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Post by whopper3 on May 16, 2017 19:55:17 GMT
Why hasn't this idiot been sacked yet ?
If he starts next season with us we will be relegated.
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Post by bing on May 16, 2017 20:00:59 GMT
Why hasn't this idiot been sacked yet ? If he starts next season with us we will be relegated. Must be a quiet night in the Whopper household. |
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Post by rcb on May 16, 2017 22:06:14 GMT
When an incompetent duo take a club to the brink of relegation they should be sacked. As usual Chester FC shot themselves in the foot and kept on a virgin manager, opting to only sack Burr. The desired recoil reaction by the team resulted in three good wins to survive the scare.
Last August we had an inexperienced manager who caused concern in a significant number of fans, but with only a one year contract at least he had to work hard to prove himself capable. Ably assisted by Sharps some good results were achieved. Sharps left, and something very smelly clearly hit the fan - why? It continued for the whole of 2017, so not exactly a brief loose motion!.
The real question on this thread should perhaps be "Why has the idiot who wholly unnecessarily gave McCarthy a two and a half year contract not been sacked yet?"
Contract duly signed, financial security assured, and devoid of motivation, McCarthy tried the impossible in attempting relegation from sitting in seventh position. With only four months to do it he almost succeeded, only two points too many. If only he had another one more game to lose he would have got us relegated and inevitably sacked. Unfortunate Jon - you now have to actually work for your wages for the next two years. No handsome payoff for you!
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Post by Lobster on May 17, 2017 6:03:32 GMT
To suggest he hasn't been working hard and has been unmotivated is unfair I think. It was a terrible second half of the season but I don't think it was for the want of trying on his part.
I do fear that we're just delaying the inevitable by sticking with him, and will be playing catchup halfway through the season as a result. I was coming round to the idea that it might not be so bad if McCarthy had an experienced assistant alongside him but the appointment of Tom Shaw as assistant is not the solution I was hoping for. He needs to be on the pitch, and if he's on the pitch he's not the dugout presence McCarthy needs. As always I believe in giving people a fair chance and I hope it works, but it's hard to have anything more than blind faith.
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Post by sqzl on May 17, 2017 7:51:20 GMT
To suggest he hasn't been working hard and has been unmotivated is unfair I think. It was a terrible second half of the season but I don't think it was for the want of trying on his part. I do fear that we're just delaying the inevitable by sticking with him, and will be playing catchup halfway through the season as a result. I was coming round to the idea that it might not be so bad if McCarthy had an experienced assistant alongside him but the appointment of Tom Shaw as assistant is not the solution I was hoping for. He needs to be on the pitch, and if he's on the pitch he's not the dugout presence McCarthy needs. As always I believe in giving people a fair chance and I hope it works, but it's hard to have anything more than blind faith. In all fairness, Sharps has no assistant experience and seemingly did a good job for us as everyone now thinks he is a messiah that carried JM. Shaw knows the players, he should know their strengths and weaknesses and no doubt will want to work hard having seen the opportunity that has come to Sharps. Great platform for him, hopefully it will work out. |
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Post by rcb on May 17, 2017 8:05:27 GMT
Lobster - I think we are singing from th same song sheet. McCarthy was probably working very hard, which in some ways makes it even more tragic. Clearly his hard work has been to no good effect since Christmas, and to take your point, this is when an experienced assistant can bring this to the fore and help get back to basics. Left unchecked, as was the case since Christmas, almost proved disastrous.
His stubbornness in his signing of wrong players and opting for fanciful systems has hopefully added much needed experience to his mindset. In all sports they say you always learn much more from mistakes, so let's hope this is the case here. In an ideal world wouldn't it be nice if he quietly moved on elsewhere as an Assistant Manager to continue his education.
Keeping him was a shot in the foot, and his long contract extension was another. Let's hope this failure to get a forceful and experienced assistant isn't another shot because both feet are already gone.
