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Post by Lobster on Dec 21, 2021 6:47:56 GMT
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Post by Moltisanti on Dec 21, 2021 7:03:55 GMT
Didn’t last time did it?
Wrexham sold out. What a shame.
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Post by Lobster on Dec 21, 2021 7:39:53 GMT
Didn’t last time did it? Wrexham sold out. What a shame. Not sure. I think last time the season had been curtailed anyway. But we had that issue with hosting the outdoor cinema due to the toilets being in Wales didn't we? I lose track of the Covid timeline. |
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Post by lincolnexile on Dec 21, 2021 9:05:15 GMT
Didn’t last time did it? Wrexham sold out. What a shame. Not sure. I think last time the season had been curtailed anyway. But we had that issue with hosting the outdoor cinema due to the toilets being in Wales didn't we? I lose track of the Covid timeline. I don't think it really matters to be honest. I can see everyone having to play behind closed doors after Boxing Day. If we were to be forced to play behind closed doors because part of our ground is in Wales would we be entitled to some of the £3M that the Welsh Government is promising to support clubs or will they deem us 'A bit Welsh but not Welsh enough to receive any money'. |
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Post by Lobster on Dec 21, 2021 9:17:45 GMT
Not sure. I think last time the season had been curtailed anyway. But we had that issue with hosting the outdoor cinema due to the toilets being in Wales didn't we? I lose track of the Covid timeline. I don't think it really matters to be honest. I can see everyone having to play behind closed doors after Boxing Day. If we were to be forced to play behind closed doors because part of our ground is in Wales would we be entitled to some of the £3M that the Welsh Government is promising to support clubs or will they deem us 'A bit Welsh but not Welsh enough to receive any money'. Yes, you could be right there about everyone being affected soon. It's not looking too good. If we did end up being hit by some sort of Wales-only restrictions, then it would be Welsh law that mandates we play behind closed doors, so I can see no logical reason why we wouldn't be entitled to support. Then again logic doesn't always seem to come into it. |
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Post by Anders on Dec 21, 2021 9:58:06 GMT
Didn’t last time did it? Wrexham sold out. What a shame. Not sure. I think last time the season had been curtailed anyway. But we had that issue with hosting the outdoor cinema due to the toilets being in Wales didn't we? I lose track of the Covid timeline. That cinema farce was because it required a special events license.
Last December we played Hereford & Bradford PA with 500 crowds whilst Wrexham had to carry on BCD.
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Post by Matt on Dec 21, 2021 10:00:06 GMT
Last time when we went into full lockdown we were able to bring back a capped attendance when all of Wales were still locked down so I think at the moment we’re ok but it’s only a matter of time before England is next |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Dec 21, 2021 10:12:57 GMT
Yeah the Welsh Gov have been two weeks ahead of the U.K. one throughout the whole pandemic so would expect similar lockdowns and behind-closed-door games for us sometime soon.
A return to live streaming hopefully.
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Post by Harry Lime on Dec 21, 2021 10:14:05 GMT
If it wasn't Christmas next week they'd have announced restrictions already. The longer they wait, the longer they'll be in place. Like last year.
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Post by Greasby Blue on Dec 21, 2021 10:31:18 GMT
I think the only effect the Welsh government can have on us is if they change the rules on selling Alcohol as the licence is with Alyn and Deeside council.
In all other respects it's Boris the clown.
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Post by eyeswideopen on Dec 21, 2021 10:56:35 GMT
I think if as owners, and therefore part of the working team we all bring cheese and wine to the game we should be fine.
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Post by bluejay on Dec 21, 2021 11:25:25 GMT
Here we go again.
Can we not even consider the possibility that we can't shut the whole country down every time there is a respiratory virus (and it looks like this one only affects the throat and not the lungs)? So many people I know have left Deva Chat because they find it an echo chamber where only approved opinions aren't clobbered.
So here goes: If fans aren't banned from going to matches I will be delighted. If any fans are worried by the current media coverage of the latest virus then I think a flexing of the rules to allow them to watch at home would be in order.
I think at some point we have to accept that we won't eliminate harmful viruses by staying indoors or have an honest conversation about our new approach to life which seems to consist of trying to.
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Post by bluejay on Dec 21, 2021 11:31:32 GMT
Having said all that, these players did very well behind closed doors...
