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Post by Bob on Oct 25, 2020 20:12:55 GMT
It seems Jonno has taken a break from Twitter. On a professional level would it be better for himself/management/the club if he didn't mention club business on there if he were to return to social media?
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Post by Oaks Blue on Oct 25, 2020 20:14:02 GMT
It seems Jonno has taken a break from Twitter. On a professional level would it be better for himself/management/the club if he didn't mention club business on there if he were to return to social media? 🤣 why don't you ask the board?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2020 21:02:15 GMT
It seems Jonno has taken a break from Twitter. On a professional level would it be better for himself/management/the club if he didn't mention club business on there if he were to return to social media? It’s like anything else in life, when he first opened up on there for any of us to speak to him about anything we all loved it. We loved that he engaged with us after a good or bad result. We loved him writing pro CFC stuff. But in this day and age people get bored really quickly and what made them popular to start with ends up being the thing people use to beat them with. I’ve said it loads, I think they’re terrific football club managers, they know how to create a club siege mentality and seem to get rejects from other clubs being stand out players in their team. Unfortunately though I think the Salford documentary painted a picture of them that some of us didn’t like and won’t let it go. They took over a broken football club and have given us a team we can enjoy watching, albeit with some appalling results. I honestly believe when they’re gone we’ll be back to the Burr/McCarthy/Bignot days with apathy all over the place. Just my opinion of course
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Post by cfc1885 on Oct 26, 2020 3:21:19 GMT
Probably can't be arsed with jumped up freaks calling for his head and giving him loads of abuse only for them to be up his arse next game when we win.
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Oct 26, 2020 10:52:59 GMT
Probably can't be arsed with jumped up freaks calling for his head and giving him loads of abuse only for them to be up his arse next game when we win. 100% this. His transparency and openness leaves him wide open to some of the barmpots who "support" Chester on twitter and beyond. Criticism is one thing, insulting people is another.
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Post by Si on Oct 26, 2020 11:49:20 GMT
Would be a real shame if he has come off it for good. As bullish as he comes across at times you also have to remember he is just a normal person and with some of the vile abuse he gets at times on that platform then I wouldn't blame him if he needed a break from it for the sake of his mental health - it can't be a nice read for him. You might say he invites the scrutiny as he can be quite outspoken, but there's a difference between someone asking him why we're only playing one up top and then others calling him every name under the sun and saying he should lose his job. His communication with our fanbase is a breath of fresh air and I for one enjoy reading his views on our club and seeing some the interactions between him and the players. He's also a very articulate bloke when it comes to wider football and society issues, which I suppose goes against the stereotype Sky tried to create on Class of 92.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 26, 2020 11:54:44 GMT
Would be a real shame if he has come off it for good. As bullish as he comes across at times you also have to remember he is just a normal person and with some of the vile abuse he gets at times on that platform then I wouldn't blame him if he needed a break from it for the sake of his mental health - it can't be a nice read for him. You might say he invites the scrutiny as he can be quite outspoken, but there's a difference between someone asking him why we're only playing one up top and then others calling him every name under the sun and saying he should lose his job. His communication with our fanbase is a breath of fresh air and I for one enjoy reading his views on our club and seeing some the interactions between him and the players. He's also a very articulate bloke when it comes to wider football and society issues, which I suppose goes against the stereotype Sky tried to create on Class of 92. Spot on that. I for one have had good healthy debates with him in relation to the youth graduates’ first team game time, tactics etc but it’s never escalated into abuse or insults. It’s the same reason I’ve come off FB and Twitter about two months ago, they are toxic platforms.
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Post by superhans on Oct 26, 2020 13:50:59 GMT
Don't think the managers should be using it as much as they do, IMO. Don't see many successful managers at this level or above using it in the way they do. The goading of Alty fans springs to mind. Just smacks of amateurism to me but I can understand that people enjoy being able to communicate with them so easily.
Looks great when you're winning but makes you an easy target when you're not. Really do like the managers but as we know their off the pitch profile doesn't always count in their favour.
I feel they both really take the criticism heavily, and to be honest there is rarely anything constructive said to them after defeats from our fans or others. Twitter can be a poisonous place for those that are there to be shot at, such as football managers, so I can understand why they'd want a break from it and as mentioned, I don't think it's needed anyway.
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Post by sirfred on Oct 27, 2020 7:23:05 GMT
Hang on 11 plus pages of abuse on here after Marine game but that's ok but on twitter all I see is criticism of the Managers tactics by playing 1 up front and that's abuse it's far more reasonable and accountable than this toxic mix
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Post by Royal Blue on Oct 27, 2020 9:42:37 GMT
It is a double edged sword using social media. On the one side I like the fact that we can engage with one of the managers and get to see the passion. On the other side I'm less keen of baiting other fans just for reactions. I especially dislike it when he tweets something from another poster which then results in a torrent of abuse at that person from Chester fans. It just looks so bad and comes across as bullying, giving the club and its fans a really poor image. I guess it is where do you draw the line with banter?
