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Post by Anders on Mar 26, 2024 13:03:07 GMT
Halifax have no money at all regardless. Point is none of the clubs mentioned were ever anywhere near top budgets. They appointed managers who made the most of what they had and recruited well. Pete Wild fired Halifax to the play-offs the other year with Billy Waters doing all the damage after being picked up off the Torquay scrapheap. A year or two before he tore us to pieces for Cheltenham but one poor year and he was unfashionable.
In our highest ever finish since reformation we had no money whatsoever but Burr recruited well. E.g McConville.
Can you explain why Hereford & Darlo have always struggled in this league then? Footballs changed a lot since that season under burr so much more money involved even in lower non league, NLN this season is arguably one the weakest it’s been since we’ve been back down here we should be taking advantage of that. Hereford only became fully fan owned last year and are now having their best season at this level. Darlington were top just over a year ago until, like McCarthy did here, their manager lost the plot and Board like ours did make a load of terrible decisions. Poorly run regardless of the money involved. Bit like York at the moment, richest club in the league above being poorly run by the Uggla's and outperformed by literally everyone who all have smaller budgets.
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Post by weareblues on Mar 26, 2024 13:12:13 GMT
Can you explain why Hereford & Darlo have always struggled in this league then? Footballs changed a lot since that season under burr so much more money involved even in lower non league, NLN this season is arguably one the weakest it’s been since we’ve been back down here we should be taking advantage of that. Hereford only became fully fan owned last year and are now having their best season at this level. Darlington were top just over a year ago until, like McCarthy did here, their manager lost the plot and Board like ours did make a load of terrible decisions. Poorly run regardless of the money involved. Bit like York at the moment, richest club in the league above being poorly run by the Uggla's and outperformed by literally everyone who all have smaller budgets. Is that right about Hereford ? Says they’re only 50% fan owned on google Darlo have finished in the play offs once since being in this league every other season mid table and lower
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Post by Anders on Mar 26, 2024 13:13:49 GMT
Hereford only became fully fan owned last year and are now having their best season at this level. Darlington were top just over a year ago until, like McCarthy did here, their manager lost the plot and Board like ours did make a load of terrible decisions. Poorly run regardless of the money involved. Bit like York at the moment, richest club in the league above being poorly run by the Uggla's and outperformed by literally everyone who all have smaller budgets. Is that right about Hereford ? Says they’re only 50% fan owned on google Yes, sorry I meant to get to over 50%, not fully, happened last year.
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Post by agl on Mar 26, 2024 13:32:17 GMT
Every club is searching for the Holy Grail…ie punching above its weight on a tight budget. We’ve no God given right to achieve that, but we’ve just got to keep plugging away and put systems in place behind the scenes that help us achieve it. I do think the club as a whole is much stronger now than when we were promoted to NL. Fylde, promoted last season, are mid table in NL while Kidderminster (arguably promoted with a much weaker squad than ourselves) are in with a chance of staying up. Good player recruitment, imo, is key. Too often managers just go for names they’ve heard of, who have been released because they are on the way down or lost the appetite. I agree the NLN this season is weaker than it’s been for years. How we are not comfortably in the play offs is beyond me. Cal’s argument is that we over achieved last season by finishing clear in 3rd. That may be true but equally I have no doubt that our current league position is an under performance. Looking at the current NL table only two of the bottom ten teams (Kidderminster and York) are likely to go into NLN if relegated. Best case scenario if we don’t pull off an unlikely promotion is that both stay up and Scunthorpe go up in the play offs. We might well end up with Oxford City as the only relegated team coming into NLN.
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Post by milnerisgod on Mar 26, 2024 13:46:44 GMT
Up to a point. Trouble is, we've all got a limited amount of cash. You can't endlessly go back to the same people who are already digging deep and keep asking for more. Best option is to put the CFU membership to £5 a month minnimum £1 a month simply isn’t enough for where we wanna be I know you can put custom amounts each month but something needs to be done if we want to progress This is actually an idea I can get behind. I'm one of those who pays the £12 a year into the CFU, just because it's set at auto renewal from when that was all I could afford. I could now easily pay £10 per month, but through simple laziness, I've never set it up that way. I have a season ticket and spend a small fortune in the club shop, so it's not like I don't put in, but I've never even considered changing my direct debit as it's a tiny bit of a hassle! Maybe a big push at renewal time to sweep up people like me could bring a decent regular amount extra into the club. I'm not saying everyone can afford it, with the cost of living atm, but if I can, then I'm sure there are plenty of others.