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Post by Malcolm Tucker on Dec 21, 2021 11:42:01 GMT
Ridiculous decision. The evidence for any kind of major transmission at outdoor events is basically non existent, plus you can still go to the pub etc. and this sets a dangerous precedent of just having an annual period without crowds. Ludicrous.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Dec 21, 2021 11:48:54 GMT
It is a strange one to close stadia but not pubs and restaurants but it is a reminder that the restrictions taken in Wales, and other devolved nations, are still very much dependent on the U.K. Treasury’s say-so. If the U.K. government doesn’t give the Welsh government the funds to bring in restrictions across the board there’s not much they can do.
I do think, as above, the U.K. government will follow and our games are likely to be impacted. Think the only reason the U.K. government haven’t put similar in place yet is because of the revolt from backbenchers and murmurings of a leadership challenge. Bit sad really when political careers are prioritised over public health.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2021 11:51:03 GMT
Yeah the Welsh Gov have been two weeks ahead of the U.K. one throughout the whole pandemic so would expect similar lockdowns and behind-closed-door games for us sometime soon. A return to live streaming hopefully. At least we won’t be subject to possible frostbite, treacle coffee and £4 cans sitting at home 😂😂😂 |
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Post by agl on Dec 21, 2021 11:58:42 GMT
Here we go again. Can we not even consider the possibility that we can't shut the whole country down every time there is a respiratory virus (and it looks like this one only affects the throat and not the lungs)? So many people I know have left Deva Chat because they find it an echo chamber where only approved opinions aren't clobbered. So here goes: If fans aren't banned from going to matches I will be delighted. If any fans are worried by the current media coverage of the latest virus then I think a flexing of the rules to allow them to watch at home would be in order. I think at some point we have to accept that we won't eliminate harmful viruses by staying indoors or have an honest conversation about our new approach to life which seems to consist of trying to. If only it were that simple. You can't really have a situation where people are being turned away from hospitals, treatment delayed, cancers going undiagnosed and yet large scale entertainment events being staged. The argument that they are outdoors doesn't really hold water - public transport, car sharing and socialising around games are all part of the equation. I think it's pretty widely accepted that allowing Cheltenham and Liverpool vs Atletico to go ahead in 2020 cost lives (pre vaccines of course). This decision has to be driven by Covid related hospital admissions. If, as you say, the effects aren't serious, we can hopefully have some sort of equilibrium where infection rates are very high but the NHS can cope and we can all make our own choices about going to football. My understanding is that we're not at the stage where we can say with any confidence that the health service will be able to deal with Omicron without further restrictions. And to be fair, the restrictions are not being driven by the media but by health professionals. Arguably, if Boris wasn't in such a mess politically we'd already be going down the Wales route. |
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Post by Lobster on Dec 21, 2021 11:59:21 GMT
Here we go again. Can we not even consider the possibility that we can't shut the whole country down every time there is a respiratory virus (and it looks like this one only affects the throat and not the lungs)? So many people I know have left Deva Chat because they find it an echo chamber where only approved opinions aren't clobbered. So here goes: If fans aren't banned from going to matches I will be delighted. If any fans are worried by the current media coverage of the latest virus then I think a flexing of the rules to allow them to watch at home would be in order. I think at some point we have to accept that we won't eliminate harmful viruses by staying indoors or have an honest conversation about our new approach to life which seems to consist of trying to. Not sure why you don't feel you can express an opinion like that. I'd agree, largely. I was fully supportive of lockdown while we had no vaccine, but now I just worry that all these on-off regulations are just draining everybody's happiness and mental health, which shouldn't be taken lightly. |
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Post by Malcolm Tucker on Dec 21, 2021 12:13:36 GMT
Here we go again. Can we not even consider the possibility that we can't shut the whole country down every time there is a respiratory virus (and it looks like this one only affects the throat and not the lungs)? So many people I know have left Deva Chat because they find it an echo chamber where only approved opinions aren't clobbered. So here goes: If fans aren't banned from going to matches I will be delighted. If any fans are worried by the current media coverage of the latest virus then I think a flexing of the rules to allow them to watch at home would be in order. I think at some point we have to accept that we won't eliminate harmful viruses by staying indoors or have an honest conversation about our new approach to life which seems to consist of trying to. Not sure why you don't feel you can express an opinion like that. I'd agree, largely. I was fully supportive of lockdown while we had no vaccine, but now I just worry that all these on-off regulations are just draining everybodies happiness and mental health, which shouldn't be taken lightly. Likewise, I have previously been fully supportive of lockdowns etc. when needed, but what happened to learning to live with the virus? There is nothing more anyone can do than get triple jabbed and get on with their lives now. |
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Post by vandycandy on Dec 21, 2021 13:19:27 GMT
How's about we just have a full scale lockdown where nobody can leave the house again only this time we have it for the rest of our lives. That ought to satisfy the scaremongers.
