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Post by Remember Colwyn Bay? on Apr 25, 2017 14:42:59 GMT
Thanks for reading Richard. Please read those three match reports before commenting in the manner you did.
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Post by muchwenlock on Apr 25, 2017 15:09:04 GMT
I think for me we now certainly need to look at a 49% / 51% ownership split. This would mean that potentially further investment could be made into the squad but the CFU would retain 51% of the profit. What it would also mean is that the CFU board could sit alongside an owner without having the chairman revolving door that we currently have. The 49% share owner would be the owner and chairman. I am all for the fan owned model but it is becoming very apparent that we aren't a big enough attraction fan wise to make this sustainable for us. There is also a point being raised about will the manager attract people to buy season tickets, on a serious note what manager would make you inspired to buy one. I buy one to support my club it very rarely has anything to do with any kind of incentive scheme or who we have signed / in the manager hot seat. Matt, Sorry to disagree. It wouldn't be long before MR 49% was to hold us to ransom for control on the back of a little success or even failure by threatening to pull out if we didn't give him control. Not for me I'm afraid. We have come too far to give it away to another speculative chancer Richard I get what your saying and always respect your viewpoint but can I ask what you would do to change the current situation? Unfortunately there's a lot of fans out there that are not as obviously as patient as yourself which can be seen in the declining attendances |
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Post by Krankie's Ghost on Apr 25, 2017 15:14:00 GMT
Fluke wins can be fluke losses - we battered Woking at home for example.
You made a decent point regards momentum and club feel RCB, however as much as the increase to £18 after reprieve damaged the club (in my view) quite a lot, you cannot call the Burr regime incompetent. He kept us up by finishing 4th bottom and then we had our highest finish and cup run under him. His last season was crazy i'll admit but you need to have some perspective.
But anyway, back to your good point, yes we seemed to have lost momentum and the hard work is in doing something to bring that 'feel good factor back' - there's a million threads on that already so i won't go on.
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Post by richard on Apr 25, 2017 15:14:16 GMT
Thanks for reading Richard. Please read those three match reports before commenting in the manner you did. Didn't mean to offend. It's just that for all your points to be taken seriously, they all need to be reasonable. To say that all three away wins were flukes must be taken in context with those games where we have played well and returned empty handed. Dagenham is one that springs to mind. Anyway, I did read all your post after you responded and there are things that we agree on. I wish we could find a way to bring fans back without risking our existence. Hope springs eternal. |
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Post by richard on Apr 25, 2017 15:29:40 GMT
Matt, Sorry to disagree. It wouldn't be long before MR 49% was to hold us to ransom for control on the back of a little success or even failure by threatening to pull out if we didn't give him control. Not for me I'm afraid. We have come too far to give it away to another speculative chancer Richard I get what your saying and always respect your viewpoint but can I ask what you would do to change the current situation? Unfortunately there's a lot of fans out there that are not as obviously as patient as yourself which can be seen in the declining attendances Muchwenlock, I wish I had the answers and to be frank, I feel the frustration too. I never thought I would say this, but after talking to fellow fans and friends, coupled with reading some of the excellent posts on this thread, I have come to the conclusion that we will have to change things to give people hope. It's an unenviable task for the new chair of the CFU as very careful consideration needs to be given to how we go about some sensible risk taking without putting what we have at risk. Whatever some may say, I'm not for risking the very foundations of our model on a potentially risky spending spree, but there has to be some middle ground here that at least offers to lift the gloom and rekindle the interest. |
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Post by Remember Colweyn Bay? on Apr 25, 2017 15:38:12 GMT
Great that the passion exists sufficiently to post some well intentioned thoughts. KG - were you twenty minutes late for the Woking match? Woking should have been at least two up by then.
