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Post by tooth on Jun 7, 2024 22:08:32 GMT
It’s a glorified training exercise before a big tournament that we are rightly favourites for. No one wants to be injured simple as that. If you watched that game you’d see that no one could be arsed, that’s all you need to take from that game maybe but saying England should be favourites whats that based on they are not getting a penny of my money certainly not at 3 to 1 if they were 5 to 1 maybe but theres better value elsewhere
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Post by Lobster on Jun 7, 2024 22:26:58 GMT
It’s a glorified training exercise before a big tournament that we are rightly favourites for. No one wants to be injured simple as that. If you watched that game you’d see that no one could be arsed, that’s all you need to take from that game maybe but saying England should be favourites whats that based on they are not getting a penny of my money certainly not at 3 to 1 It's based on bookies' liabilities. People bet on what they would like to happen. You're never going to get a fair price on England because bookies shorten their odds due to how much they would have to pay out if they won.
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Post by tooth on Jun 7, 2024 22:42:53 GMT
maybe but saying England should be favourites whats that based on they are not getting a penny of my money certainly not at 3 to 1 It's based on bookies' liabilities. People bet on what they would like to happen. You're never going to get a fair price on England because bookies shorten their odds due to how much they would have to pay out if they won. thats fair enough if i can get a decent price i will back england but not at these odds currently ive had a little poke on spain
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Post by theshed1 on Jun 8, 2024 8:32:28 GMT
It's based on bookies' liabilities. People bet on what they would like to happen. You're never going to get a fair price on England because bookies shorten their odds due to how much they would have to pay out if they won. thats fair enough if i can get a decent price i will back england but not at these odds currently ive had a little poke on spain If last nights performance is anything to go by 100/1 would be a waste of money absolute shite
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Post by Lobster on Jun 13, 2024 14:52:22 GMT
Thought we might as well make this into a Euros thread, since it starts tomorrow.
Any thoughts on who will win it? Early exits? Surprise packages?
Portugal look like they've got a pretty easy route to the latter stages. Germany should be strong in their home country even if they've not been great in recent years. Never sure about France, great players but is there a team there?
Surprised how many people really seem to think England can win it, including Opta Stats. It's barely crossed my mind.
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Post by league2 on Jun 13, 2024 15:02:27 GMT
Not sure we will be strong enough at the back to win it, we've deffo got the players going forward though. just need to get out of the group comfortably and kick on see what happens
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Post by yoshimitsu on Jun 13, 2024 15:05:38 GMT
Not sure we will be strong enough at the back to win it, we've deffo got the players going forward though. just need to get out of the group comfortably and kick on see what happens Agree with that. Think we’ll do well and get to the semis. Fancy Germany or France to win it
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Post by tooth on Jun 13, 2024 15:09:51 GMT
Fancy Spain or the Dutch to win it early exit well I'm plumping for Italy Surprise team Austria England semi final
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Post by tooth on Jun 13, 2024 15:11:35 GMT
Personally I don't get the obsession with Germany not a great team and I'm not sure on the coach either they might struggle I think
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Post by The Angry Agenda on Jun 13, 2024 15:24:03 GMT
Personally I don't get the obsession with Germany not a great team and I'm not sure on the coach either they might struggle I think Home advantage though, big thing to have as England have proved in the past.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Jun 13, 2024 15:43:36 GMT
Germany have home advantage on their side and will be eager to improve on a disappointing past few years by their standards. Can see them going far, as well as France who are stacked with quality. Spain have a very exciting squad, so if they can make it through the group of death then they could be in with a shout. We have so much quality attacking-wise, but I’m not entirely confident that Gareth Southgate knows how to accommodate them all/play them to their strengths. If he can figure that out then we have a good chance. Surprise package for me is Austria, as Ralf Rangnick is doing a fantastic job, and other than France, their group is wide open. Italy have a very tough group, so they could may well be one of the surprise teams to exit early.
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Post by theshed1 on Jun 13, 2024 17:58:06 GMT
I fancy France for this one and if England don't drastically improve on the Iceland performance then they would be my early exit team Sunday will be a defining game win well and we could kick on to the semis and beyond play like we did last week book the early flight home
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Post by Lobster on Jun 13, 2024 18:33:22 GMT
I fancy France for this one and if England don't drastically improve on the Iceland performance then they would be my early exit team Sunday will be a defining game win well and we could kick on to the semis and beyond play like we did last week book the early flight home It would be a monumental failure if England didn't get out of that group when third place will probably be enough. Need the win the group though or we'd end up probably playing Germany in the second round.
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Post by theshed1 on Jun 13, 2024 19:19:06 GMT
I fancy France for this one and if England don't drastically improve on the Iceland performance then they would be my early exit team Sunday will be a defining game win well and we could kick on to the semis and beyond play like we did last week book the early flight home It would be a monumental failure if England didn't get out of that group when third place will probably be enough. Need the win the group though or we'd end up probably playing Germany in the second round. Agree but its probably all my years of watching Chester that has made me accept the monumental failures as part of life and watching England is no different
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Post by Eddie Gray's left foot on Jun 13, 2024 20:06:21 GMT
I fancy France for this one and if England don't drastically improve on the Iceland performance then they would be my early exit team Sunday will be a defining game win well and we could kick on to the semis and beyond play like we did last week book the early flight home England are too negative to win it and will probably go out on penalties at the the Q/F or S/F.
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Post by Moltisanti on Jun 13, 2024 20:18:30 GMT
Portugal or France to win it.
England go out in the semis. Not too worried about the Iceland game. Bellingham starting will make a massive difference.
Hollands attack is embarrassingly bad. They’ll go out early I think.
