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Post by Rio Doherty on May 23, 2017 6:23:48 GMT
Absolutely dispicable on what happened at the Ariana Grande concert last night. 21,000 people went to have fun, yet 22 people have been killed so far. My thoughts and prayers are with everyone who went to it, including some people from my school who went to it. ❤️🙏 Stay strong Manchester.
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Post by Hannibal on May 23, 2017 8:47:34 GMT
Just got up and only saw this a few minutes ago. Don't know the full facts yet. just another incidence of the Tory cuts costing lives. The police and security services need to be funded well enough to do their job and not facing constant budget cuts. I've just returned from Israel which we were told was the safest country in the world. This is because their internal security is at the top of their list and they spend 60% of their GDP on it. Wake up Theresa, lives and a feeling of security are more important than lining pockets.
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Post by Manchester Blue on May 23, 2017 8:50:24 GMT
Just got up and only saw this a few minutes ago. Don't know the full facts yet. just another incidence of the Tory cuts costing lives. The police and security services need to be funded well enough to do their job and not facing constant budget cuts. I've just returned from Israel which we were told was the safest country in the world. This is because their internal security is at the top of their list and they spend 60% of their GDP on it. Wake up Theresa, lives and a feeling of security are more important than lining pockets. Theres a Time and place for comments like this and this isn't it! |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 9:41:40 GMT
Just got up and only saw this a few minutes ago. Don't know the full facts yet. just another incidence of the Tory cuts costing lives. The police and security services need to be funded well enough to do their job and not facing constant budget cuts. I've just returned from Israel which we were told was the safest country in the world. This is because their internal security is at the top of their list and they spend 60% of their GDP on it. Wake up Theresa, lives and a feeling of security are more important than lining pockets. Theres a Time and place for comments like this and this isn't it! couldn't agree more. your comments Hannibal are bollocks and if I were a mod I would remove them |
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Post by thevoice on May 23, 2017 10:36:26 GMT
arndale centre has just been evacuated
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Post by thevoice on May 23, 2017 10:56:22 GMT
23 year old arrested in connection with the bombing
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 23, 2017 11:24:33 GMT
I'm concerned that this is going to be hijacked for the General Election run-in and the whole "terrorist sympathiser" smears will become even more prominent than they are now whilst Mayhem is sold to the public as even more "strong and stable" by the rampant right-wing press. Just look at the S*n's front page today - disgraceful.
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Post by Hannibal on May 23, 2017 12:31:53 GMT
I'm concerned that this is going to be hijacked for the General Election run-in and the whole "terrorist sympathiser" smears will become even more prominent than they are now whilst Mayhem is sold to the public as even more "strong and stable" by the rampant right-wing press. Just look at the S*n's front page today - disgraceful. My feelings also. I should have said on my original post my thoughts and prayers for the bereaved and injured. I had no idea it was as devastating as it was. |
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Post by thevoice on May 23, 2017 12:39:02 GMT
just been announced the 2nd victim was an 8 year old girl
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Post by Manchester Blue on May 23, 2017 13:00:26 GMT
I'm concerned that this is going to be hijacked for the General Election run-in and the whole "terrorist sympathiser" smears will become even more prominent than they are now whilst Mayhem is sold to the public as even more "strong and stable" by the rampant right-wing press. Just look at the S*n's front page today - disgraceful. What ever peoples political views today's not the day to air them. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 23, 2017 14:44:37 GMT
That's a fair point. I'm not disrespecting the dead and my condolences go out to the families of all involved but we shall see what happens politically from now. The major parties have agreed to cease campaigning at the present time yet Mayhem is on telly every five minutes today, getting a lot of airtime. If politics should be put aside, that includes her does it not? If the Tories’ poll ratings enjoy a bounce after this incident, then they will be guilty of the worst kind of politics – using a tragedy for petty political positioning.
