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Post by waggoner on Apr 16, 2024 8:46:51 GMT
We didn't form a new club we reformed the old one same club just in a different, more sustainable form that's the way I and quite a few others look at it, you look at it how you want. What we have is a football club representing the city of Chester playing at the same ground with the same supporters all wanting to see the club play at the highest possible level I know that. It’s the people who think we have a god given right to be a football league club. We started again from scratch. People need to realise that. You come across as rather obsessed TBH. My thinking is this; You want everyone to buy into this new club shit. Because we 'Old Club people' have ambition and a dream to get into EFL one day. People like you are not helpful at all. Perhaps the people who still regard it as the same club should just fuck off and leave you and your 600 mates to support the 'new club' Same ground, same City, same fans same name (prior to the 1980s) same colours, same DNA SAME CLUB. Time for you and your 100% fan owned mates to get a grip and look at other ways because it's going to get us any further. We have stalled and we are slowly getting left behind Like FCUM have been. We are stuck where we are and people like you and your existence and survivalist values are going to erode the fanbase This notion that we would survive in NL is a pipedream. 90% of the clubs at that level are FT clubs paying FT wages. Nobody will sign for us on a 1 year contract playing at that level on the wages we can afford. The simple fact is that we cannot afford to get promoted as a fully fan owned entity. We are clinging on the complete at this level. This ''we are happy to own our own club stuff'' stinks of acceptance of where we are |
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Post by Moltisanti on Apr 16, 2024 8:53:09 GMT
I know that. It’s the people who think we have a god given right to be a football league club. We started again from scratch. People need to realise that. You come across as rather obsessed TBH. My thinking is this; You want everyone to buy into this new club shit. Because we 'Old Club people' have ambition and a dream to get into EFL one day. People like you are not helpful at all. Perhaps the people who still regard it as the same club should just fuck off and leave you and your 600 mates to support the 'new club' Same ground, same City, same fans same name (prior to the 1980s) same colours, same DNA SAME CLUB. Time for you and your 100% fan owned mates to get a grip and look at other ways because it's going to get us any further. We have stalled and we are slowly getting left behind Like FCUM have been. We are stuck where we are and people like you and your existence and survivalist values are going to erode the fanbase This notion that we would survive in NL is a pipedream. 90% of the clubs at that level are FT clubs paying FT wages. Nobody will sign for us on a 1 year contract playing at that level on the wages we can afford. The simple fact is that we cannot afford to get promoted as a fully fan owned entity. We are clinging on the complete at this level. This ''we are happy to own our own club stuff'' stinks of acceptance of where we are . If you’ve got such an issue with the new club nobody is forcing you to go. If you even go that is. Maybe stay at home on a Saturday and watch old videos of Chester City? 600 mates? 2,000 plus every home game. Are you or have you ever been a CFU member? |
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Post by yoshimitsu on Apr 16, 2024 9:00:35 GMT
I know that. It’s the people who think we have a god given right to be a football league club. We started again from scratch. People need to realise that. You come across as rather obsessed TBH. My thinking is this; You want everyone to buy into this new club shit. Because we 'Old Club people' have ambition and a dream to get into EFL one day. People like you are not helpful at all. Perhaps the people who still regard it as the same club should just fuck off and leave you and your 600 mates to support the 'new club' Same ground, same City, same fans same name (prior to the 1980s) same colours, same DNA SAME CLUB. Time for you and your 100% fan owned mates to get a grip and look at other ways because it's going to get us any further. We have stalled and we are slowly getting left behind Like FCUM have been. We are stuck where we are and people like you and your existence and survivalist values are going to erode the fanbase This notion that we would survive in NL is a pipedream. 90% of the clubs at that level are FT clubs paying FT wages. Nobody will sign for us on a 1 year contract playing at that level on the wages we can afford. The simple fact is that we cannot afford to get promoted as a fully fan owned entity. We are clinging on the complete at this level. This ''we are happy to own our own club stuff'' stinks of acceptance of where we are Some very illogical arguments and wrong statements in all that. I agree though that playing in the league above will be hard work. I think everyone can see that. Doesn’t mean we won’t give it a go. So what if we go up and come back down? Facing up to that reality is not accepting us as being mediocre or not wanting us to do well. But, the single main thing that some people seem to forget, is that there is no person or group waiting in the wings to take over. I am confused as to why people going on about that. Wanting there to be is someone is just dreaming. If this magic person does appear I’m sure we’ll look into it sensibly. |
