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Post by avfo on Apr 12, 2022 23:54:42 GMT
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Post by oldsealandroadender on Apr 13, 2022 1:30:48 GMT
Sounds like a dodgy deal but looks very glossy. No doubt there will be funding coming from the Welsh Government and possibly Euro grants. The balance sheet would make interesting reading, if anybody was allowed to see it.
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Post by Lobster on Apr 13, 2022 5:57:15 GMT
I haven't worked out whether he really is a bag egg or just a bit harmlessly wacky. His ideas seem a bit Wallace & Gromit. He's the sort of person you can imagine inventing a teapot with ten spouts or something.
As I understand it, we did get some financial help from him so I don't hate the bloke, I just think his approach for the club was poorly thought out and not entirely honest.
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Apr 13, 2022 7:54:21 GMT
I remember him from the early days of CFC when he was a good benefactor until he never got his own way. At that time he upped and left, leaving the club with some commitments (Sky/BT in the bars is one example that springs to mind) that he said he would cover but never.
I get the impression this is what happened 2nd time around. He had promised to fund new contracts for players and staff, and when it became obvious that the Bumpers Lane Surf Centre and Monkey Garage nightclub wasn't going to happen he upped sticks and left.
The tidal generation scheme would be very attractive to government money, and is a very now topic. I just cant see how a man who is driven around in a car bigger than my house can play the eco warrior card with a straight face...
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Post by eyeswideopen on Apr 13, 2022 9:06:15 GMT
I remember him from the early days of CFC when he was a good benefactor until he never got his own way. At that time he upped and left, leaving the club with some commitments (Sky/BT in the bars is one example that springs to mind) that he said he would cover but never. I get the impression this is what happened 2nd time around. He had promised to fund new contracts for players and staff, and when it became obvious that the Bumpers Lane Surf Centre and Monkey Garage nightclub wasn't going to happen he upped sticks and left. The tidal generation scheme would be very attractive to government money, and is a very now topic. I just cant see how a man who is driven around in a car bigger than my house can play the eco warrior card with a straight face... I wonder if he rows a boat to Gibraltar too for those business meetings instead of flying. Maybe he could afford someone to row it for him with all that tax he saves paying.....
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Post by bluejay on Apr 13, 2022 9:55:34 GMT
Businesses are looking to the easiest growth areas and renewable energy with the huge government subsidies are a quick win. Nice to know the 1/3rd of my energy bill that pays these subsidies is keeping him in profit...
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Post by Ian H Block on Apr 13, 2022 10:32:27 GMT
Businesses are looking to the easiest growth areas and renewable energy with the huge government subsidies are a quick win. Nice to know the 1/3rd of my energy bill that pays these subsidies is keeping him in profit... Green energy subsidies account for about 7% of bills, not 1/3. Think you’ve been spending too long on those far-right websites again.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Apr 13, 2022 11:52:23 GMT
All he needs is someone else’s £5bn 🙃
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Post by league2 on Apr 13, 2022 12:16:58 GMT
Never burn your bridges folks ,you don't know whats around the corner
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2022 12:24:37 GMT
Never burn your bridges folks ,you don't know whats around the corner I wouldn’t just burn it, I’d have it laced with C4 for eternity before I’d let this c**t near our club again. The man is a crackpot. At least Vaughan was an out and out criminal, this man gives me Allen Stanford vibes.
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Post by weareblues on Apr 13, 2022 13:45:01 GMT
Think some the comments made towards him are abit disrespectful still put alot of money into the club signed us some good players, Paid for the Newquay trip which is probably about the only highlight the club has had since Barnsley away.
Didn't work out in the end but wouldn't suprise me one bit if this latest project of his took off knowing our luck.
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Post by Designer on Apr 13, 2022 15:02:20 GMT
When I realised the source of this news was the Irish Times (or any other newspaper of repute) I immediately thought the date of the article was April 1st - I checked but no it is Wednesday 13th April!!.
This guy is obviously bidding to become the President of the "Snake Oil Society of Salesmen" However, this time, following the debacle at CFC, he is attempting to play Big Boys Games but with Big Boys Rules that inevitably will cause this crackpot idea to crash and burn.
This is of course not to denigrate the idea of tidal energy, which has various prototype projects in Scotland and off Angelsey. However, these projects are tidal turbines that are submerged near the sea bed at locations that offer high tidal flows rather than using a high hydraulic head (using a barrage or Murphy Islands) on the incoming and reverse tides to drive power turbines.
Yes, the guy deserves some credit for the contribution of some cash a couple of years ago but I think CFC was never going to be big enough for him and I think when these successful guys earn so much money they start thinking about legacy and this is the latest idea.
