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Post by borussiachester on Jun 29, 2024 18:03:28 GMT
Suppose it’s a case of what goes around, comes around after the last Euros, but what a time this is to be part-English and part-Italian. Disgraceful performance from Italy this evening - and it wouldn’t be a great surprise if England were to suffer the same fate at the hands of the Swiss in the quarters, if they can even make it there.
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Post by Lobster on Jun 29, 2024 20:32:26 GMT
If England shape up then, not for the first time, the draw has opened up perfectly for them.
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Post by tooth on Jun 29, 2024 20:33:18 GMT
Should England win tomorrow they will have to play well to beat the Swiss they looked so good on the ball but it's a poor Italian team
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Post by tooth on Jun 29, 2024 20:34:22 GMT
If England shape up then, not for the first time, the draw has opened up perfectly for them. i think the swiss might beat them should they win tomorrow
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Post by league2 on Jun 29, 2024 20:49:35 GMT
I guess you are one of our welsh supporters by calling us them .
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Post by Lobster on Jun 29, 2024 21:00:21 GMT
I guess you are one of our welsh supporters by calling us them . I just don't really see England as "us" in the same way I do with Chester.
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Post by Lobster on Jun 29, 2024 21:03:41 GMT
Italy's record in tournaments over the last 10 years must be about on par with Greece's in the 10 years before. One Euros win but sod all else.
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Post by Curva Nord on Jun 29, 2024 21:11:10 GMT
This shows VAR isn't the problem, it's how it's used.
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Post by yoshimitsu on Jun 29, 2024 21:23:15 GMT
Italy's record in tournaments over the last 10 years must be about on par with Greece's in the 10 years before. One Euros win but sod all else. I’d love England to have had Italys record in tournaments. Loads of finals and a few more world cups and a Euro. With that you can take a few years of mediocrity.
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Post by theshed1 on Jun 29, 2024 22:02:46 GMT
If that was a penalty I'm a fucking monkeys uncle
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Post by hackett on Jun 29, 2024 23:53:08 GMT
If that was a penalty I'm a fucking monkeys uncle Another VAR issue tbh. The rules have to be black and white for somebody to interfere with a game and the black and white rulebook says it is, whereas we all know it wasn't, the ref didn't give it and nobody was looking but that's the situation VAR has left us in. No VAR, no daft rules, just the odd mistake.
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Post by tooth on Jun 30, 2024 8:03:31 GMT
I guess you are one of our welsh supporters by calling us them . no im just club over country i support all home nations
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Post by Moltisanti on Jun 30, 2024 8:17:00 GMT
I guess you are one of our welsh supporters by calling us them . no im just club over country i support all home nations 😂😂
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Post by tooth on Jun 30, 2024 9:20:34 GMT
no im just club over country i support all home nations 😂😂 rather chester win than england if they do well fair enough if they don't i wont lose any sleep
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Post by Lobster on Jun 30, 2024 10:21:49 GMT
If that was a penalty I'm a fucking monkeys uncle Another VAR issue tbh. The rules have to be black and white for somebody to interfere with a game and the black and white rulebook says it is, whereas we all know it wasn't, the ref didn't give it and nobody was looking but that's the situation VAR has left us in. No VAR, no daft rules, just the odd mistake. Yeah, the woman explaining VAR on ITV is really good but there does seem to be an element of "computer says penalty" creeping in with the semi-automated technology. Don't agree with the whole "VAR isn't the problem" thing, because according to the rules, the officials got that decision right. And we've had long enough to get VAR right and it seems to be getting worse if anything.
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Post by noddy on Jun 30, 2024 14:59:06 GMT
One change only today, Mainoo for Gallagher. Not surprised, it's typical safe Southgate after all.
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Post by theshed1 on Jun 30, 2024 15:23:48 GMT
Another VAR issue tbh. The rules have to be black and white for somebody to interfere with a game and the black and white rulebook says it is, whereas we all know it wasn't, the ref didn't give it and nobody was looking but that's the situation VAR has left us in. No VAR, no daft rules, just the odd mistake. Yeah, the woman explaining VAR on ITV is really good but there does seem to be an element of "computer says penalty" creeping in with the semi-automated technology. Don't agree with the whole "VAR isn't the problem" thing, because according to the rules, the officials got that decision right. And we've had long enough to get VAR right and it seems to be getting worse if anything. She is very good but listening to her I got the impression she couldn't say anything else as she didn't want to say anything against her employer's FIFA so had to just explain the black and white of the rules I don't think she thought it was a penalty either but couldn't actually say it
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Post by Lobster on Jun 30, 2024 16:08:59 GMT
Yeah, the woman explaining VAR on ITV is really good but there does seem to be an element of "computer says penalty" creeping in with the semi-automated technology. Don't agree with the whole "VAR isn't the problem" thing, because according to the rules, the officials got that decision right. And we've had long enough to get VAR right and it seems to be getting worse if anything. She is very good but listening to her I got the impression she couldn't say anything else as she didn't want to say anything against her employer's FIFA so had to just explain the black and white of the rules I don't think she thought it was a penalty either but couldn't actually say it Yes, that's her job though, as Roy Keane would say. She stresses that she's there to explain why the refs gave the decisions they did in accordance with the laws, but the laws themselves themselves are up for debate and it's pundits and fans who shape that. Crap start from England here.
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Post by Lobster on Jun 30, 2024 16:25:59 GMT
Deserved. Slovakia have been the better side.
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Post by vandycandy on Jun 30, 2024 16:28:46 GMT
Should have Matty Williams at the back. Better than the entire England back line put together.
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Post by Lobster on Jun 30, 2024 16:32:58 GMT
I don't know if I'm just old-fashioned but why not play a left footer at left-back? Is Trippier really good enough to keep a natural left-back out the side? It's not like club football where now and again players have to fill in out of position. You can play anyone who's English!
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Post by vandycandy on Jun 30, 2024 17:11:45 GMT
That's really poor from Foden not to stay onside.
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Post by chesterken on Jun 30, 2024 17:29:15 GMT
It’s just like watching us play last season.
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Post by bluejay on Jun 30, 2024 17:30:53 GMT
Don't deserve to win this. So far the worst England have been at a tournament for a very long time. No confidence at all.
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Post by bluejay on Jun 30, 2024 17:32:07 GMT
Don't deserve to win this. So far the worst England have been at a tournament for a very long time. No confidence at all. Strangely familiar feeling
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Post by vandycandy on Jun 30, 2024 17:55:23 GMT
Southgate is the luckiest man alive!
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Post by Lobster on Jun 30, 2024 17:57:18 GMT
So lucky. Not deserved at all.
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Post by bluejay on Jun 30, 2024 17:58:10 GMT
Anyone think they'll go for it in extra time?
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Post by bluejay on Jun 30, 2024 18:08:21 GMT
Wow
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Post by tooth on Jun 30, 2024 18:25:15 GMT
Only England
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