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Post by devadiva on Nov 15, 2024 10:14:49 GMT
Given Kane’s recent comments, what do you think?
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Post by weareblues on Nov 15, 2024 10:21:31 GMT
Both are very similar to each other get you excited every year to be let down at the last hurdle
Would rather England win something though been way too long.
As a player however there should be no greater honour then representing your country.
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Post by Moltisanti on Nov 15, 2024 10:41:47 GMT
Said it before on here
Rather us get promoted than England win the World Cup.
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Post by bing on Nov 15, 2024 10:48:02 GMT
I think there generally is an appetite for International football, but the problem this season is the amount of it.
3 international breaks in the first 11 games of the league season is ridiculous. I'm not the least bit surprised that players are dropping like flies given the forthcoming busy Christmas schedule.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Nov 15, 2024 12:04:15 GMT
Club all day any day.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 15, 2024 12:05:37 GMT
Think the question is so different to us fans of a fan-owned non-league regional football club than it is to the likes of Kane, Palmer etc - actual players who play for top clubs and for their country.
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Post by jimianto on Nov 15, 2024 15:03:13 GMT
Club all day long
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Post by Vaughan Hall on Nov 15, 2024 16:22:21 GMT
Said it before on here Rather us get promoted than England win the World Cup. Definitely agree with this. (tho I'm welsh so it's win win for me 😉) |
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Post by vandycandy on Nov 15, 2024 16:24:13 GMT
It baffles me how Country has got 6 votes???
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Post by Imperial on Nov 15, 2024 16:34:30 GMT
It baffles me how Country has got 6 votes??? Well it was related to the Kane/England situation. In that case I think it’s an absolute disgrace that players are opting not to play for their country, it should be considered an honour. There’s been some conflation since about what fans would prefer which is a different question & trickier for me, I’ve seen Chester win four league titles, I’ve never seen England win anything. And one World Cup win in my life would do me whereas I’d want Chester to keep pushing on & building on any success. |
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Post by Lobster on Nov 15, 2024 16:38:14 GMT
It baffles me how Country has got 6 votes??? Well it was related to the Kane/England situation. In that case I think it’s an absolute disgrace that players are opting not to play for their country, it should be considered an honour. There’s been some conflation since about what fans would prefer which is a different question & trickier for me, I’ve seen Chester win four league titles, I’ve never seen England win anything. And one World Cup win in my life would do me whereas I’d want Chester to keep pushing on & building on any success. To make the situation more relatable to us, you could use the example of Angus Eve, who was regularly missing our games in the 2000 relegation season to play for Trinidad, including the crucial final game against Peterborough. He was definitely a country before club man. Was he right? |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 15, 2024 16:45:11 GMT
Well it was related to the Kane/England situation. In that case I think it’s an absolute disgrace that players are opting not to play for their country, it should be considered an honour. There’s been some conflation since about what fans would prefer which is a different question & trickier for me, I’ve seen Chester win four league titles, I’ve never seen England win anything. And one World Cup win in my life would do me whereas I’d want Chester to keep pushing on & building on any success. To make the situation more relatable to us, you could use the example of Angus Eve, who was regularly missing our games in the 2000 relegation season to play for Trinidad, including the crucial final game against Peterborough. He was definitely a country before club man. Was he right? Most capped player in our history isn’t he. Even though he only played about 12 games for us! Most of his caps were won whilst contracted to us but out on loan back in his homeland with Joe Public FC. I was mascot for that Peterborough game. |
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Post by Lobster on Nov 15, 2024 17:11:36 GMT
To make the situation more relatable to us, you could use the example of Angus Eve, who was regularly missing our games in the 2000 relegation season to play for Trinidad, including the crucial final game against Peterborough. He was definitely a country before club man. Was he right? Most capped player in our history isn’t he. Even though he only played about 12 games for us! Most of his caps were won whilst contracted to us but out on loan back in his homeland with Joe Public FC. I was mascot for that Peterborough game. There's definitely some hypocrisy and contradiction in the way people look at this situation. People use phrases like "playing well for your club is the most important thing" and "playing for your country is your highest honour" in almost the same breath. Both can't be true.
As Chester fans, I think almost all of us would rather see Chester win than our country. But as Englishmen and Welshmen, most of us probably also find it a bit annoying seeing Premier League players suddenly get "injured" when the international fixtures come round. But if had a player who was a regular starter for a small Caribbean or African nation, for example, would we be happy with them constantly going around the world, missing league games, coming back with injuries? I'd imagine not. So we're all quite selfish and guided by self-interest in how we view this.
Ian Wright made a fair point that the FA have sent out a pretty clear signal that they didn't see these games as that important by sticking with an interim manager, so can you be surprised if the players don't either? I feel like we haven't quite cottoned on to the Nations League yet. We seem to treat it like its a Mickey Mouse event, but it's very important that England win this group and don't become a second-tier European nation, as this will make it much harder to land a favourable group when major tournaments come round.
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Post by Imperial on Nov 15, 2024 20:33:01 GMT
Most capped player in our history isn’t he. Even though he only played about 12 games for us! Most of his caps were won whilst contracted to us but out on loan back in his homeland with Joe Public FC. I was mascot for that Peterborough game. There's definitely some hypocrisy and contradiction in the way people look at this situation. People use phrases like "playing well for your club is the most important thing" and "playing for your country is your highest honour" in almost the same breath. Both can't be true.
As Chester fans, I think almost all of us would rather see Chester win than our country. But as Englishmen and Welshmen, most of us probably also find it a bit annoying seeing Premier League players suddenly get "injured" when the international fixtures come round. But if had a player who was a regular starter for a small Caribbean or African nation, for example, would we be happy with them constantly going around the world, missing league games, coming back with injuries? I'd imagine not. So we're all quite selfish and guided by self-interest in how we view this.
Ian Wright made a fair point that the FA have sent out a pretty clear signal that they didn't see these games as that important by sticking with an interim manager, so can you be surprised if the players don't either? I feel like we haven't quite cottoned on to the Nations League yet. We seem to treat it like its a Mickey Mouse event, but it's very important that England win this group and don't become a second-tier European nation, as this will make it much harder to land a favourable group when major tournaments come round.
I think being chosen to represent your country should be considered more important yeah, but I get that everything’s relative & many players take it for granted. As for complaining about players going on international duty, I do understand the frustration but if you sign players from continents who play their tournaments during our season then you know what you’re getting into. |
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Post by oldsealandroadender on Nov 15, 2024 23:39:03 GMT
I remember as a ten year old watching England win the World Cup. I didn't think then that it would be the only time I would. Then I started going to watch Chester. Mediocre became the norm with some bouts of the good things in football occasionally. You've got to appreciate the highs because there an awful lot of lows to bear. (The first year i bought a season ticket we were relegated!) You always hope for successes and enjoy them when they come along.
As for club vs country I always want England to do well but I really love it when Chester do really well. (And for more of it)
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