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Post by blue4life on Jun 16, 2017 21:28:30 GMT
I've been told that no Home shirts will be sold this season, apparently we have to wait until next season now.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 7:23:36 GMT
The home shirts were a bespoke Puma kit. The original order was the only order that the club could place. This wasnt quite done right at the time.
We are left with a few larges and some childrens sizes. The club can tell you exactly what is left if you call them, you can buy them over the phone.
Hope this helps.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 7:35:55 GMT
Looked on club shop. They have adults XL and kids 10, 12 and 14.
Was actually planning on getting home shirts for this season for myself and daughter (got away and GK last season thinking that the homes would be available for a while). Frustrating.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 7:38:13 GMT
With the optimism surrounding the club this summer you'd like to think the club will capitalise on that and try and make some money
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Post by paulie on Jun 17, 2017 8:09:43 GMT
I've been told that no Home shirts will be sold this season, apparently we have to wait until next season now. Are we the only club in Britain not to be selling home shirts? Ridiculous situation to find ourselves in! |
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Post by Captain Duff on Jun 17, 2017 9:19:11 GMT
It is a disgraceful situation isn't it? But one that could so easily have been avoided had we not consistently been sold pup in who we get our kits from which has been a unending disaster from the time re reformed and the lack of Joma supplies to now the lack of Puma supplies. I suspect that more than one person is responsible over the years, but the question now to the board is have you actually learnt any lessons, because I am not hearing anything to suggest that you have?
I have consistently argued since reformation that as a fan-owned mutual we can and should do things differently. We can and should care about 12 year old kids making the kits we buy from the big multinationals in far east sweat shops. It has always been possible to have a contract to supply perfectly good kits that are made quickly to order in British factories by workers who can join a trade union and are covered by good H&S protection, and who have rapid resupply times when the club needs more stock - so why aren't these British manufacture and supply companies being used?
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Post by sqzl on Jun 17, 2017 9:26:10 GMT
It is a disgraceful situation isn't it? But one that could so easily have been avoided had we not consistently been sold pup in who we get our kits from which has been a unending disaster from the time re reformed and the lack of Joma supplies to now the lack of Puma supplies. I suspect that more than one person is responsible over the years, but the question now to the board is have you actually learnt any lessons, because I am not hearing anything to suggest that you have? I have consistently argued since reformation that as a fan-owned mutual we can and should do things differently. We can and should care about 12 year old kids making the kits we buy from the big multinationals in far east sweat shops. It has always been possible to have a contract to supply perfectly good kits that are made quickly to order in British factories by workers who can join a trade union and are covered by good H&S protection, and who have rapid resupply times when the club needs more stock - so why aren't these British manufacture and supply companies being used? The short and simple answer to this is Yes they have learnt from this. A member of staff signed up to the current kit deal for several years without the authorisation of the board, which is why they were sacked. Maguire worked his arse off to ensure we were not charged around 90k up front which would have been catastrophic for us as a club. There was a thread regarding kit deal not so long ago. There's nothing the club can do this year unless we want to lose significant funds due to the poor deal that was agreed. We ended up with about 50 player shirts that would only fit Ryan Astles which is why we had XL stock in shop too. It wasn't just merchandise that was fudged up, it was player kits. Won't expand any more as it isn't my place, but I know other people on here are also aware of the mistake. Just to add to your second point, in order to make similar profit margins by manufacturing in the UK, we would have to sell adult shirts for nearly £80, so I'd love to see how well that sits with fans. Charging less is of course an option, but then it cuts out income and would have impact on budget. Fairly sure that wouldn't go down well either. Whilst I agree sweatshops are a disgrace, it's actually keeping people fed in other countries less fortunate and whilst I would never condone it here, it would take more than us to make a stance of any impact. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 11:06:43 GMT
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Post by dmcnally on Jun 17, 2017 16:10:24 GMT
Was this mess caused by the now former employee of the club we all know about? If so, it at least gives us confidence that it hopefully won't happen again. MM saved us from this deal getting even worse, so hopefully he can sort out a better deal when we get a new home kit next summer.