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Post by jamieablock on Apr 16, 2024 9:09:51 GMT
You come across as rather obsessed TBH. My thinking is this; You want everyone to buy into this new club shit. Because we 'Old Club people' have ambition and a dream to get into EFL one day. People like you are not helpful at all. Perhaps the people who still regard it as the same club should just fuck off and leave you and your 600 mates to support the 'new club' Same ground, same City, same fans same name (prior to the 1980s) same colours, same DNA SAME CLUB. Time for you and your 100% fan owned mates to get a grip and look at other ways because it's going to get us any further. We have stalled and we are slowly getting left behind Like FCUM have been. We are stuck where we are and people like you and your existence and survivalist values are going to erode the fanbase This notion that we would survive in NL is a pipedream. 90% of the clubs at that level are FT clubs paying FT wages. Nobody will sign for us on a 1 year contract playing at that level on the wages we can afford. The simple fact is that we cannot afford to get promoted as a fully fan owned entity. We are clinging on the complete at this level. This ''we are happy to own our own club stuff'' stinks of acceptance of where we are Some very illogical arguments and wrong statements in all that. I agree though that playing in the league above will be hard work. I think everyone can see that. Doesn’t mean we won’t give it a go. So what if we go up and come back down? Facing up to that reality is not accepting us as being mediocre or not wanting us to do well. But, the single main thing that some people seem to forget, is that there is no person or group waiting in the wings to take over. I am confused as to why people going on about that. Wanting there to be is someone is just dreaming. If this magic person does appear I’m sure we’ll look into it sensibly. Would rather go up, have a go and get relegated than sit in this shot league 100% |
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Post by Rimmer on Apr 16, 2024 9:11:54 GMT
Some very illogical arguments and wrong statements in all that. I agree though that playing in the league above will be hard work. I think everyone can see that. Doesn’t mean we won’t give it a go. So what if we go up and come back down? Facing up to that reality is not accepting us as being mediocre or not wanting us to do well. But, the single main thing that some people seem to forget, is that there is no person or group waiting in the wings to take over. I am confused as to why people going on about that. Wanting there to be is someone is just dreaming. If this magic person does appear I’m sure we’ll look into it sensibly. Would rather go up, have a go and get relegated than sit in this shot league 100% |
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Post by Rimmer on Apr 16, 2024 9:13:13 GMT
Most definitely
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Post by Si on Apr 16, 2024 9:24:31 GMT
The most depressing thing is that until the football starts again in August we've got a full summer of these tedious discussions on here!
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Post by theshed1 on Apr 16, 2024 9:29:52 GMT
The most depressing thing is that until the football starts again in August we've got a full summer of these tedious discussions on here! This season isn't over yet Si well not until 9.45 tonight |
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Post by yoshimitsu on Apr 16, 2024 9:34:30 GMT
The most depressing thing is that until the football starts again in August we've got a full summer of these tedious discussions on here! This season isn't over yet Si well not until 9.45 tonight Can you imagine if Banbury beat Boston?!?!! |
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Post by lincolnexile on Apr 16, 2024 9:44:08 GMT
This season isn't over yet Si well not until 9.45 tonight Can you imagine if Banbury beat Boston?!?!! Then all we'll need is for South Shields and Spennymoor to both lose at home to Southport and Kings Lynn, and Hereford and Boston to draw. Then of course we'd need to win at home to Darlington. The way this seasons going it wouldn't surprise me at all if all the results went our way and then we failed to beat Darlo. |
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Post by yoshimitsu on Apr 16, 2024 9:51:43 GMT
Can you imagine if Banbury beat Boston?!?!! Then all we'll need is for South Shields and Spennymoor to both lose at home to Southport and Kings Lynn, and Hereford and Boston to draw. Then of course we'd need to win at home to Darlington. The way this seasons going it wouldn't surprise me at all if all the results went our way and then we failed to beat Darlo. Proper Chester that would be. |
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Post by noddy on Apr 16, 2024 10:39:00 GMT
The most depressing thing is that until the football starts again in August we've got a full summer of these tedious discussions on here! Lets hope it not as tedious as the last two seasons home performances. If it is, give me these same old discussions anyday. |
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Post by paddyseal on Apr 16, 2024 10:53:22 GMT
i still recon giving Russ Abbott a ring would be worth a shout.