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Post by bluejay on Apr 13, 2022 20:44:42 GMT
Businesses are looking to the easiest growth areas and renewable energy with the huge government subsidies are a quick win. Nice to know the 1/3rd of my energy bill that pays these subsidies is keeping him in profit... Green energy subsidies account for about 7% of bills, not 1/3. Think you’ve been spending too long on those far-right websites again. My bad. It's only electricity that attracts the huge subsidies (about a quarter rather than a third). As for your more passive aggressive comment I took the trouble of listing my influences a few months ago as my views do tend to be different to the majority on here (this is why lots of people have left btw, or don't post - they think they'll get rounded on by you lefties!!) I'm naturally a contrarian but if you think my influences are far right then you must be even further left than Brother Frank. Sorry to drag you into this Frank 🙄 My interest in green subsidies and energy security has far more to do with work I'm afraid.
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Post by Ian H Block on Apr 14, 2022 5:45:06 GMT
Green energy subsidies account for about 7% of bills, not 1/3. Think you’ve been spending too long on those far-right websites again. My bad. It's only electricity that attracts the huge subsidies (about a quarter rather than a third). As for your more passive aggressive comment I took the trouble of listing my influences a few months ago as my views do tend to be different to the majority on here (this is why lots of people have left btw, or don't post - they think they'll get rounded on by you lefties!!) I'm naturally a contrarian but if you think my influences are far right then you must be even further left than Brother Frank. Sorry to drag you into this Frank 🙄 My interest in green subsidies and energy security has far more to do with work I'm afraid. Is contrarian shorthand for posting absolute bollocks?
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Post by arthuro on Apr 14, 2022 7:56:23 GMT
Green energy subsidies account for about 7% of bills, not 1/3. Think you’ve been spending too long on those far-right websites again. My bad. It's only electricity that attracts the huge subsidies (about a quarter rather than a third). As for your more passive aggressive comment I took the trouble of listing my influences a few months ago as my views do tend to be different to the majority on here (this is why lots of people have left btw, or don't post - they think they'll get rounded on by you lefties!!) I'm naturally a contrarian but if you think my influences are far right then you must be even further left than Brother Frank. Sorry to drag you into this Frank 🙄 My interest in green subsidies and energy security has far more to do with work I'm afraid. Part of the fun of this board is seeing those two brand everyone fascists at a comment which they don’t agree with. The off-topic forum is dead because of those two and the fact they don’t know how to formulate discussion and just end up throwing child like insults.
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Post by Ian H Block on Apr 14, 2022 8:57:43 GMT
My bad. It's only electricity that attracts the huge subsidies (about a quarter rather than a third). As for your more passive aggressive comment I took the trouble of listing my influences a few months ago as my views do tend to be different to the majority on here (this is why lots of people have left btw, or don't post - they think they'll get rounded on by you lefties!!) I'm naturally a contrarian but if you think my influences are far right then you must be even further left than Brother Frank. Sorry to drag you into this Frank 🙄 My interest in green subsidies and energy security has far more to do with work I'm afraid. Part of the fun of this board is seeing those two brand everyone fascists at a comment which they don’t agree with. The off-topic forum is dead because of those two and the fact they don’t know how to formulate discussion and just end up throwing child like insults. Who’s throwing out insults here? You used the term fascist, nobody else did. I’m just calling out the bullshit facts he’s using, obviously gleaned from the far-right media he is a proud consumer of. As for the moribund off-topic section, two of the busier users, Oaks Blue and upsidedown, had some kind of emotional breakdown, and as for the other Tory boys, they are probably too ashamed or embarrassed to post.
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Apr 14, 2022 15:14:36 GMT
Part of the fun of this board is seeing those two brand everyone fascists at a comment which they don’t agree with. The off-topic forum is dead because of those two and the fact they don’t know how to formulate discussion and just end up throwing child like insults. Who’s throwing out insults here? You used the term fascist, nobody else did. I’m just calling out the bullshit facts he’s using, obviously gleaned from the far-right media he is a proud consumer of. As for the moribund off-topic section, two of the busier users, Oaks Blue and upsidedown, had some kind of emotional breakdown, and as for the other Tory boys, they are probably too ashamed or embarrassed to post. Let it go, fella.
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Post by borussiachester on Apr 14, 2022 16:08:36 GMT
Part of the fun of this board is seeing those two brand everyone fascists at a comment which they don’t agree with. The off-topic forum is dead because of those two and the fact they don’t know how to formulate discussion and just end up throwing child like insults. Who’s throwing out insults here? You used the term fascist, nobody else did. I’m just calling out the bullshit facts he’s using, obviously gleaned from the far-right media he is a proud consumer of. As for the moribund off-topic section, two of the busier users, Oaks Blue and upsidedown, had some kind of emotional breakdown, and as for the other Tory boys, they are probably too ashamed or embarrassed to post. Could we please have some kind of blanket ban on political discourse, at least on the general discussion pages? I’ve not been here long but this week alone I’ve seen multiple threads degenerate into slanging matches with little to do with the original topic, all because a few posters are desperate to shoehorn their own agendas into the conversation regardless of their relevance or lack thereof. I’m someone with pretty strong political persuasions myself but I’ll leave them at the door when I’m posting on here, as indeed I do when I’m at the games in person. Those who refuse to do the same are just giving off the same impression as a few cranks arguing with each other in the local pub, and often ruin things for the rest of us who post on a football forum because we want to talk about football; it’s not as if there isn’t an off-topic section for those who want to have these sorts of non-footballing discussions.