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Post by paulie on May 23, 2017 17:00:24 GMT
That's a fair point. I'm not disrespecting the dead and my condolences go out to the families of all involved but we shall see what happens politically from now. The major parties have agreed to cease campaigning at the present time yet Mayhem is on telly every five minutes today, getting a lot of airtime. If politics should be put aside, that includes her does it not? If the Tories’ poll ratings enjoy a bounce after this incident, then they will be guilty of the worst kind of politics – using a tragedy for petty political positioning. I'm no way a Tory supporter but that harridan May is still the leader of this country and times like this has to show face. Depressing day, seems nobody is safe. Can't see any end to this either. |
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Post by Rio Doherty on May 23, 2017 17:35:29 GMT
Attacker named as Salman Abedi.
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Post by Derry Blue on May 23, 2017 17:55:23 GMT
That's a fair point. I'm not disrespecting the dead and my condolences go out to the families of all involved but we shall see what happens politically from now. The major parties have agreed to cease campaigning at the present time yet Mayhem is on telly every five minutes today, getting a lot of airtime. If politics should be put aside, that includes her does it not? If the Tories’ poll ratings enjoy a bounce after this incident, then they will be guilty of the worst kind of politics – using a tragedy for petty political positioning. You are well out of order. A time and a place for cheap politics. |
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Post by marner93 on May 23, 2017 18:32:20 GMT
Mancot Blue trying to wind people up on the internet, never.
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Post by jayhawks on May 23, 2017 22:09:46 GMT
Its a bit concerning that these terror attacks all seem to be happening on 22nd of the month.
Make sure you stay in on 22/07/17 |
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Post by Oaks Blue on May 23, 2017 23:39:07 GMT
That's a fair point. I'm not disrespecting the dead and my condolences go out to the families of all involved but we shall see what happens politically from now. The major parties have agreed to cease campaigning at the present time yet Mayhem is on telly every five minutes today, getting a lot of airtime. If politics should be put aside, that includes her does it not? If the Tories’ poll ratings enjoy a bounce after this incident, then they will be guilty of the worst kind of politics – using a tragedy for petty political positioning. Why don't you crank it up a notch and go 'surgical aplomb' you know you still have it in you... |
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Post by Lobster on May 24, 2017 5:44:27 GMT
I wouldn't say this is a totally a-political subject, but it might be best to keep it off this thread. There's another thread just below this about politics and the election.
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Post by dmcnally on May 24, 2017 10:00:35 GMT
Its a bit concerning that these terror attacks all seem to be happening on 22nd of the month.
Make sure you stay in on 22/07/17 My mothers birthday, better not treat her to anything too special. |
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Post by Ian H Block on May 24, 2017 10:23:56 GMT
Its a bit concerning that these terror attacks all seem to be happening on 22nd of the month.
Make sure you stay in on 22/07/17 Like the 9/11 and 7/7 attacks? |
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 24, 2017 10:55:01 GMT
That's a fair point. I'm not disrespecting the dead and my condolences go out to the families of all involved but we shall see what happens politically from now. The major parties have agreed to cease campaigning at the present time yet Mayhem is on telly every five minutes today, getting a lot of airtime. If politics should be put aside, that includes her does it not? If the Tories’ poll ratings enjoy a bounce after this incident, then they will be guilty of the worst kind of politics – using a tragedy for petty political positioning. Why don't you crank it up a notch and go 'surgical aplomb' you know you still have it in you... I really don't understand the reaction - in no way, shape or form have I attempted a deliberately antagonistic post and I feel I am entitled to express the opinion that the current government, previously on the ropes, will most likely utilise this terrible atrocity for their own political gain. THAT is the disgrace, not the fact that people are pointing it out. To touch on Hannibal's initial reply above, had there not been so many cuts in police forces for the last seven years then the government wouldn't have needed soldiers on the streets. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 24, 2017 10:57:45 GMT
Its a bit concerning that these terror attacks all seem to be happening on 22nd of the month.
Make sure you stay in on 22/07/17 I saw people mentioning this on social media as a "pattern" - it isn't anywhere near a pattern considering of the quoted dates of terrorist acts (which is only a select number of acts, incidentally), there's a three-year gap between the first two acts and the months for the following acts aren't in order. You can't live your lives this way. With all due respect for the victims you've got to get on with it - otherwise the terrorists win. |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 11:12:32 GMT
There's only one person attempting political gain here and that the usual suspect, is there no limit to what some people will manipulate to make a point ? Clumsy at best, loathsome at worst.