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Post by hackett on Jun 18, 2017 1:29:01 GMT
So we can't sell any home shirts? One word answers please.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jun 18, 2017 5:00:40 GMT
So we can't sell any home shirts? One word answers please. Yes. |
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Post by massivefloodlights on Jun 18, 2017 10:07:24 GMT
Farcical position, absolutely farcical.
We had an official kit launch on Friday, Mike Peters (the Alarm) and other bands including school choirs playing in what was a carnival atmosphere.
Over 200 shirts sold in 4 hours. Result.
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Post by Lobster on Jun 18, 2017 10:48:25 GMT
It is pretty ridiculous. In fact, problems with kits seem to have plagued us for years. Not long ago we ended up with a shirt with no stripes because of some sort of cock up, and I can remember loads of seasons over the last 10-15 years when we've not managed to make kits available for sale at the start of the season, if at all. Just seems a very simple issue and an easy revenue stream for the club, and something most clubs manage with the minimum of fuss, yet we continually make a pig's ear of it.
You do wonder what on earth that club official was thinking when they apparently agreed to such a crazy deal, and how they were allowed to do it. At least some quick intervention from Maguire and co. minimised the problem, I suppose.
I agree with Captain Duff that it would be nice if we could avoid sweatshop merchants like Puma and use an British company with better ethics. Besides, the current home kit is crap in my opinion. I don't often buy shirts - I'm still wearing the one from the 2010/11 season - but I would be more likely to if we dared to be different and used an ethical company. Maybe something worth polling the fans on?
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jun 18, 2017 11:21:30 GMT
Why aren't reaching out to local t-shirt printing businesses to help us out until the comical situation passes? It's clear that the big manufacturers won't produce large scale for us because we don't sell large scale... we need to choose the supplier according to our sales. A small local business would be perfect and planning months in advance can ensure the shirts are in stock and ready for sale before the season kicks off.
I don't care if it had joma, Adidas or whatever on it. As long as it has the club crest and can have a name and number printed on the back it's all good with me.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 11:54:49 GMT
Id be very surprised if the existing supplier is used moving forward.
It is as frustrating for the volunteers in the shop as it is for us supporters, as they are constantly having to turn away people.
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Post by sqzl on Jun 18, 2017 12:26:16 GMT
Was this mess caused by the now former employee of the club we all know about? If so, it at least gives us confidence that it hopefully won't happen again. MM saved us from this deal getting even worse, so hopefully he can sort out a better deal when we get a new home kit next summer. Yes. We won't be signing a new kit contract with the current supplier no. |
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jun 18, 2017 13:00:09 GMT
Id be very surprised if the existing supplier is used moving forward. It is as frustrating for the volunteers in the shop as it is for us supporters, as they are constantly having to turn away people. Did we sign with joma exclusively or something? |
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Post by sqzl on Jun 18, 2017 15:16:58 GMT
Id be very surprised if the existing supplier is used moving forward. It is as frustrating for the volunteers in the shop as it is for us supporters, as they are constantly having to turn away people. Did we sign with joma exclusively or something? Signed a long, terrible deal that cost us through the nose. |
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Post by rcb on Jun 18, 2017 15:56:47 GMT
Never bought a Chester players shirt in my life, because I've never been a Chester player. Why not have a line of Chester fans shirts, particularly this season? At least we can make money from this.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jun 18, 2017 16:00:56 GMT
Did we sign with joma exclusively or something? Signed a long, terrible deal that cost us through the nose. Yes I know, but we should be getting a local company to knock us some shirts up. This is embarrassing! Why are we not trying to get some more shirts made? |
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Post by sqzl on Jun 18, 2017 16:10:09 GMT
Signed a long, terrible deal that cost us through the nose. Yes I know, but we should be getting a local company to knock us some shirts up. This is embarrassing! Why are we not trying to get some more shirts made? I think it's something to do with nobody willing to supply such low numbers. I suppose too if we're signed a zooma contract then we can't really get someone else to make their shirts and we wouldn't be honouring the contract should we use a new manufacturer. The cost of getting it done this season could be more than it's worth, but I agree it's farcical. Trying to attract new fans but can't even buy a home shirt, mind boggles. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 6:06:48 GMT
Signed a long, terrible deal that cost us through the nose. Yes I know, but we should be getting a local company to knock us some shirts up. This is embarrassing! Why are we not trying to get some more shirts made? Because it is a bespoke design, and the minimum order is something like 1000 from Puma. I think the idea is to change to a more flexible supplier for next season (or whenever the deal runs out, Im not sure). |
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Jun 19, 2017 8:16:20 GMT
I wanted to buy a home shirt for my daughter when I bought season tickets the other day but not got her size, only for the yellow kit. Will they not have any new ones before the season starts? Disappointing if not.
