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Post by lukeseal on Nov 16, 2024 22:10:22 GMT
If he has had the career he's had in the game and from anywhere else in the country would he still be in a job? Would the fans and the board have put up with the last 12 months?
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Post by Harry Lime on Nov 16, 2024 22:15:49 GMT
Got an agenda,have you? Every post from you just says the same thing. Repeating it endlessly doesn't make it more correct.
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Post by tooth on Nov 16, 2024 23:17:04 GMT
Got an agenda,have you? Every post from you just says the same thing. Repeating it endlessly doesn't make it more correct. he does actually have a point we have not been good enough how much longer can we give him
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Post by whitey on Nov 17, 2024 0:11:02 GMT
It's not just the results for me it's the boring style of play for the last 18 Months.
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Post by weareblues on Nov 17, 2024 0:17:45 GMT
Depends on what club it was and what their season ambitions was said numerous times he’ll no doubt do well in management he just ain’t the right man for us at the minute he’s a lot to learn
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Post by lukeseal on Nov 17, 2024 1:55:15 GMT
Got an agenda,have you? Every post from you just says the same thing. Repeating it endlessly doesn't make it more correct. good point isn't it though.
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Post by bb93 on Nov 17, 2024 6:12:50 GMT
Of course he wouldn’t. The aim this season was playoffs and we’re right there with only 16 games gone, people need to chill out
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Post by Harry Lime on Nov 17, 2024 8:40:44 GMT
Got an agenda,have you? Every post from you just says the same thing. Repeating it endlessly doesn't make it more correct. he does actually have a point we have not been good enough how much longer can we give him He does have a point. However, I don't want to hear the same voice repeat it ad infinitum. Multiple threads, multiple posts. We got the message. He isn't a lone voice.
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Post by Eddie Gray's left foot on Nov 17, 2024 8:58:21 GMT
Of course he wouldn’t. The aim this season was playoffs and we’re right there with only 16 games gone, people need to chill out But we can't score. How may Chester Nils have we had in the past 12 Calendar months?
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Post by ivawhopper on Nov 17, 2024 9:07:54 GMT
It all went a bit sausage monsters yesterday. Get behind the club and we go again midweek. Cal is doing no better or worse than our last few managers.
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Post by southernblue on Nov 17, 2024 11:02:14 GMT
Disagree, I think the fans are being just as brutal as they would any other manager. We're not even bottom half.
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Post by btb on Nov 17, 2024 12:45:26 GMT
I get the feeling that Cal has now lost a significant percentage of the fan base and it’s hard to see how he regains that support with a team that can’t score goals and his bat shit interviews every other week.
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Post by properblue87 on Nov 17, 2024 12:50:29 GMT
Absolutely agree with this. If he were from anywhere else in the country, there’s no way he’d still be in the job after the last 12 months. The results have been poor, the performances have been flat, and there’s no clear sign of improvement.
It feels like the connection to the club’s history and local ties has bought him far more time than he would’ve had otherwise. While loyalty is important, it can’t come at the expense of the club’s progress. If the board and fans really want what’s best for the club, tough decisions need to be made – sentimentality shouldn’t come before results.
The standards have to be higher than this.
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Post by kyle on Nov 17, 2024 12:53:23 GMT
What really concerns me is I feel were actually lucky to have the points we have. Take out Burke's header last week and Willoughby's wonder goal vs Scarborough and we'd be 16th.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 17, 2024 13:03:09 GMT
What really concerns me is I feel were actually lucky to have the points we have. Take out Burke's header last week and Willoughby's wonder goal vs Scarborough and we'd be 16th. Sounding a bit like Michael Owen there to be fair. If we’d have won the games we lost and drew, we’d be top of the league.
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Post by devadiva on Nov 17, 2024 13:05:27 GMT
Cal’s approach has sucked out all the fun and optimism from watching Chester. If it was a successful approach I suppose there would be a silver lining to the cloud but it isn’t.
