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Post by dmcnally on Jun 10, 2017 22:54:17 GMT
I agree. The bloke has come in for an absolute battering over recent months, and where most of us would have taken the easy option by accepting the first bid in January, he saw that the club could quite rightly have gotten more, and that patience has paid off. As CEO, he will also have played a huge part in negotiating the contracts for the players we have brought in too. I don't understand some of the Criticism aimed towards him either. The role of a CEO is a very important and quite a tricky job which I think Maguire has handled well so far, such as rejecting the bid from Barnsley in January and also avoiding a tribunal. Don't forget, he has only been in the job for around a year now, and one of the first things he mentioned is that it would take around 18 months for everything to come to fruition. The season ticket campaign looks like it might be a success, especially with him wanting to tempt more children to Chester FC with the free season ticket. If some fans stay patient, they might start to see some things come to fruition very soon. You've also got to remember he produced that huge document just to get our Wrexham fine overturned. Mark doesn't just have business experience, he has football business experience which is vital to the club. |
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Post by Anders on Jun 11, 2017 0:08:56 GMT
To be fair to Maguire you can’t judge him overnight, I’m sure a lot of things he’s overseeing are long projects so to speak. I do think some have been very quick to get on his back without much reason for doing so in recent months, perhaps he’s just an easy target. He’s had a good few weeks, there’s a bit more positivity around the place. Hope it continues.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jun 11, 2017 12:06:39 GMT
The amount of people with nothing better to do than slag a 14 year old lad who volunteers at the club on this message board is astounding. Wind your necks in lads Sam has gone, 125k is pure profit and its a good deal for the club. End of Pure profit >>>>>>> does that mean the buying club pay the 20% VAT and the agent's fee >>>>>>> genuine question. No idea. But you get the point. He cost us nothing |
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Post by billyw on Jun 11, 2017 12:47:44 GMT
A good photo of Sam on the front of today's Non League Paper.
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Post by Hannibal on Jun 11, 2017 13:09:11 GMT
I agree. The bloke has come in for an absolute battering over recent months, and where most of us would have taken the easy option by accepting the first bid in January, he saw that the club could quite rightly have gotten more, and that patience has paid off. As CEO, he will also have played a huge part in negotiating the contracts for the players we have brought in too. either. The role of a CEO is a very important and quite a tricky job which I think Maguire has handled well so far, such as rejecting the bid from Barnsley in January and also avoiding a tribunal. Don't forget, he has only been in the job for around a year now, and one of the first things he mentioned is that it would take around 18 months for everything to come to fruition. The season ticket campaign looks like it might be a success, especially with him wanting to tempt more children to Chester FC with the free season ticket. If some fans stay patient, they might start to see some things come to fruition very soon. The criticism towards him concerned his involvement with his previous clubs: Stockport County and Hull City. Whether that's unfounded or not is up to the individua to make their own mind up. I've always found him approachable and he has determination to bring success to CFC and I also believe he will have learned from his past mistakes |
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jun 11, 2017 18:06:41 GMT
Pure profit >>>>>>> does that mean the buying club pay the 20% VAT and the agent's fee >>>>>>> genuine question.No idea. But you get the point. He cost us nothing Surely thats down to the player who pays the agent god knows what % to get him the best deal or am I being thick |
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Post by hbomb on Jun 11, 2017 18:56:29 GMT
No idea. But you get the point. He cost us nothing Surely thats down to the player who pays the agent god knows what % to get him the best deal or am I being thick Not sure at this level but at premier league level and European level agents can get share of transfer fee, can be paid by either buying or selling club or the player. Or a combination of all the above. Hence why Riola is rumoured to have made £40 million from the Pogba transfer. Utter madness. And nice work if you can get it. |
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Post by RonD on Jun 16, 2017 8:40:10 GMT
Notice that Leicester signed Harry Maguire from Hull yesterday. Obviously Morgan and Huth are getting on a bit so they are bringing some 'young blood' in with him and also our Sam - though can't see him getting near the first team squad for a good while.
Odd that the Sam Hughes deal never made the transfer listings on the BBC football page?