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Post by sqzl on Apr 25, 2017 15:38:49 GMT
I think for me we now certainly need to look at a 49% / 51% ownership split. This would mean that potentially further investment could be made into the squad but the CFU would retain 51% of the profit. What it would also mean is that the CFU board could sit alongside an owner without having the chairman revolving door that we currently have. The 49% share owner would be the owner and chairman. I am all for the fan owned model but it is becoming very apparent that we aren't a big enough attraction fan wise to make this sustainable for us. There is also a point being raised about will the manager attract people to buy season tickets, on a serious note what manager would make you inspired to buy one. I buy one to support my club it very rarely has anything to do with any kind of incentive scheme or who we have signed / in the manager hot seat. Matt, Sorry to disagree. It wouldn't be long before MR 49% was to hold us to ransom for control on the back of a little success or even failure by threatening to pull out if we didn't give him control. Not for me I'm afraid. We have come too far to give it away to another speculative chancer I think the manager does impact ST sales, rightly or wrongly. Let's be honest if we somehow had Mourinho in charge we'd probably double our ST sales and then some. Thinking more realistically, we could go for someone like Bignott, proven conference record and knows what it takes to win games at this level. I know he's linked with Hartlepool, but they'll no doubt we joining us next season regardless. |
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Post by muchwenlock on Apr 25, 2017 16:35:54 GMT
Richard I get what your saying and always respect your viewpoint but can I ask what you would do to change the current situation? Unfortunately there's a lot of fans out there that are not as obviously as patient as yourself which can be seen in the declining attendances Muchwenlock, I wish I had the answers and to be frank, I feel the frustration too. I never thought I would say this, but after talking to fellow fans and friends, coupled with reading some of the excellent posts on this thread, I have come to the conclusion that we will have to change things to give people hope. It's an unenviable task for the new chair of the CFU as very careful consideration needs to be given to how we go about some sensible risk taking without putting what we have at risk. Whatever some may say, I'm not for risking the very foundations of our model on a potentially risky spending spree, but there has to be some middle ground here that at least offers to lift the gloom and rekindle the interest. I agree Richard it's going to be a tough and crucial decision for the board to make.But what could they do to rekindle that interest and give the fan base some hope .In days gone by a star signing would be made i.e. Daryl Clare well that isn't happening or maybe a season ticket offer that's too good to refuse .Or one I would love to see happen is the return of captain fantastic George Horan as assistant manager passion determination in bucket loads and I'm sure would knock a few heads together and would unite the fan base and but some fire back in the bellys of the fans !!! |
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Post by Arrogant Blue on Apr 25, 2017 17:08:46 GMT
I recall a statement along the lines of "Conference within 5 years and League within 10 Years." I bought into that and the score at Colwyn Bay didn't matter. The dream mattered and Neil Young inspired that dream. The players were Chester through and through and we all believed. Three years of that dream and we had 5000 versus Northwich. 100 goals and 100 points in a season! New heroes for old and new supporters alike. I've still got the T-shirt! Perhaps out of his depth, Neil Young eventually walked the plank, and then we hired a plank - Burr. A money spender and narcissist, who's biggest mistake was bringing in an old mate as first team coach. He cleared off Gary Jones quickly too,and upped his first team coach to be his new assistant. Welcome the birth of a true managerially incompetent regime. By then the board had changed sufficiently to perhaps lose sight of that dream, but they surgically cut out the problem, or so they thought. Sadly they left a bit and it took just over 8 months to grow back to the full level of incompetence. Bad luck can happen but it takes real hard work and commitment to be that bad for that long! I thought 0-3 at home to Solihull was like they had rolled over and died. Sadly they hadn't died. They have lived on to roll over time and time again during the whole of 2017. Hopefully three 0-1 flukes on our travels have saved us for this season. During the process, and with no external pressure whatsoever, some idiot(s) decided to offer a two and a half year contract, wholly unnecessarily, to ensure any subsequent failure could not be addressed without killing the dream. Maguire was there by then. Was it him? To hold onto our dream McCarthy cannot continue as he is. We need the money from Sam to continue our dream. We need to scrutinise Maguire's contract and hold him accountable to it. We cannot pay off McCarthy. If, as he has claimed, he buys into our dream then he will walk the plank also. If not, maybe we can encourage him to take up gardening! The problem has to be sorted, by hook or by crook as the saying goes. We got rid of the crook in 2010 so let's stick to the hook. Keep the dream alive and get the 3,500 dreamers back. They're waiting! They just need to be convinced the dream is still there. Sorry, but your arguments are destroyed by claiming that the 1-0 away wins were flukes. After reading that I just switched off. Fair play Richard your as deluded as our manager. He speaks a lot of sense. Suppose you don't care though as long as Macca and Stetson Steve shake your hand! |
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Post by richard on Apr 25, 2017 19:37:14 GMT
Sorry, but your arguments are destroyed by claiming that the 1-0 away wins were flukes. After reading that I just switched off. Fair play Richard your as deluded as our manager. He speaks a lot of sense. Suppose you don't care though as long as Macca and Stetson Steve shake your hand! Arrogant, Do you mean you're as deluded or perhaps you are as deluded? Otherwise your post makes no sense. No surprise there then  |
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Post by eyeswideopen on Apr 25, 2017 20:12:51 GMT
Two big turning points for me with our community ran club was the appointment of a CEO in a paid role who had no track record of success and before that was the whole sorry state of affairs over the appointment of Tony Allen, a man who not only cushioned up to Vaughan, but also showed he had no community involvement by Fronting the bid to buy the goats from underneath the fans noses, he was gifted a position without it ever being advertised. Off the field we have sunk in those two areas whilst good people like Jim green, Alan Povey etc have tried their best to recover a situation fast becoming unsavable.