Germany last 16. Hosts but their squad is bang average.
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Post by Eddie Gray's left foot on Jun 13, 2024 20:57:17 GMT
Portugal or France to win it. England go out in the semis. Not too worried about the Iceland game. Bellingham starting will make a massive difference. Hollands attack is embarrassingly bad. They’ll go out early I think. Germany last 16. Hosts but their squad is bang average. Bellingham needs to up his game for England. Only 3 goals in 28 appearances . 19 for Real Madrid in about the same number of games.
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Post by tooth on Jun 13, 2024 21:42:34 GMT
Portugal or France to win it. England go out in the semis. Not too worried about the Iceland game. Bellingham starting will make a massive difference. Hollands attack is embarrassingly bad. They’ll go out early I think. Germany last 16. Hosts but their squad is bang average. agree with you who is your outsider to do well
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Post by tooth on Jun 13, 2024 21:43:55 GMT
I fancy France for this one and if England don't drastically improve on the Iceland performance then they would be my early exit team Sunday will be a defining game win well and we could kick on to the semis and beyond play like we did last week book the early flight home It would be a monumental failure if England didn't get out of that group when third place will probably be enough. Need the win the group though or we'd end up probably playing Germany in the second round. I'd fancy this current England teams to wipe the floor with Germany
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Post by borussiachester on Jun 13, 2024 23:50:20 GMT
I’ve got England down to lose to eventual winners France in the semis, with an unspectacular Germany surprisingly making it all the way to the final thanks to home advantage and being on what appears to be the easier side of the draw.
In general, though, I’m surprised by how low the quality seems to be this time around - I barely watched the last World Cup as a sort of protest, so the Euros three years ago are my most recent proper reference point, but most nations’ squads seem to have got worse since then. I’d say the most obvious exception to this are the Netherlands, who look the strongest they’ve been in ages after several years in the wilderness. I’m interested to see how Belgium and Portugal do - both seem to be almost caught between two different eras, with some relatively inexperienced youngsters, likely to make up the core of their respective sides in the coming years, lining up alongside veterans, for whom this tournament will surely be the last.
I’m struggling to think of a ‘dark horse’ - surely neither Germany nor the Netherlands count, given how good they’ve both historically been. I agree that Austria probably look the strongest outside of the usual ‘glamour’ sides, but they’re in probably the toughest group, which could complicate matters. Honestly wouldn’t surprise me if Scotland made the knockouts, believe it or not - I don’t think they really ought to fear either Hungary or this incarnation of Switzerland. I’d keep an eye out for Serbia, too, who’ll be a good test for England in their first game, and whose striking options should at least make them entertaining to watch.
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Post by devadiva on Jun 14, 2024 7:43:25 GMT
If England are to win it they need to play to their strengths and go full “Kevin Keegan”. But that will never happen with Southgate. Quarter Final exit as usual I think.
Can’t see beyond France as winners.
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Post by Curva Nord on Jun 14, 2024 8:20:23 GMT
If England are to win it they need to play to their strengths and go full “Kevin Keegan”. But that will never happen with Southgate. Quarter Final exit as usual I think. Can’t see beyond France as winners. Last three tournament appearances have been two semis and a final. Under the 'Golden Generation' I'd have taken a QF, but I see no reason why semis or a final aren't achievable. England now actually play as a team not as a bunch of individuals. To win tournaments like this you can't go full 'Kevin Keegan' as if they score more than you, you've had it. You have to play conservative.
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Post by Lobster on Jun 14, 2024 8:26:24 GMT
If England are to win it they need to play to their strengths and go full “Kevin Keegan”. But that will never happen with Southgate. Quarter Final exit as usual I think. Can’t see beyond France as winners. What did Kevin Keegan win?
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Post by Eddie Gray's left foot on Jun 14, 2024 9:11:20 GMT
If England are to win it they need to play to their strengths and go full “Kevin Keegan”. But that will never happen with Southgate. Quarter Final exit as usual I think. Can’t see beyond France as winners. What did Kevin Keegan win? About the same as Safegate.
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Post by utb on Jun 14, 2024 12:37:50 GMT
Attack wins games, but defence wins tournaments which is why we won't win it I'm afraid. Maguire is going to be a colossal miss, he's always been excellent for England and a proper leader. Not having him will also substantially reduce our bthreat from set pieces, which has been an underrated strength of ours under Southgate.
Our attacking firepower should get us through the group stage and probably further still, but the moment we face a top all-round side we'll be out, just like the last three major tournaments.
France will win it. They've got incredible individual attacking players which guarantees you goals, but Deschamps is a conservative coach, which totally suits tournament football, it's the perfect mix. Home advantage drags Germany to the final.
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Post by Lobster on Jun 14, 2024 19:25:06 GMT
Always a sense of excitement when Scotland qualify, and then the football starts.
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Post by theshed1 on Jun 14, 2024 19:45:10 GMT
Not a fan of VAR but got to say it was the right decision re the penalty
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Post by yoshimitsu on Jun 14, 2024 19:48:18 GMT
Going to get battered here unless they make drastic changes. Accept a 3-0 and try to keep it at that.
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Post by waggoner on Jun 14, 2024 20:01:11 GMT
Going to get battered here unless they make drastic changes. Accept a 3-0 and try to keep it at that. Me, don’t give a shit about Scotland. When they used to qualify at world cups I always used to hope they did well UNTIL England got to the semis of Italia 90 and the news showed the Scottish fans cheering the Germans F@@k um! I hope they get 8 put past them
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Post by Lobster on Jun 14, 2024 20:01:29 GMT
Gotta write this one off. Four points from the other two games would probably see them through, possibly even three could.
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