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 27, 2020 10:12:49 GMT
It is a double edged sword using social media. On the one side I like the fact that we can engage with one of the managers and get to see the passion. On the other side I'm less keen of baiting other fans just for reactions. I especially dislike it when he tweets something from another poster which then results in a torrent of abuse at that person from Chester fans. It just looks so bad and comes across as bullying, giving the club and its fans a really poor image. I guess it is where do you draw the line with banter? Noticed that too - can’t remember which club it was but their official account tweeted a tongue-in-cheek (and also factually correct) comment about crossing the border to play us and it was met with, as you say, torrents of abuse from some of our lot. Embarrassing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2020 10:18:08 GMT
It is a double edged sword using social media. On the one side I like the fact that we can engage with one of the managers and get to see the passion. On the other side I'm less keen of baiting other fans just for reactions. I especially dislike it when he tweets something from another poster which then results in a torrent of abuse at that person from Chester fans. It just looks so bad and comes across as bullying, giving the club and its fans a really poor image. I guess it is where do you draw the line with banter? Noticed that too - can’t remember which club it was but their official account tweeted a tongue-in-cheek (and also factually correct) comment about crossing the border to play us and it was met with, as you say, torrents of abuse from some of our lot. Embarrassing. For someone who apparently likes the managers, you seem to have a problem with quite a number of things they do. Discipline issues, whipping up hysteria on Twitter, not playing the youth team players, churning out poor performances. Anything else? I’d say that if you’re on twitter and have an issue with what they post then maybe tell them you don’t like it, explain to them you find what they’re posting distasteful and embarrassing.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 27, 2020 10:26:57 GMT
Noticed that too - can’t remember which club it was but their official account tweeted a tongue-in-cheek (and also factually correct) comment about crossing the border to play us and it was met with, as you say, torrents of abuse from some of our lot. Embarrassing. For someone who apparently likes the managers, you seem to have a problem with quite a number of things they do. Discipline issues, whipping up hysteria on Twitter, not playing the youth team players, churning out poor performances. Anything else? I’d say that if you’re on twitter and have an issue with what they post then maybe tell them you don’t like it, explain to them you find what they’re posting distasteful and embarrassing. I was referring to some of our supporters in the above post. The other things you mention such as team discipline and playing youth academy graduates are reasonable discussion points to have as a football supporter, are they not? I’m tired of any reasonable criticism being jumped on by a select few on here to make out those making those reasonable criticisms aren’t fans or must absolutely hate the managers etc. It’s wrong and it’s getting boring.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2020 10:34:36 GMT
For someone who apparently likes the managers, you seem to have a problem with quite a number of things they do. Discipline issues, whipping up hysteria on Twitter, not playing the youth team players, churning out poor performances. Anything else? I’d say that if you’re on twitter and have an issue with what they post then maybe tell them you don’t like it, explain to them you find what they’re posting distasteful and embarrassing. I was referring to some of our supporters in the above post. The other things you mention such as team discipline and playing youth academy graduates are reasonable discussion points to have as a football supporter, are they not? I’m tired of any reasonable criticism being jumped on by a select few on here to make out those making those reasonable criticisms aren’t fans or must absolutely hate the managers etc. It’s wrong and it’s getting boring. Reasonable criticism is when it’s balanced, we’ve done this to death and if you can’t see where some posters on here are coming from with regards to calling out the small but usual band of doom mongers then you’re just choosing to ignore it which is your prerogative. We may lose tonight, but if by some miracle we win we’ll be sat joint top of the league. I’m sure the doom mongers will be the first to tell us that weve only played 4 games which would be spot on but then the same has to apply when saying losing tonight puts the pressure on, that’s the balance.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Oct 27, 2020 10:39:26 GMT
For someone who apparently likes the managers, you seem to have a problem with quite a number of things they do. Discipline issues, whipping up hysteria on Twitter, not playing the youth team players, churning out poor performances. Anything else? I’d say that if you’re on twitter and have an issue with what they post then maybe tell them you don’t like it, explain to them you find what they’re posting distasteful and embarrassing. I was referring to some of our supporters in the above post. The other things you mention such as team discipline and playing youth academy graduates are reasonable discussion points to have as a football supporter, are they not? I’m tired of any reasonable criticism being jumped on by a select few on here to make out those making those reasonable criticisms aren’t fans or must absolutely hate the managers etc. It’s wrong and it’s getting boring. The trouble is Mancot, Nathan, Sychden, Frank, whatever you like to be called these days, is that your opinions and reputation for politics and wind ups precedes you, so its natural for people who are already irritated by you, to have something against you before you even post. I personally don't know how you solve that particular issue. But you must know that your previous online crusades aren't helping. Also, the fact that you are notorious for blowing hot and cold and contradicting yourself from day to day doesn't help either. How about a bit of balance and consistency going forward?
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Post by Lobster on Oct 27, 2020 19:23:42 GMT
Twitter has its uses but I don't know how anyone can spend more than 10 minutes on it without losing their mind. The big story on it today was somebody pretending Woolworths was coming back! It makes me think the time we live in is actually quite sad and boring.
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Post by bonecrusher on Oct 27, 2020 19:39:48 GMT
Twitter has its uses but I don't know how anyone can spend more than 10 minutes on it without losing their mind. The big story on it today was somebody pretending Woolworths was coming back! It makes me think the time we live in is actually quite sad and boring. That was a hoax as well!
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