There are good people at our great club, but the above two are not in that bracket, the quicker they go, the better.
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Post by Surprised on Apr 25, 2017 23:00:26 GMT
Two big turning points for me with our community ran club was the appointment of a CEO in a paid role who had no track record of success and before that was the whole sorry state of affairs over the appointment of Tony Allen, a man who not only cushioned up to Vaughan, but also showed he had no community involvement by Fronting the bid to buy the goats from underneath the fans noses, he was gifted a position without it ever being advertised. Off the field we have sunk in those two areas whilst good people like Jim green, Alan Povey etc have tried their best to recover a situation fast becoming unsavable. There are good people at our great club, but the above two are not in that bracket, the quicker they go, the better. Ain't that the truth. I'll probably get even more abuse for saying it, but I'm still convinced they've got an agenda. |
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Post by Newted on Apr 25, 2017 23:17:01 GMT
Not from me, there's something going on and I really don't understand why Allen above all is still there. It stinks and who the hell appointed him?
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Post by Cestrian For Life on Apr 26, 2017 5:46:37 GMT
GRENVILLE MILLINGTON appointed him. Not from me, there's something going on and I really don't understand why Allen above all is still there. It stinks and who the hell appointed him? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 5:53:39 GMT
GRENVILLE MILLINGTON appointed him. Not from me, there's something going on and I really don't understand why Allen above all is still there. It stinks and who the hell appointed him? I believe he wasn't on the interview panel. |
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Post by Cestrian For Life on Apr 26, 2017 6:03:37 GMT
Maybe not but he was the Chairman at the time so ultimately would have authorised the decision? I know no facts about the appointment but that was stated on the old Devachat.
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Post by YELLOW CARD on Apr 26, 2017 13:28:27 GMT
Just to correct "bluesince72" and others who are not aware, the Club is not a part time Club, the team and squad train during the day, hence we are classed as full time.
We were a part time Club ie the Players trained at night twice a week under Neil Young; as most of the Players had jobs during the day.
When Burr was appointed Manager he refused to train at night, and made the Club go full time, hence Players had to be paid accordingly to cover a good remuneration as it would be their main job; hence we at that point lost some good part time Players (ie had jobs during the day).
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Post by bluesince72 on Apr 26, 2017 17:38:32 GMT
Just to correct "bluesince72" and others who are not aware, the Club is not a part time Club, the team and squad train during the day, hence we are classed as full time. We were a part time Club ie the Players trained at night twice a week under Neil Young; as most of the Players had jobs during the day. When Burr was appointed Manager he refused to train at night, and made the Club go full time, hence Players had to be paid accordingly to cover a good remuneration as it would be their main job; hence we at that point lost some good part time Players (ie had jobs during the day). CFC ARE a part time club, the players are only paid 44 weeks during the season yes they do train during daytime but only 3 days a week. To be full time players have to be paid the full 52 weeks and train 5 days. Truth is, and the board need to wake up to this, that we have hit the buffers with our present pt set up, we face struggle and eventual relegation, whoever is manager,unless we change. That means going full time as fan owned or selling to an owner. I prefer the formet, we must give it a go before selling out. Relegation would be terminal to all our dreams and ambition, NLN is not the league we won at a canter, its has a number of bankrolled clubs as well as some other well supported clubs. We can't expect people to buy season tickets for next season with the prospectus of at best mid table but probable struggle. Talking ourselves down, with what approaches self pity. Small part time limited budgets etc. We have to do what all other small full time clubs do and survive by developing our own players and being a selling club Starting with Hughes during the summer. We are told the board are ambitious for the clud well PROVE IT! |
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Post by RCB on Apr 26, 2017 18:21:56 GMT
Thanks for bringing that up YC. To get this correct, I seem to recall Burr did not originally apply for the vacancy, but somehow managed to be appointed anyway. He then prevented many top quality players from being considered for Chester by insisting that training, albeit only part-time, took place during the day. Was this to get rid of Danby in order to bring in his beloved Worsnop?
