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Apr 9, 2024 15:31:05 GMT
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Post by devaboyreturns on Apr 9, 2024 15:31:05 GMT
Just wanted to gather opinions on whether you would be in favour of switching from a grass pitch at the Deva Stadium to a 3G/4G.
It could be a good income stream for the club all year round alongside the KGV venue in Blacon.
People may say but we will have to rip it up if we get to the EFL but realistically, how many years off the EFL are we?
We would have to get grants approved for this and further local funding but it was just something that has crossed my mind for a while now particularly when looking at how we can add further income streams that could help the Club.
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Apr 9, 2024 15:49:49 GMT
Post by seal with it on Apr 9, 2024 15:49:49 GMT
No
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Post by Lobster on Apr 9, 2024 16:27:36 GMT
It's interesting that we've won convincingly on artificial pitches in our last two away games, yet lost dismally on our own grass pitch in between. Is it because we're training on one, or is it just coincidence?
As a traditionalist and holding on to a hope that we can one day get back in the FL, I'd rather we stuck with grass.
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Apr 9, 2024 16:30:01 GMT
Post by Curva Nord on Apr 9, 2024 16:30:01 GMT
We are on a plastic pitch far more than grass, however I believe if laid incorrectly or poorly maintained, they can cause injuries, also we might find players holding back as they don't want burns from the pitch. Plus they look shite
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Post by cestrian60 on Apr 9, 2024 16:38:27 GMT
No way, should not be allowed in National League or NLN north and south. There should be a separate league for clubs who want them called the ‘Artificial League’
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Apr 9, 2024 17:24:24 GMT
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Post by Rio Doherty on Apr 9, 2024 17:24:24 GMT
It’s a no from me. I’m a traditionalist, so I’ve always preferred grass over artificial pitches. Our pitch is one of the best natural grass surfaces around, as it’s rare you see a game called off at the Deva. We now have the King George V Sports Hub, which is proving to be a real asset for our academy, women’s teams, and local community, plus if we were to ever reach the EFL (seems a long way off, I know) then we’d have to rip up a 4G pitch if we were to ever get to that stage.
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Apr 9, 2024 18:20:46 GMT
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Post by yossergolf on Apr 9, 2024 18:20:46 GMT
Would all depend on cost v revenue return. If it cost £100k and club made £500k over a 2 year period then worth considering. 2 years being the minimum before we could ( unlikely) get in to league 2. We have to look at all ways in which we can bring revenue in to the club for the long term sustainability of the club, so it’s a maybe from me. Before anyone challenges the figures above they are only for explanation
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Post by Imperial on Apr 9, 2024 21:17:09 GMT
Absolutely not. Goals across the road & KGV down the road the market is oversaturated in the area so it’d be a huge outlay that I doubt we’d be able to recoup & shows an awful lack of ambition.
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Apr 9, 2024 23:53:11 GMT
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Post by welshrover on Apr 9, 2024 23:53:11 GMT
I thought it was a thread about mobile phone reception!!
Just briefly going back to the peado thread I asked for a link to the incriminating video and got sent to a Farcebook page giving me a story about someone trying to fly to Canada with an expired passport!
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Apr 10, 2024 1:07:54 GMT
Post by weareblues on Apr 10, 2024 1:07:54 GMT
No chance we've already got one on King George V facility & watching games on them pitches are awful.
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Post by milnerisgod on Apr 10, 2024 7:18:54 GMT
Absolutely not for me.
The only time I would even consider it, would be if somebody could show me cast iron figures that it would bring in a guaranteed £300k+ per season, straight into the club's coffers. Even then I'd be reluctant to change.
Football should be played on grass.
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Apr 10, 2024 11:31:37 GMT
Post by catfordbags on Apr 10, 2024 11:31:37 GMT
Am I missing something ? ..... Surely the revenue from a 4g at the Deva would be exactly the same as the KGV ?
+agreed - saturated market - KGV, Blacon High, Deeside x 2, Goals, County Officers x 2, Kings school and at least three in the Port.
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Apr 10, 2024 17:55:24 GMT
Post by Suomen Sininen on Apr 10, 2024 17:55:24 GMT
I thought it was a thread about mobile phone reception!! Just briefly going back to the peado thread I asked for a link to the incriminating video and got sent to a Farcebook page giving me a story about someone trying to fly to Canada with an expired passport! Did Canadian Border force let them in?
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Post by southernblue on Apr 10, 2024 18:38:58 GMT
Football should be played on grass.
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Post by yossergolf on Apr 10, 2024 21:17:16 GMT
It’s a no from me. I’m a traditionalist, so I’ve always preferred grass over artificial pitches. Our pitch is one of the best natural grass surfaces around, as it’s rare you see a game called off at the Deva. We now have the King George V Sports Hub, which is proving to be a real asset for our academy, women’s teams, and local community, plus if we were to ever reach the EFL (seems a long way off, I know) then we’d have to rip up a 4G pitch if we were to ever get to that stage. Rio, you probably know better than me but the football club does not get any revenue from the KGV as it is the Community Trust and totally separate
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Apr 10, 2024 22:04:42 GMT
Post by Rio Doherty on Apr 10, 2024 22:04:42 GMT
It’s a no from me. I’m a traditionalist, so I’ve always preferred grass over artificial pitches. Our pitch is one of the best natural grass surfaces around, as it’s rare you see a game called off at the Deva. We now have the King George V Sports Hub, which is proving to be a real asset for our academy, women’s teams, and local community, plus if we were to ever reach the EFL (seems a long way off, I know) then we’d have to rip up a 4G pitch if we were to ever get to that stage. Rio, you probably know better than me but the football club does not get any revenue from the KGV as it is the Community Trust and totally separate Correct.
