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Post by Rio Doherty on Apr 24, 2017 14:30:20 GMT
A few weeks ago Tom Shaw and Johnny Hunt said they were very close to signing a contract. I've heard rumours that Hunt might be off to Wrexham but what is happening??
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Post by richard on Apr 24, 2017 15:38:49 GMT
Has Macca lost the support of the majority of the fan base? Granted he's lost the support of the majority of people who can be arsed typing on a forum (that's about 20 then and not all of them go to the matches) and anecdotally their mates and all the people who sit round them (another 100 say). I sort of suspect not. There'll be a lot of people not overly happy with the way things have gone but to be baying for his head, not sure. I suppose we'll find out next Saturday. Good, sensible post |
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Post by Im a rock n roll star on Apr 24, 2017 15:57:00 GMT
Has Macca lost the support of the majority of the fan base? Granted he's lost the support of the majority of people who can be arsed typing on a forum (that's about 20 then and not all of them go to the matches) and anecdotally their mates and all the people who sit round them (another 100 say). I sort of suspect not. There'll be a lot of people not overly happy with the way things have gone but to be baying for his head, not sure. I suppose we'll find out next Saturday. Good, sensible post Will probably our lowest home league gate for the last home game of the season since we reformed. Despite the £10 tickets, that should give The Board the answers they need to know and the action they need to take. |
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Post by Frudtrated on Apr 27, 2017 21:34:10 GMT
Will probably our lowest home league gate for the last home game of the season since we reformed. Despite the £10 tickets, that should give The Board the answers they need to know and the action they need to take. correct, the apathy and resistance to this extremely poor manager is growing like topsy. Saturdays attendance and the the apathetic response, and subsequent financial loss, to this seasons awards night will highlight the ridiculous and irresponsible attitude taken by this impotent and limp wristed board of directors who haven't faced the current malaise . They individually must be taken to task for their inertia. |
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Post by very concerned on Apr 28, 2017 5:41:01 GMT
Will probably our lowest home league gate for the last home game of the season since we reformed. Despite the £10 tickets, that should give The Board the answers they need to know and the action they need to take. correct, the apathy and resistance to this extremely poor manager is growing like topsy. Saturdays attendance and the the apathetic response, and subsequent financial loss, to this seasons awards night will highlight the ridiculous and irresponsible attitude taken by this impotent and limp wristed board of directors who haven't faced the current malaise . They individually must be taken to task for their inertia. He , Macarthy , cannot below allowed to select the players for next season, and then put us in a position where he has to be sacked about december time. He has been with us now 3 years as either assistant manager or manager, and in the time has achieved nothing, apart from last season when he and Burr together left us in a dog fight again to avoid relegation, which we managed to avoid again . He is not management material, also he continually has a dig at supporters in his strange interviews, which get worse by the day ! Irrespective of what happens tomorrow he has to be shown the door. I do not understand how the happy clappers are expecting him to suddenly become a manager next season, weird ! He thinks his strange ideas are the way to go, statistics etc etc, and he will not change, so next season will be just the same as this or possibly worse. Below is a copy of a comment taken from another post on here, basically , how to get rid of him !! You put him on gardening leave, which means we carry on paying him, but he does not go to work, untill he takes another job and resigns !!
www.gov.uk/handing-in-your-notice/gardening-leave
I used this a couple of times with troublesome or useless employess, it is a very common practice !
Yes that is correct, but he would have to be dismissed on the grounds that he can not do his job to the standard required, then he would be given gardening leave .
The club would never have to pay him for the remainder of his contract using the laid down procedure !
www.gov.uk/dismiss-staff/dismissals-on-capability-or-conduct-grounds |
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Post by is the bend even? on Apr 28, 2017 7:37:37 GMT
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Post by Frustrated on Apr 28, 2017 7:52:53 GMT
Whatever happened to Alan Povey I wonder, who is quite vocal in the link you post ??. |
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Post by sqzl on Apr 28, 2017 7:53:12 GMT
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. I do think JM was a fair choice given how well he started the season, at that time we didn't expect the negative 'safety is the goal' attitude that IMO has been filtered down into the players. It is too easy for a manager to say our goal is to stay up. Surely we want to improve year upon year, for me this year is now a backwards step. The football hasn't been good, attendances are falling and we are posting a year end loss as things stand. Something needs to change regardless of what it is. |
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Post by billyw on Apr 28, 2017 12:42:01 GMT
I dont subscribe to this '50 point safety target'. Believe me, McCarthy wanted more than that and was talking about wanting 60 points only a few weeks ago. The 50 point target is just a cop out.