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Post by norwegianblue on Apr 15, 2022 10:13:41 GMT
Think some the comments made towards him are abit disrespectful still put alot of money into the club signed us some good players, Paid for the Newquay trip which is probably about the only highlight the club has had since Barnsley away. Didn't work out in the end but wouldn't suprise me one bit if this latest project of his took off knowing our luck. Tidal energy as an energy source although sounds a fantastic solution is at least 30 years away due to technical development. I don’t blame anyone for wanting to invest in renewables especially after Dale Vince’s success. However after Mr Murphy’s failure to positively respond to the CFU’s request of ‘Put up or shut up’, I would treat this latest project with scepticism.
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Post by Lobster on Apr 15, 2022 11:27:18 GMT
Who’s throwing out insults here? You used the term fascist, nobody else did. I’m just calling out the bullshit facts he’s using, obviously gleaned from the far-right media he is a proud consumer of. As for the moribund off-topic section, two of the busier users, Oaks Blue and upsidedown, had some kind of emotional breakdown, and as for the other Tory boys, they are probably too ashamed or embarrassed to post. Could we please have some kind of blanket ban on political discourse, at least on the general discussion pages? I’ve not been here long but this week alone I’ve seen multiple threads degenerate into slanging matches with little to do with the original topic, all because a few posters are desperate to shoehorn their own agendas into the conversation regardless of their relevance or lack thereof. I’m someone with pretty strong political persuasions myself but I’ll leave them at the door when I’m posting on here, as indeed I do when I’m at the games in person. Those who refuse to do the same are just giving off the same impression as a few cranks arguing with each other in the local pub, and often ruin things for the rest of us who post on a football forum because we want to talk about football; it’s not as if there isn’t an off-topic section for those who want to have these sorts of non-footballing discussions. It is tedious. It's sometimes hard to know when a thread becomes "political". For example, did Bluejay start that by talking about energy subsidising or did Ian H with his response? Ian could've just pointed out the mistake without bringing far-right websites into it and I suppose one or two people could do with being less confrontational as that's how these things escalate. Might have been better for these two Murphy threads to have been in off-topic from the start, as someone has now decided they should be.
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Post by bluejay on Apr 18, 2022 19:21:45 GMT
Part of the fun of this board is seeing those two brand everyone fascists at a comment which they don’t agree with. The off-topic forum is dead because of those two and the fact they don’t know how to formulate discussion and just end up throwing child like insults. Who’s throwing out insults here? You used the term fascist, nobody else did. I’m just calling out the bullshit facts he’s using, obviously gleaned from the far-right media he is a proud consumer of. As for the moribund off-topic section, two of the busier users, Oaks Blue and upsidedown, had some kind of emotional breakdown, and as for the other Tory boys, they are probably too ashamed or embarrassed to post. It's only you being insulting. I got the information from the 'far right' BBC. You just happen to disagree with it.
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Post by bluejay on Apr 18, 2022 19:26:14 GMT
Could we please have some kind of blanket ban on political discourse, at least on the general discussion pages? I’ve not been here long but this week alone I’ve seen multiple threads degenerate into slanging matches with little to do with the original topic, all because a few posters are desperate to shoehorn their own agendas into the conversation regardless of their relevance or lack thereof. I’m someone with pretty strong political persuasions myself but I’ll leave them at the door when I’m posting on here, as indeed I do when I’m at the games in person. Those who refuse to do the same are just giving off the same impression as a few cranks arguing with each other in the local pub, and often ruin things for the rest of us who post on a football forum because we want to talk about football; it’s not as if there isn’t an off-topic section for those who want to have these sorts of non-footballing discussions. It is tedious. It's sometimes hard to know when a thread becomes "political". For example, did Bluejay start that by talking about energy subsidising or did Ian H with his response? Ian could've just pointed out the mistake without bringing far-right websites into it and I suppose one or two people could do with being less confrontational as that's how these things escalate. Might have been better for these two Murphy threads to have been in off-topic from the start, as someone has now decided they should be. I think Ian H might have an issue with me as every post keeps labelling me 'far right' and what I post as utter bollocks. I'm not sure that makes the start of this even close to 50:50. Really does feel like a bit of a closed shop with 3 or 4 of you on here - could you try to sort it out please or at least be clear that there are good politics on the chat and bad politics and bad politics will be legitimately targeted with abuse.
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