you never know until you ask
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Post by leedsutd234 on Apr 16, 2024 11:17:45 GMT
It wasn’t a shout and if it had been it wouldn’t have been a good one. The only 007 we're likely to see is in the win draw loss column 🤣 Yes at home! |
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Post by waggoner on Apr 16, 2024 12:33:57 GMT
You come across as rather obsessed TBH. My thinking is this; You want everyone to buy into this new club shit. Because we 'Old Club people' have ambition and a dream to get into EFL one day. People like you are not helpful at all. Perhaps the people who still regard it as the same club should just fuck off and leave you and your 600 mates to support the 'new club' Same ground, same City, same fans same name (prior to the 1980s) same colours, same DNA SAME CLUB. Time for you and your 100% fan owned mates to get a grip and look at other ways because it's going to get us any further. We have stalled and we are slowly getting left behind Like FCUM have been. We are stuck where we are and people like you and your existence and survivalist values are going to erode the fanbase This notion that we would survive in NL is a pipedream. 90% of the clubs at that level are FT clubs paying FT wages. Nobody will sign for us on a 1 year contract playing at that level on the wages we can afford. The simple fact is that we cannot afford to get promoted as a fully fan owned entity. We are clinging on the complete at this level. This ''we are happy to own our own club stuff'' stinks of acceptance of where we are . If you’ve got such an issue with the new club nobody is forcing you to go. If you even go that is. Maybe stay at home on a Saturday and watch old videos of Chester City? 600 mates? 2,000 plus every home game. Are you or have you ever been a CFU member? I have supported Chester since 1964. I go to most home games and some away when not working. Yes I have been in the CFU in the past but gave up with it ages ago because there are too many people like ypou with your strange ideas in it. The 600 I refer to are the like minded people like you who want to kill all things Chester City because it's offensive to your weird agenda. So you think that 2000 believe that it is a new club? Do you think that every fan thinks 100% fan owned is the way forwards? Do you think that everyone has your ideals? |
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Post by Moltisanti on Apr 16, 2024 12:36:52 GMT
. If you’ve got such an issue with the new club nobody is forcing you to go. If you even go that is. Maybe stay at home on a Saturday and watch old videos of Chester City? 600 mates? 2,000 plus every home game. Are you or have you ever been a CFU member? I have supported Chester since 1964. I go to most home games and some away when not working. Yes I have been in the CFU in the past but gave up with it ages ago because there are too many people like ypou with your strange ideas in it. The 600 I refer to are the like minded people like you who want to kill all things Chester City because it's offensive to your weird agenda. So you think that 2000 believe that it is a new club? Do you think that every fan thinks 100% fan owned is the way forwards? Do you think that everyone has your ideals? So you’re not a member and are moaning about being stuck in the NLN? 😂😂😂😂 Like me moaning about not winning the lottery when I’m not playing it. They can not think it’s a new club all they like but it’s a FACT that it is. Literally. |
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Post by Si on Apr 16, 2024 12:42:38 GMT
Lads, it's a football club in Chester, move on!
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Post by waggoner on Apr 16, 2024 12:47:00 GMT
I have supported Chester since 1964. I go to most home games and some away when not working. Yes I have been in the CFU in the past but gave up with it ages ago because there are too many people like ypou with your strange ideas in it. The 600 I refer to are the like minded people like you who want to kill all things Chester City because it's offensive to your weird agenda. So you think that 2000 believe that it is a new club? Do you think that every fan thinks 100% fan owned is the way forwards? Do you think that everyone has your ideals? So you’re not a member and are moaning about being stuck in the NLN? 😂😂😂😂 Like me moaning about not winning the lottery when I’m not playing it. They can not think it’s a new club all they like but it’s a FACT that it is. Literally. So anyone not in the CFU is not contributing? We are stuck in this league because of the CFU not because I think they are crap but because their model and policies are just not moving the Club forwards and without shoving their hands deeper into the same pockets to boost the budget (including mine as a non CFU member I still put £20 pm into squad builder) cannot keep going to the same people every year to bail the budget out |
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Post by Moltisanti on Apr 16, 2024 13:02:36 GMT
So you’re not a member and are moaning about being stuck in the NLN? 😂😂😂😂 Like me moaning about not winning the lottery when I’m not playing it. They can not think it’s a new club all they like but it’s a FACT that it is. Literally. So anyone not in the CFU is not contributing? We are stuck in this league because of the CFU not because I think they are crap but because their model and policies are just not moving the Club forwards and without shoving their hands deeper into the same pockets to boost the budget (including mine as a non CFU member I still put £20 pm into squad builder) cannot keep going to the same people every year to bail the budget out Why don’t you come up with some ideas to help the people that work hard to run the football club then? Rather than come on Deva Chat to slag them off? I’m sure they’ll be willing to listen to you? Contact some local millionaires maybe? |
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Post by dc2cfc on Apr 16, 2024 13:07:59 GMT
I think the debate between Chester City/Chester FC/Non-League/Football League will always be there,
Ultimately, i've watched the club in the Conference then League Two, then back throughout the Non-League Pyramid as many others have. Each fan will have joined the journey along the way at different period of everyones lives.