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Apr 11, 2024 9:38:53 GMT
Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Apr 11, 2024 9:38:53 GMT
It’s a no from me. I’m a traditionalist, so I’ve always preferred grass over artificial pitches. Our pitch is one of the best natural grass surfaces around, as it’s rare you see a game called off at the Deva. We now have the King George V Sports Hub, which is proving to be a real asset for our academy, women’s teams, and local community, plus if we were to ever reach the EFL (seems a long way off, I know) then we’d have to rip up a 4G pitch if we were to ever get to that stage. Rio, you probably know better than me but the football club does not get any revenue from the KGV as it is the Community Trust and totally separate Big benefits though. Training costs, academy training and game costs all massively reduced. The Community Trust give added value to the club via a lot of other things also I'm sure.
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Apr 11, 2024 18:14:17 GMT
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Post by Al on Apr 11, 2024 18:14:17 GMT
Anything that benefits the club with extra income would be a yes from me
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Apr 12, 2024 9:10:02 GMT
Post by TheatreOfHate on Apr 12, 2024 9:10:02 GMT
Personally think they are brilliant for clubs that don't get many through the turnstiles to keep a side at a relatively decent level ie Nantwich. But saying that I hate to watch a game on them and wouldn't want Chester to have one. Football in the purest form is played on grass and no artificial surface will ever compare. Plus the fact we have one of the finest pitches in lower league football, why would you want to give that up.
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Post by paddyseal on Apr 12, 2024 11:30:56 GMT
i have just got out of chokey a few months ago and my aunt has given me a new phone which has 5G, surely we can afford a 5G pitch if Aunt Jenny can, she's in her 60's!
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Apr 17, 2024 12:47:50 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2024 12:47:50 GMT
Everyone saying No 100% never played football at any level. Modern day football at lower levels is dominated by 4g pitches and clubs use it for good income. Also nailed on its mostly the older generation saying no. SHOCK
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Apr 17, 2024 13:10:47 GMT
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Post by Rio Doherty on Apr 17, 2024 13:10:47 GMT
Everyone saying No 100% never played football at any level. Modern day football at lower levels is dominated by 4g pitches and clubs use it for good income. Also nailed on its mostly the older generation saying no. SHOCK I played in goal for Newton Athletic through the lower age groups, and was in a seven-a-side league at uni for a couple of years so I‘ve trained/played on 4G pitches tonnes of times thank you very much. Prefer grass all day, any day.
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Apr 17, 2024 13:19:05 GMT
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Post by Al on Apr 17, 2024 13:19:05 GMT
Having an artificial pitch could increase our revenue by 100-200k per season.
Could be the difference between National League North or sustainable National League football..
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Apr 17, 2024 13:27:10 GMT
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Post by yoshimitsu on Apr 17, 2024 13:27:10 GMT
Having an artificial pitch could increase our revenue by 100-200k per season. Could be the difference between National League North or sustainable National League football.. We can’t install a 4G pitch because if we do we’ve basically wasted a lot of money and buying a new lawnmower. Let’s get our moneys worth out of that first. About 20years should do it.
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Apr 17, 2024 13:42:04 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2024 13:42:04 GMT
Everyone saying No 100% never played football at any level. Modern day football at lower levels is dominated by 4g pitches and clubs use it for good income. Also nailed on its mostly the older generation saying no. SHOCK I played in goal for Newton Athletic through the lower age groups, and was in a seven-a-side league at uni for a couple of years so I‘ve trained/played on 4G pitches tonnes of times thank you very much. Prefer grass all day, any day. So you have just agreed that a 4G type of pitch is very common these days? Up and coming players spend the majority of there youth career playing on these pitches, grass pitches are being left behind because i'm guessing they are harder to maintain, and bring in less income. You may prefer to play on a grass pitch, but there not building many elsewhere compared to 4G!
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Apr 17, 2024 15:27:53 GMT
Post by Rio Doherty on Apr 17, 2024 15:27:53 GMT
I played in goal for Newton Athletic through the lower age groups, and was in a seven-a-side league at uni for a couple of years so I‘ve trained/played on 4G pitches tonnes of times thank you very much. Prefer grass all day, any day. So you have just agreed that a 4G type of pitch is very common these days? Up and coming players spend the majority of their youth career playing on these pitches, grass pitches are being left behind because i'm guessing they are harder to maintain, and bring in less income. You may prefer to play on a grass pitch, but they’re not building many elsewhere compared to 4G! I never denied that artificial pitches are common. It’s just that I’d hate the thought of us ripping up our excellent pitch at the Deva to replace it with a 4G.
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Apr 17, 2024 15:43:04 GMT
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Post by devadiva on Apr 17, 2024 15:43:04 GMT
Is it harder or easier to make a plastic pitch shorter and narrower than a grass one? 😉
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Apr 17, 2024 15:55:11 GMT
Post by Curva Nord on Apr 17, 2024 15:55:11 GMT
Having an artificial pitch could increase our revenue by 100-200k per season. Could be the difference between National League North or sustainable National League football.. Where are you getting that from?
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