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Post by blue4life on May 17, 2017 8:11:17 GMT
To suggest he hasn't been working hard and has been unmotivated is unfair I think. It was a terrible second half of the season but I don't think it was for the want of trying on his part. I do fear that we're just delaying the inevitable by sticking with him, and will be playing catchup halfway through the season as a result. I was coming round to the idea that it might not be so bad if McCarthy had an experienced assistant alongside him but the appointment of Tom Shaw as assistant is not the solution I was hoping for. He needs to be on the pitch, and if he's on the pitch he's not the dugout presence McCarthy needs. As always I believe in giving people a fair chance and I hope it works, but it's hard to have anything more than blind faith. In all fairness, Sharps has no assistant experience and seemingly did a good job for us as everyone now thinks he is a messiah that carried JM. Shaw knows the players, he should know their strengths and weaknesses and no doubt will want to work hard having seen the opportunity that has come to Sharps. Great platform for him, hopefully it will work out. But Shaw is only 31 and should be concentrating on his football, far to early in his career to be assistant manager. The club should of gone for experience IMO. |
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Post by sqzl on May 17, 2017 9:29:32 GMT
In all fairness, Sharps has no assistant experience and seemingly did a good job for us as everyone now thinks he is a messiah that carried JM. Shaw knows the players, he should know their strengths and weaknesses and no doubt will want to work hard having seen the opportunity that has come to Sharps. Great platform for him, hopefully it will work out. But Shaw is only 31 and should be concentrating on his football, far to early in his career to be assistant manager. The club should of gone for experience IMO. In honesty, i agree with you that we should. However i honestly think Shaw will do okay in the role, it's more about if JM recruits the right players for me. Whether he will remains to be seen, but i wouldn't let Shaws age be of concern, just look at Julian Nagelsmann. |
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Post by Hannibal on May 17, 2017 10:07:38 GMT
Why hasn't this idiot been sacked yet ? If he starts next season with us we will be relegated. Do you always have to resort to personal insults? |
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Post by blue4life on May 17, 2017 10:45:14 GMT
Why hasn't this idiot been sacked yet ? If he starts next season with us we will be relegated. Do you always have to resort to personal insults? Calling McCarthy an idiot is being kind. |
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Post by whopper3 on May 17, 2017 20:10:16 GMT
Hannibal
How would you describe McCarthy then ?
Don't tell me your a fan of the idiot are you ? LOL
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Post by Hannibal on May 17, 2017 20:41:48 GMT
Hannibal How would you describe McCarthy then ? Don't tell me your a fan of the idiot are you ? LOL No I'm not a fan but he is a friend and a human being and as I wouldn't call him an idiot to his face, neither would call him one on a forum either. The person you should be attacking is the man/group who were naive enough to give him an idiotic contract extension. |
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Post by The Angry Agenda on May 17, 2017 21:01:52 GMT
Why hasn't this idiot been sacked yet ? If he starts next season with us we will be relegated. McCarthy was clever enough to announce his retained list Straight away, and also a new signing. This took all the Attention off him, as people were more interested in talking about who'd been released and what the new lad was like - the perfect smokescreen. |
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Post by lachelane on May 17, 2017 21:18:40 GMT
Hannibal How would you describe McCarthy then ? Don't tell me your a fan of the idiot are you ? LOL How long are we going to put up with the Whoppers who seem to be against everybody and everything to do with OUR club. |
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Post by soulseal on May 18, 2017 6:52:14 GMT
I agree, ban Whopper et al !
Seriously I am fed up with bad mouthing critics of the club pretending to be supporters.
I am all for erudite supporters criticising the decisions and performances of the club and team, but as soon as some one at the club is called an idiot, liar and worse I've had enough.
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Post by South Wirral Blue on May 18, 2017 7:40:16 GMT
To suggest he hasn't been working hard and has been unmotivated is unfair I think. It was a terrible second half of the season but I don't think it was for the want of trying on his part. I do fear that we're just delaying the inevitable by sticking with him, and will be playing catchup halfway through the season as a result. I was coming round to the idea that it might not be so bad if McCarthy had an experienced assistant alongside him but the appointment of Tom Shaw as assistant is not the solution I was hoping for. He needs to be on the pitch, and if he's on the pitch he's not the dugout presence McCarthy needs. As always I believe in giving people a fair chance and I hope it works, but it's hard to have anything more than blind faith. I think that sums up quite a lot of people's feeling on this. |
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Post by g1 on May 18, 2017 9:38:19 GMT
I agree, ban Whopper et al ! Seriously I am fed up with bad mouthing critics of the club pretending to be supporters. I am all for erudite supporters criticising the decisions and performances of the club and team, but as soon as some one at the club is called an idiot, liar and worse I've had enough. they are correct the whoppers if people think he's the right man god forbid |
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Post by bing on May 18, 2017 10:00:34 GMT
But the Whoppers never have anything good to say about the club. Perhaps their names give a clue as to their authenticity as Chester fans?
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Post by bonecrusher on May 18, 2017 21:11:56 GMT
Why hasn't this idiot been sacked yet ? If he starts next season with us we will be relegated. To be honest I'm glad someone has finally brought this up. It's about time we discussed it. |
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