Yes some of us have seen the good, bad and ugly in whatever division we've been in the past. That is in the history and memory books as it is for every team out there.
I look at Man United for an example, every supporter/ex player/pundit all they seem to talk about is Matt Busby, Sir Alex Ferguson, Class of 92, Treble 99 etc. As sad as it seems for them, they've never moved on. There are still clinging onto a past relationship that might reignite again when it never will.
Yes we've all had some good memories and great games, but we need to think forward and plan ahead. A 5 year plan?
What we are doing off the pitch at present has actually put us in a more stable and progressive position than we were in the National League under various managers. KGV/Commercial Activity/Financial Transparency/Pathway for Younger Players/Growth in Attendance for Younger Fans
Yes recruitment/tactics/results/injuries haven't gone our way this season, but come August there will be another season to get started on. I would like to think we'll be better prepared next season to be at the top end of league.
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Post by Imperial on Apr 16, 2024 13:10:32 GMT
So you’re not a member and are moaning about being stuck in the NLN? 😂😂😂😂 Like me moaning about not winning the lottery when I’m not playing it. They can not think it’s a new club all they like but it’s a FACT that it is. Literally. So anyone not in the CFU is not contributing? We are stuck in this league because of the CFU not because I think they are crap but because their model and policies are just not moving the Club forwards and without shoving their hands deeper into the same pockets to boost the budget (including mine as a non CFU member I still put £20 pm into squad builder) cannot keep going to the same people every year to bail the budget out So who SHOULD we be going to? As far as I’m aware the only people prepared to fund the club are the supporters. This is why you’re having this daft argument, because you’re reminiscing about the days when a local businessman could (& would) fund his local club & see some reasonable success. That might have been possible with the old club but it isn’t likely with the club we’ve got now. If someone does offer to fund the club then great but moaning about it constantly isn’t going to make it happen. It’s like sitting at home complaining about winning the lottery, no harm in dreaming but you can’t plan your financial future around it. |
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Post by yoshimitsu on Apr 16, 2024 13:11:14 GMT
So you’re not a member and are moaning about being stuck in the NLN? 😂😂😂😂 Like me moaning about not winning the lottery when I’m not playing it. They can not think it’s a new club all they like but it’s a FACT that it is. Literally. So anyone not in the CFU is not contributing? We are stuck in this league because of the CFU not because I think they are crap but because their model and policies are just not moving the Club forwards and without shoving their hands deeper into the same pockets to boost the budget (including mine as a non CFU member I still put £20 pm into squad builder) cannot keep going to the same people every year to bail the budget out This argument is where you lose any sympathy or consideration that you are of sound mind. Are you trying to wind people up? The CFU are the SOLE reason that there is a Chester Football Club for you to support. You appear to be under the delusion that the faceless people that make up the board of the CFU are working to hold us back by remaining a fan owned club. The situation however is very simple. We remain a fan owned club (with all its limitations) precisely because no one has come to us with a sound business plan regarding a take over. Were such an offer to be made I’m sure there’d be a vote on it. I am sure the board would be happy to hear about your ideas of generating money for the club or links to wealthy individuals with an interest in investing in a club with minimal assets. |
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Apr 16, 2024 13:13:18 GMT
Very strange thread this. Almost like it’s been started to move the conversation away from other current topics. Move on the conversation? Are you Matt Le Tissier? Have you been vaccinated? |
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Apr 16, 2024 13:18:18 GMT
So anyone not in the CFU is not contributing? We are stuck in this league because of the CFU not because I think they are crap but because their model and policies are just not moving the Club forwards and without shoving their hands deeper into the same pockets to boost the budget (including mine as a non CFU member I still put £20 pm into squad builder) cannot keep going to the same people every year to bail the budget out So who SHOULD we be going to? As far as I’m aware the only people prepared to fund the club are the supporters. This is why you’re having this daft argument, because you’re reminiscing about the days when a local businessman could (& would) fund his local club & see some reasonable success. That might have been possible with the old club but it isn’t likely with the club we’ve got now. If someone does offer to fund the club then great but moaning about it constantly isn’t going to make it happen. It’s like sitting at home complaining about winning the lottery, no harm in dreaming but you can’t plan your financial future around it. Exactly this. This thread was a tongue in cheek attempt to make this point* *or was it to distract from the fact that aliens had landed in the cow field / Stuart Murphy beach club behind the West Stand and the earth is flat eh btb? |