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Post by thevoice on Jun 16, 2017 10:04:34 GMT
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Post by Hannibal on Jun 16, 2017 11:40:51 GMT
Surely thats down to the player who pays the agent god knows what % to get him the best deal or am I being thick Not sure at this level but at premier league level and European level agents can get share of transfer fee, can be paid by either buying or selling club or the player. Or a combination of all the above. Hence why Riola is rumoured to have made £40 million from the Pogba transfer. Utter madness. And nice work if you can get it. It was £20 million, but still obscene. |
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Post by Lobster on Jun 16, 2017 12:04:20 GMT
This is why I don't get people saying things like "we have no scouting system." If you were a Tranmere fan you'd be asking how we got Hughes from under their noses. Astles was signed from the lower leagues and has performed well for us. Lynch was from the Welsh League, Richards from Ilkeston (alright, it didn't really work out but he gave us some good moments and it was worth giving him a go). We're doing a decent job of finding emerging talent I think. Credit to Callum McIntyre, and some credit to McCarthy as well. I know he didn't get everything right last season, but he managed Hughes shrewdly on the whole. He didn't rush him into the side, let him develop in a few different positions and made him captain when the time was right. |
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Post by sqzl on Jun 16, 2017 13:49:27 GMT
This is why I don't get people saying things like "we have no scouting system." If you were a Tranmere fan you'd be asking how we got Hughes from under their noses. Astles was signed from the lower leagues and has performed well for us. Lynch was from the Welsh League, Richards from Ilkeston (alright, it didn't really work out but he gave us some good moments and it was worth giving him a go). We're doing a decent job of finding emerging talent I think. Credit to Callum McIntyre, and some credit to McCarthy as well. I know he didn't get everything right last season, but he managed Hughes shrewdly on the whole. He didn't rush him into the side, let him develop in a few different positions and made him captain when the time was right. Couldn't really agree more with this. I would add that I believe Steve Burr deserves a great deal of credit for pushing at his positional change from central midfield, where personally I don't think e would have got a move like this. Burr isn't a popular person around the deva any more, but he's more than covered his payoff with the decision to play Sam at the back. Credit to Sam for mentioning him too. |
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Post by Si on Jun 17, 2017 12:14:41 GMT
This is why I don't get people saying things like "we have no scouting system." If you were a Tranmere fan you'd be asking how we got Hughes from under their noses. Astles was signed from the lower leagues and has performed well for us. Lynch was from the Welsh League, Richards from Ilkeston (alright, it didn't really work out but he gave us some good moments and it was worth giving him a go). We're doing a decent job of finding emerging talent I think. Credit to Callum McIntyre, and some credit to McCarthy as well. I know he didn't get everything right last season, but he managed Hughes shrewdly on the whole. He didn't rush him into the side, let him develop in a few different positions and made him captain when the time was right. Couldn't really agree more with this. I would add that I believe Steve Burr deserves a great deal of credit for pushing at his positional change from central midfield, where personally I don't think e would have got a move like this. Burr isn't a popular person around the deva any more, but he's more than covered his payoff with the decision to play Sam at the back. Credit to Sam for mentioning him too. Burr didn't play Sam at the back. It was McCarthy who played him there in pre season. |
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Post by bonecrusher on Jun 18, 2017 12:04:15 GMT
Couldn't really agree more with this. I would add that I believe Steve Burr deserves a great deal of credit for pushing at his positional change from central midfield, where personally I don't think e would have got a move like this. Burr isn't a popular person around the deva any more, but he's more than covered his payoff with the decision to play Sam at the back. Credit to Sam for mentioning him too. Burr didn't play Sam at the back. It was McCarthy who played him there in pre season. Quite why Burr (experienced manager allegedly) didn't play him at the back is a mystery to me. From the first moment I saw Sam play I thought he looked the part as a centre half. There's no way Leicester would have signed him as a midfielder. |
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Post by jb on Jun 18, 2017 12:12:57 GMT
Burr brought him at midfield then dropped him and then brought him back into the team in midfield. At no time did he play him at Centre back. In fact if Burr carried on managing Hughes he'd have never reached his potential.
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Post by sqzl on Jun 18, 2017 12:28:42 GMT
Burr brought him at midfield then dropped him and then brought him back into the team in midfield. At no time did he play him at Centre back. In fact if Burr carried on managing Hughes he'd have never reached his potential. In which case it would appear I've mistaken who was in charge. I do question who made the decision to play him at the back given JM was assistant to Burr. Could it be Sharps the messiah |
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Post by tarvinblue on Jun 18, 2017 15:11:53 GMT
I don't think either of them can take the credit. Sam deserves the credit himself. Neither Burr or McCarthy maximised him until he made himself undroppable. I remember the start of last season when there was outrage because McCarthy wouldn't pick Sam. Even family members were posting their frustration. Hudson getting injured allowed Sam in and it was impossible to drop him after that - even if McCarthy did continue to play him at full back.
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Post by Hannibal on Jun 18, 2017 16:08:10 GMT
I don't think either of them can take the credit. Sam deserves the credit himself. Neither Burr or McCarthy maximised him until he made himself undroppable. I remember the start of last season when there was outrage because McCarthy wouldn't pick Sam. Even family members were posting their frustration. Hudson getting injured allowed Sam in and it was impossible to drop him after that - even if McCarthy did continue to play him at full back. Spot on. He played centre half in the run of clean sheets, but mostly played full back after Christmas only playing centre half in the 1-0 win at Southport. He also played in a couple of games when we played a back 3, but that didn't work. |
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