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Post by nlb17 on Jun 19, 2017 8:34:37 GMT
I wanted to buy a home shirt for my daughter when I bought season tickets the other day but not got her size, only for the yellow kit. Will they not have any new ones before the season starts? Disappointing if not. I was wanting to get one for my kid too, what a shame. I guess it will boost sales of the yellow away kit. Hopefully there will be some imaginative supporter items in the shop come the new season to make up for the lack of shirts. |
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Post by silverseal on Jun 20, 2017 12:57:47 GMT
To be fair to the Club, the Home Shirts question is not so straightforward. If I remember, we agreed at an early CFU meeting that we would only replace the home kit every two years and we later voted for a bespoke kit rather than one "off the shelf". I'm told that the minimum run for a bespoke kit is 1000 shirts and these need to be in a mix of sizes and the Club do not want to over order to avoid carrying stock they then can't sell. Most Home shirts sell in the first few weeks following launch. The current kit will be changed again next season and not many people want to but the home shirt at this stage in the cycle, so in a way its good that the Club have been able to sell most of the shirts ordered? The away kit tends to be based on a Puma stock item, which is then customised for CFC. The away kit also changes every other year but believe these sell far less then the home shirts.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jun 20, 2017 13:36:10 GMT
Let's stop being bullied by these big corporations and start to support our local businesses, the customer service will be far greater than being dictated to like we are currently.
The club should be looking for the best deal for the club, not being hamstrung by big corporations.
The reality is, bespoke design or not, they don't want to bother with little clubs like us, that's why they set their MOQ at 1000, to put us off trading with them in future, because we are small fry
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Post by sqzl on Jun 20, 2017 13:39:41 GMT
Let's stop being bullied by these big corporations and start to support our local businesses, the customer service will be far greater than being dictated to like we are currently. The club should be looking for the best deal for the club, not being hamstrung by big corporations. The reality is, bespoke design or not, they don't want to bother with little clubs like us, that's why they set their MOQ at 1000, to put us off trading with them in future, because we are small fry I agree with you, just i think the two highlighted points probably conflict which is why we do use these suppliers. Next deal that gets made, is guaranteed to be better than our current one, but that can;t happen this year as far as i'm aware so we're really all wasting out breathe. I hope we've learnt lessons from this, i think we have, and going forward we look at businesses in the area IF the price is right. |
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jun 20, 2017 13:52:35 GMT
Let's stop being bullied by these big corporations and start to support our local businesses, the customer service will be far greater than being dictated to like we are currently. The club should be looking for the best deal for the club, not being hamstrung by big corporations. The reality is, bespoke design or not, they don't want to bother with little clubs like us, that's why they set their MOQ at 1000, to put us off trading with them in future, because we are small fry I agree with you, just i think the two highlighted points probably conflict which is why we do use these suppliers. Next deal that gets made, is guaranteed to be better than our current one, but that can;t happen this year as far as i'm aware so we're really all wasting out breathe. I hope we've learnt lessons from this, i think we have, and going forward we look at businesses in the area IF the price is right. I understand that the perfect deal probably isn't out there currently, but the MOQ being set at 1000 is far more in the suppliers favour than ours. A smaller, local company would probably set their MOQ at 4 or 500 (or even less depending on their capacity) which then gives us a better grip on our stock control. As i completely agree that we shouldn't be purchasing another 1000 at this stage with a new home kit coming out next season. In the event that we do end up with overstocks, there are possibilities to get them sold, it's just we won't make the maximum profit margins, it's not the end of the world, it just means marketing have to be a bit more creative in their selling approach. |
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