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Post by waggoner on Apr 16, 2024 13:36:31 GMT
So anyone not in the CFU is not contributing? We are stuck in this league because of the CFU not because I think they are crap but because their model and policies are just not moving the Club forwards and without shoving their hands deeper into the same pockets to boost the budget (including mine as a non CFU member I still put £20 pm into squad builder) cannot keep going to the same people every year to bail the budget out Why don’t you come up with some ideas to help the people that work hard to run the football club then? Rather than come on Deva Chat to slag them off? I’m sure they’ll be willing to listen to you? Contact some local millionaires maybe? It's not my job to contact anyone that's the job of the people who run it. I have already come up with an idea but you fail to take notice. Change the model and bring someone on board with some money and some ambition for a change. Most of us want to progress not tread watch existing |
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Post by Imperial on Apr 16, 2024 13:47:31 GMT
Why don’t you come up with some ideas to help the people that work hard to run the football club then? Rather than come on Deva Chat to slag them off? I’m sure they’ll be willing to listen to you? Contact some local millionaires maybe? It's not my job to contact anyone that's the job of the people who run it. I have already come up with an idea but you fail to take notice. Change the model and bring someone on board with some money and some ambition for a change. Most of us want to progress not tread watch existing 😂😂😂 |
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Post by yoshimitsu on Apr 16, 2024 13:53:32 GMT
Why don’t you come up with some ideas to help the people that work hard to run the football club then? Rather than come on Deva Chat to slag them off? I’m sure they’ll be willing to listen to you? Contact some local millionaires maybe? It's not my job to contact anyone that's the job of the people who run it. I have already come up with an idea but you fail to take notice. Change the model and bring someone on board with some money and some ambition for a change. Most of us want to progress not tread watch existing Haha! You win. This is a definite wind up now. Good work sir/madam! |
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Post by Moltisanti on Apr 16, 2024 13:55:29 GMT
Why don’t you come up with some ideas to help the people that work hard to run the football club then? Rather than come on Deva Chat to slag them off? I’m sure they’ll be willing to listen to you? Contact some local millionaires maybe? It's not my job to contact anyone that's the job of the people who run it. I have already come up with an idea but you fail to take notice. Change the model and bring someone on board with some money and some ambition for a change. Most of us want to progress not tread watch existing I give up. Try to engage your brain in future before you type. Have a pleasant Tuesday. |
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Post by blaconblues on Apr 16, 2024 14:07:42 GMT
As with other threads, I don't think anybody would turn down a local benefactor with a load of spare readies to drive us up into the Football League again. Any ideas of who would be interested? Duke of Westminster - already invested in the KGV through his charitable arm, maybe he fancies selling a couple of his Mayfair buildings, changing our kit to yellow and green and getting his chauffer driven Roller over to Needham Market next October? Chris Larson / Leap 76 - put his money where his turkey teeth are already in sponsoring the stadium naming rights. Drives around Blacon in a flash Lambourghini so obviously has the disposable income? Winners breed winners. Tony Durkin / QHC - always wanted to own Chester City, certainly has a few quid but has been quiet last few years. Stuart Murphy - philanthropist, owner of wedding cars and bigger picture seer. Maybe the Ric Flair lookalike will return to banish all of our previous misconceptions with a brilliant financial plan and a dream in his heart? Terry Smith - made a few quid in the states on some radio thing, his old man is/was minted, maybe learned his lesson from last time. Feels like he owes us one and misses the zoo? I'm struggling now, any more? Just seen we're looking for a new stadium sponsor. The Leap76 owner must be to busy driving his hire purchase motor around Hatton Road. Never helped his community once him. |
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Post by Al on Apr 16, 2024 14:09:59 GMT
Don't even get the point of this, the only "investment" coming in is from the existing revenue streams and boost the budget
Best to maximise our existing income streams, work to get more sponsors and local businesses involved in the club.
And now it seems Leap have leaped away from the club for the 24/25 season
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