So we ended up paying part-time wages, training part-time, and therefore unable to bring in quality full-time players, or indeed any quality part-time players due to the daytime training schedule. No more plasterers for Chester then!
Essentially we have been living off scraps, or kids, for the past three years and absolutely no progress in our dream has taken place. We need more money to take the step to proper full time, using limited funds and sell on fees effectively and efficiently, and not wasting it on paying off the likes of McCarthy, or indeed hiring excess players never likely to make the grade. The only experience we seem to have brought it is Maguire, and what a gem he has turned out to be!
The falling attendances are the consequence of poor performances, bizarre team formations and selections, and stagnation, or so it seems. Having watched Chester since 1962, I have questioned why I bother all season, but unlike the others who deserted, it is 55 years of loyalty that stops me going with my brain instead of my heart. Personally, I have never considered a 120 mile round trip or £18 as a reason not to come. Loss of the dream, inefficient money wasting approved by the Board, and a manager in total denial of the bleedin' obvious regularly question my wisdom.
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Post by Diva on Apr 26, 2017 18:37:19 GMT
I think you will find the majority of teams in the National league only pay 44 weeks obviously apart from the real big hitters. If we only give out 1 year deals and in the main are still signing players right up to the first game of the season in August, why would we want to pay someone until June 30th when the season finishes at the end of April for them to leave and join another club
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Post by gomango on Apr 26, 2017 18:58:23 GMT
As looks likely, JM is staying then our priority is to use some of the Hughes money to get a Director of Football in. Needs to be someone with good contacts who can entice some half decent talent to the club (seriously doubt that JM has the ability to sell the club to anyone, especially himself). Get rid of CI and bring in a player/coach. (Not Tom Shaw he hasn't made much/any difference when covering for CI). Finally get serious about which players we keep, this squad has now struggled for the last two seasons hardly any have grown so we need to accept they are not good enough for us or this league.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Apr 26, 2017 19:15:12 GMT
Another comment supporting, the idea of a Director of Football, just make sure some 'dick', doesn't call it a ridiculous idea and claim you are a mate of McCarthy. lol
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Post by Blue Skies on Apr 26, 2017 20:06:37 GMT
Richard I get what your saying and always respect your viewpoint but can I ask what you would do to change the current situation? Unfortunately there's a lot of fans out there that are not as obviously as patient as yourself which can be seen in the declining attendances Muchwenlock, I wish I had the answers and to be frank, I feel the frustration too. I never thought I would say this, but after talking to fellow fans and friends, coupled with reading some of the excellent posts on this thread, I have come to the conclusion that we will have to change things to give people hope. It's an unenviable task for the new chair of the CFU as very careful consideration needs to be given to how we go about some sensible risk taking without putting what we have at risk. Whatever some may say, I'm not for risking the very foundations of our model on a potentially risky spending spree, but there has to be some middle ground here that at least offers to lift the gloom and rekindle the interest. I regard you as a fully committed supporter of fan ownership Richard, so what kind of changes are you referring to ? |
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Post by richard on Apr 26, 2017 20:39:35 GMT
Muchwenlock, I wish I had the answers and to be frank, I feel the frustration too. I never thought I would say this, but after talking to fellow fans and friends, coupled with reading some of the excellent posts on this thread, I have come to the conclusion that we will have to change things to give people hope. It's an unenviable task for the new chair of the CFU as very careful consideration needs to be given to how we go about some sensible risk taking without putting what we have at risk. Whatever some may say, I'm not for risking the very foundations of our model on a potentially risky spending spree, but there has to be some middle ground here that at least offers to lift the gloom and rekindle the interest. I regard you as a fully committed supporter of fan ownership Richard, so what kind of changes are you referring to ? I am totally committed to fan ownership. The scars run deep with me regarding the history of the demise of CCFC. So, to be clear, I'm not talking about investment or diluting our ownership in any way. This thread has asked some relevant questions regarding how we regenerate the interest and enthusiasm of the fans. I was merely suggesting that some degree of affordable ambition might fit the bill. |
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Post by Blue Skies on Apr 26, 2017 20:50:12 GMT
I regard you as a fully committed supporter of fan ownership Richard, so what kind of changes are you referring to ? I am totally committed to fan ownership. The scars run deep with me regarding the history of the demise of CCFC. So, to be clear, I'm not talking about investment or diluting our ownership in any way. This thread has asked some relevant questions regarding how we regenerate the interest and enthusiasm of the fans. I was merely suggesting that some degree of affordable ambition might fit the bill. Thanks for the clarification Richard.