All these variants will keep presenting themselves so just deal with it. A lockdown won't do a damn thing when they reopen up everything & wonder why the cases will rise once more. Bloody Ridiculous. How sweet of them though to let us all enjoy Christmas.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2021 14:31:35 GMT
Drakeford is absolutely embarrassing
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Post by trueblue2021 on Dec 21, 2021 14:33:45 GMT
Yeah the Welsh Gov have been two weeks ahead of the U.K. one throughout the whole pandemic so would expect similar lockdowns and behind-closed-door games for us sometime soon. A return to live streaming hopefully. The welsh government are a reflection of Wales itself. Miserable and devoid of any sense whatsoever. Grim little country full of sheeple it is |
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Post by wxmred on Dec 21, 2021 14:50:55 GMT
Drakeford is absolutely embarrassing I have lost all faith in the man. |
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Post by wxmred on Dec 21, 2021 14:51:33 GMT
Yeah the Welsh Gov have been two weeks ahead of the U.K. one throughout the whole pandemic so would expect similar lockdowns and behind-closed-door games for us sometime soon. A return to live streaming hopefully. The welsh government are a reflection of Wales itself. Miserable and devoid of any sense whatsoever. Grim little country full of sheeple it is  |
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Post by agl on Dec 21, 2021 14:53:18 GMT
How's about we just have a full scale lockdown where nobody can leave the house again only this time we have it for the rest of our lives. That ought to satisfy the scaremongers. All these variants will keep presenting themselves so just deal with it. A lockdown won't do a damn thing when they reopen up everything & wonder why the cases will rise once more. Bloody Ridiculous. How sweet of them though to let us all enjoy Christmas. I think the point of lockdowns is to flatten the curve of infection, thereby preventing the NHS being overwhelmed. Of course cases will rise again when restrictions are relaxed but in the meantime if you or me falls off our bike we might just get a hospital bed without having to lie in a corridor for half a day, or wait for hours for an ambulance. Now that really would be bloody ridiculous. |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Dec 21, 2021 14:58:37 GMT
Spot on AGL.
People wetting their beds over the idea of ensuring our health service can cope as best as possible. That’s what’s embarrassing.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Dec 21, 2021 15:00:10 GMT
Yeah the Welsh Gov have been two weeks ahead of the U.K. one throughout the whole pandemic so would expect similar lockdowns and behind-closed-door games for us sometime soon. A return to live streaming hopefully. The welsh government are a reflection of Wales itself. Miserable and devoid of any sense whatsoever. Grim little country full of sheeple it is Does that mean the U.K. government are a reflection of Little fascist England? To be fair…👀 |
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Post by vandycandy on Dec 21, 2021 15:01:44 GMT
Spot on AGL. People wetting their beds over the idea of ensuring our health service can cope as best as possible. That’s what’s embarrassing. Keep up with your boosters like a good boy Frank. |
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Post by trueblue2021 on Dec 21, 2021 15:18:57 GMT
How's about we just have a full scale lockdown where nobody can leave the house again only this time we have it for the rest of our lives. That ought to satisfy the scaremongers. All these variants will keep presenting themselves so just deal with it. A lockdown won't do a damn thing when they reopen up everything & wonder why the cases will rise once more. Bloody Ridiculous. How sweet of them though to let us all enjoy Christmas. I think the point of lockdowns is to flatten the curve of infection, thereby preventing the NHS being overwhelmed. Of course cases will rise again when restrictions are relaxed but in the meantime if you or me falls off our bike we might just get a hospital bed without having to lie in a corridor for half a day, or wait for hours for an ambulance. Now that really would be bloody ridiculous. The NHS works for us as we all pay for it. It isn't the other way round although it's unfit for purpose anyway. Just stop complying with all this useless embarrassing nonsense or it'll never end. |
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Post by trueblue2021 on Dec 21, 2021 15:19:38 GMT
The welsh government are a reflection of Wales itself. Miserable and devoid of any sense whatsoever. Grim little country full of sheeple it is Does that mean the U.K. government are a reflection of Little fascist England? To be fair…👀 Still better than Wales |
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