That's the end of the conversation from me as its not appropriate, and RIP to all those who have suffered.
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Post by Oaks Blue on May 24, 2017 11:25:03 GMT
Why don't you crank it up a notch and go 'surgical aplomb' you know you still have it in you... I really don't understand the reaction - in no way, shape or form have I attempted a deliberately antagonistic post and I feel I am entitled to express the opinion that the current government, previously on the ropes, will most likely utilise this terrible atrocity for their own political gain. THAT is the disgrace, not the fact that people are pointing it out. To touch on Hannibal's initial reply above, had there not been so many cuts in police forces for the last seven years then the government wouldn't have needed soldiers on the streets. Tell me when the last time ANY government adequately funded the police force to effectively prevent a terror attack on a public place? I won't hold my breath, as it's impossible Keep trolling somewhere else Mancot you silly little boy |
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Post by jayhawks on May 24, 2017 13:45:35 GMT
Its a bit concerning that these terror attacks all seem to be happening on 22nd of the month.
Make sure you stay in on 22/07/17 Like the 9/11 and 7/7 attacks? Obviously not all of them but
22/07/11 - Norway attack 22/05/13 - Lee Rigby 22/03/16 - Brussels attack 22/07/16 - Munich attack 22/03/17 - Westminster attack 22/05/17 - Manchester attack
Smart arse
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 24, 2017 15:35:00 GMT
I really don't understand the reaction - in no way, shape or form have I attempted a deliberately antagonistic post and I feel I am entitled to express the opinion that the current government, previously on the ropes, will most likely utilise this terrible atrocity for their own political gain. THAT is the disgrace, not the fact that people are pointing it out. To touch on Hannibal's initial reply above, had there not been so many cuts in police forces for the last seven years then the government wouldn't have needed soldiers on the streets. Tell me when the last time ANY government adequately funded the police force to effectively prevent a terror attack on a public place? I won't hold my breath, as it's impossible Keep trolling somewhere else Mancot you silly little boy Not trolling but OK I'll move it to the election thread. At least somebody agrees with me on this thread anyway. Perhaps they're trolling too? |
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Post by Oaks Blue on May 24, 2017 16:21:51 GMT
Tell me when the last time ANY government adequately funded the police force to effectively prevent a terror attack on a public place? I won't hold my breath, as it's impossible Keep trolling somewhere else Mancot you silly little boy Not trolling but OK I'll move it to the election thread. At least somebody agrees with me on this thread anyway. Perhaps they're trolling too? Ok but please make sure, whatever happens that you avoid answering my question above, it's not like a Labour supporter to claim something with zero substance afterall... |
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Post by Hannibal on May 24, 2017 17:20:40 GMT
Why don't you crank it up a notch and go 'surgical aplomb' you know you still have it in you... I really don't understand the reaction - in no way, shape or form have I attempted a deliberately antagonistic post and I feel I am entitled to express the opinion that the current government, previously on the ropes, will most likely utilise this terrible atrocity for their own political gain. THAT is the disgrace, not the fact that people are pointing it out. To touch on Hannibal's initial reply above, had there not been so many cuts in police forces for the last seven years then the government wouldn't have needed soldiers on the streets. Yes and the scum that perpetrated this atrocity has allegedly just returned from Syria and Libya. Someone has cocked up there. He should have been arrested immediately he set foot back in this country. |
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Post by thevoice on May 24, 2017 19:56:54 GMT
the bomber's father and brother have been both arrested in libya
sadly one person who was only on tv a few weeks ago trying to look like david beckham has sent some vile messages on his facebook which have since been removed but seen by thousands and screen shotted to remind him what he's done
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Post by Rio Doherty on Jun 3, 2017 22:08:54 GMT
Another alleged terror attack at London Bridge tonight with around 15-20 people injured after a van has ploughed into them. This world is seriously getting worse and it's very sad to hear these sort of stories very often. My thoughts go out to all those in London 🙏.
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