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Post by Pauline M on Apr 27, 2017 0:41:32 GMT
A very thought provoking thread. I can see that many fans are worried and if I am honest I am worried too although I think it is far too early to throw in the towel on what we are building up. However, we will need to address some key issues over the summer and I don't include the manager although may be the assistant manager's position does need some thought. I don't think the half and half has worked that well and it would be nice to see a bit more love for Chester FC on Twitter too.
The current situation apart, what does concern me is the strain being put on our pool of very dedicated volunteers who are giving their all to keep this club going. What happened to all those stalwart fans who were instrumental in getting the club reformed, took leading roles in running the club and on the Board but have now become ghosts of Chester FC? Where are they now? Do they still care? I hardly see any of them at matches home or away. Do they still read DevaChat 1 and now 2? I know some of them gave up because of job/personal reasons but quite a number failed to see their full term of office out and I don't think it was all because of fans abuse as some left when things were a lot more rosy than it is today. I feel quite sad that those fans who were so passionate about Chester FC are not even seen buying a pint in the Blues Bar these days. Their collective knowledge disappeared in a puff of smoke and it seems such a shame that their experience is not being put to good use, even only in an advisory capacity to those who have found themselves thrust on to the Board with little or no experience of running a club.
However, to end on a positive note being a half full person, just one good Cup run and our club could change dramtically overnight. Nobody on this thread has even factored that in. We have not control of that I know but while we feel our club is struggling at the moment, the reality is about 80 percent of other football fans feel exactly the same about their own clubs, we just feel worse because we feel like we have an apology of a football club because we are doing it the hard way with no guarantee we can succeed.
It's not easy and there is no magical solution but having got this far we mustn't give up. We need to have that dream but we may have to do a bit of regrouping over the coming months to make that dream come true.
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Post by Mike V on Apr 27, 2017 10:15:03 GMT
A very thought provoking thread. I can see that many fans are worried and if I am honest I am worried too although I think it is far too early to throw in the towel on what we are building up. However, we will need to address some key issues over the summer and I don't include the manager although may be the assistant manager's position does need some thought. I don't think the half and half has worked that well and it would be nice to see a bit more love for Chester FC on Twitter too. The current situation apart, what does concern me is the strain being put on our pool of very dedicated volunteers who are giving their all to keep this club going. What happened to all those stalwart fans who were instrumental in getting the club reformed, took leading roles in running the club and on the Board but have now become ghosts of Chester FC? Where are they now? Do they still care? I hardly see any of them at matches home or away. Do they still read DevaChat 1 and now 2? I know some of them gave up because of job/personal reasons but quite a number failed to see their full term of office out and I don't think it was all because of fans abuse as some left when things were a lot more rosy than it is today. I feel quite sad that those fans who were so passionate about Chester FC are not even seen buying a pint in the Blues Bar these days. Their collective knowledge disappeared in a puff of smoke and it seems such a shame that their experience is not being put to good use, even only in an advisory capacity to those who have found themselves thrust on to the Board with little or no experience of running a club. However, to end on a positive note being a half full person, just one good Cup run and our club could change dramtically overnight. Nobody on this thread has even factored that in. We have not control of that I know but while we feel our club is struggling at the moment, the reality is about 80 percent of other football fans feel exactly the same about their own clubs, we just feel worse because we feel like we have an apology of a football club because we are doing it the hard way with no guarantee we can succeed. It's not easy and there is no magical solution but having got this far we mustn't give up. We need to have that dream but we may have to do a bit of regrouping over the coming months to make that dream come true. Hi Pauline
Just to answer part of you question in terms of the original Board, Jim Green, David Evans and myself are all involved with the CFC Community Trust and we still care very much ! Mark ( NWAS ) posts on here and I am sure he is still passionate about CFC. Campbell Smith sits near me in D block and Jeff Banks is as big a Chester fan as his young family allows. If anyone wants the benefit of our experience I am sure we would all be happy to give it but we may have all drawn different conclusions from the past 
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Post by Disgruntled on Apr 27, 2017 10:24:06 GMT