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Post by bing on Apr 28, 2017 12:50:33 GMT
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. I do think JM was a fair choice given how well he started the season, at that time we didn't expect the negative 'safety is the goal' attitude that IMO has been filtered down into the players. It is too easy for a manager to say our goal is to stay up. Surely we want to improve year upon year, for me this year is now a backwards step. The football hasn't been good, attendances are falling and we are posting a year end loss as things stand. Something needs to change regardless of what it is. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but it does show how fans felt at that precise moment in time, so it seems churlish then for some to question Mark Maguire's role in offering him the contract. |
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Post by sqzl on Apr 28, 2017 13:47:54 GMT
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. I do think JM was a fair choice given how well he started the season, at that time we didn't expect the negative 'safety is the goal' attitude that IMO has been filtered down into the players. It is too easy for a manager to say our goal is to stay up. Surely we want to improve year upon year, for me this year is now a backwards step. The football hasn't been good, attendances are falling and we are posting a year end loss as things stand. Something needs to change regardless of what it is. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but it does show how fans felt at that precise moment in time, so it seems churlish then for some to question Mark Maguire's role in offering him the contract. True but wouldn't necessarily agree entirely. We are supporters and we make emotional based responses and choices around the club. At the time, we we're on a brilliant run and we're looking like genuine playoff contenders, most CFC fans dream really. So to hear about an extended deal would be brilliant news to most, had that form continued. Mark Maguire is a totally different matter...he is employed to make business decisions, not emotional ones. At the end of the day if an employee is doing his job correctly he may well be rewarded, as JM was at the time. The key thing in business is not to let emotion play any part on your decisions, which is what separates us fans from the employees of CFC. I feel in a high profile role, perhaps more consideration would have been sensible, maybe even leaving it until the end of the season. Would his contract have been renewed now? Not so sure. Like you/I say, hindsight is a wonderful thing for us fans, but in business, the best decision has to be made at that time, even a one year extension could have been more realistic, given we can't afford to sign players many on 2 year deals... |
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Post by bing on Apr 28, 2017 15:24:06 GMT
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but it does show how fans felt at that precise moment in time, so it seems churlish then for some to question Mark Maguire's role in offering him the contract. True but wouldn't necessarily agree entirely. We are supporters and we make emotional based responses and choices around the club. At the time, we we're on a brilliant run and we're looking like genuine playoff contenders, most CFC fans dream really. So to hear about an extended deal would be brilliant news to most, had that form continued. Mark Maguire is a totally different matter...he is employed to make business decisions, not emotional ones. At the end of the day if an employee is doing his job correctly he may well be rewarded, as JM was at the time. The key thing in business is not to let emotion play any part on your decisions, which is what separates us fans from the employees of CFC. I feel in a high profile role, perhaps more consideration would have been sensible, maybe even leaving it until the end of the season. Would his contract have been renewed now? Not so sure. Like you/I say, hindsight is a wonderful thing for us fans, but in business, the best decision has to be made at that time, even a one year extension could have been more realistic, given we can't afford to sign players many on 2 year deals... It's a fair point to make that distinction. I'm sure I remember around the time that Jon McCarthy's name was being bandied around as one of the up-and-coming managers likely to carry on the Graham Taylor legacy, so I'm guessing the length of the contract was to ward away any other clubs from making an approach. |
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Post by worried on Apr 29, 2017 4:39:23 GMT
True but wouldn't necessarily agree entirely. We are supporters and we make emotional based responses and choices around the club. At the time, we we're on a brilliant run and we're looking like genuine playoff contenders, most CFC fans dream really. So to hear about an extended deal would be brilliant news to most, had that form continued. Mark Maguire is a totally different matter...he is employed to make business decisions, not emotional ones. At the end of the day if an employee is doing his job correctly he may well be rewarded, as JM was at the time. The key thing in business is not to let emotion play any part on your decisions, which is what separates us fans from the employees of CFC. I feel in a high profile role, perhaps more consideration would have been sensible, maybe even leaving it until the end of the season. Would his contract have been renewed now? Not so sure. Like you/I say, hindsight is a wonderful thing for us fans, but in business, the best decision has to be made at that time, even a one year extension could have been more realistic, given we can't afford to sign players many on 2 year deals... It's a fair point to make that distinction. I'm sure I remember around the time that Jon McCarthy's name was being bandied around as one of the up-and-coming managers likely to carry on the Graham Taylor legacy, so I'm guessing the length of the contract was to ward away any other clubs from making an approach. What a load of rubbish, just because our brilliant manager had managed a run of 8 games undefeated, clubs were queing up for him !! What a joke !!!!!!!!!!! Someone cocked up by giving him another 2 years, bloody idiots ! |
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