he re-sign George amongst others, which could have freed up some of the budget to address some of the gaps? I'm not understanding your logic.
- I thought he was on a 2 year contract but I could be wrong. I take your point about the strikers though. A blind man in a tunnel could see that a loan striker was urgently required but McCarthy always said he was happy with the squad he had - big mistake. What I don't understand is that in the last 2 or 3 seasons we have been able to get decent loan signings e.g. McBurnie, Taylor, Hughes, Oates etc and were able to sign Hannah who must have been on a decent wage so why is it that this season, we have not been able to bolster the threadbare squad?
He sure did. New one year deal agreed May 2016 as "held in high regard" by Macca. Wonder if George will be offered another ?
www.chesterchronicle.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/chester-fc-luke-george-agrees-11349596
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