A very thought provoking thread. I can see that many fans are worried and if I am honest I am worried too although I think it is far too early to throw in the towel on what we are building up. However, we will need to address some key issues over the summer and I don't include the manager although may be the assistant manager's position does need some thought. I don't think the half and half has worked that well and it would be nice to see a bit more love for Chester FC on Twitter too. The current situation apart, what does concern me is the strain being put on our pool of very dedicated volunteers who are giving their all to keep this club going. What happened to all those stalwart fans who were instrumental in getting the club reformed, took leading roles in running the club and on the Board but have now become ghosts of Chester FC? Where are they now? Do they still care? I hardly see any of them at matches home or away. Do they still read DevaChat 1 and now 2? I know some of them gave up because of job/personal reasons but quite a number failed to see their full term of office out and I don't think it was all because of fans abuse as some left when things were a lot more rosy than it is today. I feel quite sad that those fans who were so passionate about Chester FC are not even seen buying a pint in the Blues Bar these days. Their collective knowledge disappeared in a puff of smoke and it seems such a shame that their experience is not being put to good use, even only in an advisory capacity to those who have found themselves thrust on to the Board with little or no experience of running a club. However, to end on a positive note being a half full person, just one good Cup run and our club could change dramtically overnight. Nobody on this thread has even factored that in. We have not control of that I know but while we feel our club is struggling at the moment, the reality is about 80 percent of other football fans feel exactly the same about their own clubs, we just feel worse because we feel like we have an apology of a football club because we are doing it the hard way with no guarantee we can succeed. It's not easy and there is no magical solution but having got this far we mustn't give up. We need to have that dream but we may have to do a bit of regrouping over the coming months to make that dream come true. We have zero chance of having a good cup run until the attitude of the management and players changes from cant do to can do |
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Post by bluboy79 on Apr 27, 2017 10:52:07 GMT
Unfortunately if we retain JM as manager we will have the majority of this crap squad and in my opinion will be nailed on for the drop !
Club must show ambition by sacking him before we end up with the likes of George, Richards and Chappell next season. We are at a major crossroads in our journey and if we have another bad season then I fear for the clubs future. Who realistically wants to watch us playing teams like Brackley and Tamworth again !
This is a make or break season in my eyes - we need a manager who can motivate and who can sign us big strong players who will give everything for the fans !
Fans will get behind the team if they are giving their all, these type of players are out there if we scouted properly.
We cant trust JM to make signings as he is clueless, players like Marsh, O'Brien, Joyce and Killock prove this (Killock has the ability but has been injured for nearly 3 years on and off!).
JM has no charisma and energy for me, he cant motivate and seems happy to accept defeat !
I am sure we would get many applicantants if we advertised the job as we are still a big club to manage at this level !
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Post by tarvinblue on Apr 27, 2017 11:14:27 GMT
A very thought provoking thread. I can see that many fans are worried and if I am honest I am worried too although I think it is far too early to throw in the towel on what we are building up. However, we will need to address some key issues over the summer and I don't include the manager although may be the assistant manager's position does need some thought. I don't think the half and half has worked that well and it would be nice to see a bit more love for Chester FC on Twitter too. The current situation apart, what does concern me is the strain being put on our pool of very dedicated volunteers who are giving their all to keep this club going. What happened to all those stalwart fans who were instrumental in getting the club reformed, took leading roles in running the club and on the Board but have now become ghosts of Chester FC? Where are they now? Do they still care? I hardly see any of them at matches home or away. Do they still read DevaChat 1 and now 2? I know some of them gave up because of job/personal reasons but quite a number failed to see their full term of office out and I don't think it was all because of fans abuse as some left when things were a lot more rosy than it is today. I feel quite sad that those fans who were so passionate about Chester FC are not even seen buying a pint in the Blues Bar these days. Their collective knowledge disappeared in a puff of smoke and it seems such a shame that their experience is not being put to good use, even only in an advisory capacity to those who have found themselves thrust on to the Board with little or no experience of running a club. However, to end on a positive note being a half full person, just one good Cup run and our club could change dramtically overnight. Nobody on this thread has even factored that in. We have not control of that I know but while we feel our club is struggling at the moment, the reality is about 80 percent of other football fans feel exactly the same about their own clubs, we just feel worse because we feel like we have an apology of a football club because we are doing it the hard way with no guarantee we can succeed. It's not easy and there is no magical solution but having got this far we mustn't give up. We need to have that dream but we may have to do a bit of regrouping over the coming months to make that dream come true. It's like Bob Gray re-incarnated. 'One good cup run and all of problems are solved' |
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