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Post by weareblues on Mar 26, 2024 13:52:20 GMT
Best option is to put the CFU membership to £5 a month minnimum £1 a month simply isn’t enough for where we wanna be I know you can put custom amounts each month but something needs to be done if we want to progress This is actually an idea I can get behind. I'm one of those who pays the £12 a year into the CFU, just because it's set at auto renewal from when that was all I could afford. I could now easily pay £10 per month, but through simple laziness, I've never set it up that way. I have a season ticket and spend a small fortune in the club shop, so it's not like I don't put in, but I've never even considered changing my direct debit as it's a tiny bit of a hassle! Maybe a big push at renewal time to sweep up people like me could bring a decent regular amount extra into the club. I'm not saying everyone can afford it, with the cost of living atm, but if I can, then I'm sure there are plenty of others. It could easily work just got to give more reason and benefits to signing up to the CFU Few clubs do membership tiers could be something we could look towards doing
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Post by agl on Mar 26, 2024 14:02:19 GMT
Play off dates confirmed
Eliminator A - (5th v 6th) – Tuesday 23 April - 7.45pm Eliminator B – (4th v 7th) – Wednesday 24 April – 7.45pm Semi-Final - (2nd v Eliminator A Winner) – Saturday 27 April – 3pm Semi-Final – (3rd v Eliminator B Winner) – Sunday 28 April – 3pm Promotion Final – Saturday 4 May – 3.30pm
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Post by milnerisgod on Mar 26, 2024 14:03:31 GMT
This is actually an idea I can get behind. I'm one of those who pays the £12 a year into the CFU, just because it's set at auto renewal from when that was all I could afford. I could now easily pay £10 per month, but through simple laziness, I've never set it up that way. I have a season ticket and spend a small fortune in the club shop, so it's not like I don't put in, but I've never even considered changing my direct debit as it's a tiny bit of a hassle! Maybe a big push at renewal time to sweep up people like me could bring a decent regular amount extra into the club. I'm not saying everyone can afford it, with the cost of living atm, but if I can, then I'm sure there are plenty of others. It could easily work just got to give more reason and benefits to signing up to the CFU Few clubs do membership tiers could be something we could look towards doing The problem with membership tiers is that the people who can afford more, get more and I'm not sure that's the way to go. I know that when I first signed up to the CFU at the Royal Mail club all those years ago £12 a year hurt my meagre pockets a lot more than £120 would now. A tiered model may suggest that my £120 made me 'more of a fan' than others that struggled to find £12, which is total crap and may alienate some of the fanbase. For sure, push the benefits of the CFU and look to see where these can be improved upon, but not to the detriment of those who may not have the luxury of £10 a month, but give every last penny they do have to the cause.
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Post by leedsutd234 on Mar 26, 2024 14:25:22 GMT
Everyone knows soon as we go on a bad run the fan owned shouts come out. Then when they’re questioned they can’t give a valid solution/plan. We didn't persist with him we gave him a stupidly long contract because we thought he was good , but it was probably the assistant guy who was the brains and we went downhill when he left. I think he still had a year left when he was sacked and that cost the club a lot of dosh.
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Post by Cambrianblue on Mar 26, 2024 16:10:37 GMT
Play off dates confirmed Eliminator A - (5th v 6th) – Tuesday 23 April - 7.45pm Eliminator B – (4th v 7th) – Wednesday 24 April – 7.45pm Semi-Final - (2nd v Eliminator A Winner) – Saturday 27 April – 3pm Semi-Final – (3rd v Eliminator B Winner) – Sunday 28 April – 3pm Promotion Final – Saturday 4 May – 3.30pm I think that Saturday 4th May is only the National League. North and South finals are on Sunday 5th. www.thenationalleague.org.uk/key-dates-confirmed-ahead-of-202324-season-76562
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Post by deeseal on Mar 26, 2024 16:11:51 GMT
What's needed is for everyone to get behind the team ....
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Post by Blockhead on Mar 26, 2024 16:24:23 GMT
Play off dates confirmed Eliminator A - (5th v 6th) – Tuesday 23 April - 7.45pm Eliminator B – (4th v 7th) – Wednesday 24 April – 7.45pm Semi-Final - (2nd v Eliminator A Winner) – Saturday 27 April – 3pm Semi-Final – (3rd v Eliminator B Winner) – Sunday 28 April – 3pm Promotion Final – Saturday 4 May – 3.30pm I think that Saturday 4th May is only the National League. North and South finals are on Sunday 5th. www.thenationalleague.org.uk/key-dates-confirmed-ahead-of-202324-season-76562No. They have switched them around. The National League playoff is at Wembley and there is an ASLEF strike on Saturday, so they have moved it to the Sunday.
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Mar 27, 2024 16:19:36 GMT
It could easily work just got to give more reason and benefits to signing up to the CFU Few clubs do membership tiers could be something we could look towards doing The problem with membership tiers is that the people who can afford more, get more and I'm not sure that's the way to go. I know that when I first signed up to the CFU at the Royal Mail club all those years ago £12 a year hurt my meagre pockets a lot more than £120 would now. A tiered model may suggest that my £120 made me 'more of a fan' than others that struggled to find £12, which is total crap and may alienate some of the fanbase. For sure, push the benefits of the CFU and look to see where these can be improved upon, but not to the detriment of those who may not have the luxury of £10 a month, but give every last penny they do have to the cause. Boost the Budget is this tiered vehicle. It enables people to set up a direct debit of a level to their choosing from £5 a month, and let it roll. There are benefits to putting more in (I get a t-shirt a year for £20 a month - don't do the maths, I could get a prada shirt for that) and I know this money is ringfenced to the playing budget. chesterfc.com/chester-fc-boost-the-budget-2023-24/
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Post by agl on Mar 28, 2024 10:19:58 GMT
The problem with membership tiers is that the people who can afford more, get more and I'm not sure that's the way to go. I know that when I first signed up to the CFU at the Royal Mail club all those years ago £12 a year hurt my meagre pockets a lot more than £120 would now. A tiered model may suggest that my £120 made me 'more of a fan' than others that struggled to find £12, which is total crap and may alienate some of the fanbase. For sure, push the benefits of the CFU and look to see where these can be improved upon, but not to the detriment of those who may not have the luxury of £10 a month, but give every last penny they do have to the cause. Boost the Budget is this tiered vehicle. It enables people to set up a direct debit of a level to their choosing from £5 a month, and let it roll. There are benefits to putting more in (I get a t-shirt a year for £20 a month - don't do the maths, I could get a prada shirt for that) and I know this money is ringfenced to the playing budget. chesterfc.com/chester-fc-boost-the-budget-2023-24/ Even an England shirt.😉 £124.99.....absolute rip off!
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