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Post by kyle on Nov 17, 2024 13:34:56 GMT
What really concerns me is I feel were actually lucky to have the points we have. Take out Burke's header last week and Willoughby's wonder goal vs Scarborough and we'd be 16th. Sounding a bit like Michael Owen there to be fair. If we’d have won the games we lost and drew, we’d be top of the league. No, I'm pointing out that 2 late goals are the tiny thread our season is hanging by
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Post by southernblue on Nov 17, 2024 18:40:42 GMT
What really concerns me is I feel were actually lucky to have the points we have. Take out Burke's header last week and Willoughby's wonder goal vs Scarborough and we'd be 16th. If my Auntie had bollocks she'd be my uncle. We didn't lose those games because of the skill and resilience of the players who got the winners. I am sure there are also fine margins which went the other way. Three more points would put us fifth for example.
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Post by lukeseal on Nov 18, 2024 8:38:39 GMT
There's no way that if he had zero playing career and was a youth coach at say Borehamwood and then managed a team in the southern leagues to the play offs and was given the Chester job when he was, that he'd still be in a job currently.
It's either emotional ties from the board or they don't want to admit their error and admit we've lost three seasons and a ton of money.
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Post by milnerisgod on Nov 18, 2024 9:03:15 GMT
There's no way that if he had zero playing career and was a youth coach at say Borehamwood and then managed a team in the southern leagues to the play offs and was given the Chester job when he was, that he'd still be in a job currently. It's either emotional ties from the board or they don't want to admit their error and admit we've lost three seasons and a ton of money. No way he'd still be in a job??? I would hazard a guess that Cal's remit for the season was to make the play-offs. We can all argue about how poor the results have been, and how tedious a lot of the performances have been, but we are currently 3 places and 2 points off the Play-Offs, with a game or two in hand on a few of the teams above us. I've no feelings on Cal either way, but IF play-offs was the target set by the board, then despite what fees like a miserable season, we are still not too far off. I think the next month or so is going to make or break our season, but rightly or wrongly, Cal is going to be the manager to lead us through it. Come January, things will be a lot clearer, with us either sitting in a much healthier position, or still not so far adrift that a change in management can't see us make a late play-off push.
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Post by Moltisanti on Nov 18, 2024 9:06:40 GMT
There's no way that if he had zero playing career and was a youth coach at say Borehamwood and then managed a team in the southern leagues to the play offs and was given the Chester job when he was, that he'd still be in a job currently. It's either emotional ties from the board or they don't want to admit their error and admit we've lost three seasons and a ton of money. No way he'd still be in a job??? I would hazard a guess that Cal's remit for the season was to make the play-offs. We can all argue about how poor the results have been, and how tedious a lot of the performances have been, but we are currently 3 places and 2 points off the Play-Offs, with a game or two in hand on a few of the teams above us. I've no feelings on Cal either way, but IF play-offs was the target set by the board, then despite what fees like a miserable season, we are still not too far off. I think the next month or so is going to make or break our season, but rightly or wrongly, Cal is going to be the manager to lead us through it. Come January, things will be a lot clearer, with us either sitting in a much healthier position, or still not so far adrift that a change in management can't see us make a late play-off push. Nail on the head.
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Post by muchwenlock2 on Nov 18, 2024 11:04:14 GMT
Needs a minimum 8 points from next 4 games anything less then it's time for me
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Post by wigangold on Nov 18, 2024 11:36:49 GMT
Forgive the intrusion. I am a Southport fan, but have always admired Chester as a good old-fashioned club with passion. You deserve so much better, and I can't understand why you have stuck with your manager. Maybe he is a really nice bloke, and perhaps he is a master tactician, and a magnificent motivator of players. These things, I do not know, but even as a neutral by-stander, I find his post match interviews truly cringe-worthy. He desperately needs classes in communication. He comes across as insincere, full of buzz words, cliches and false mannerisms. I've lost many sad hours, on YouTube, watching post-match interviews with random managers in the lower leagues, and you'd be hard pressed to find anyone as poor as him. Some are better than others, but the likes of Jono Greening at Scarborough, Steve Watson at Darlington, Jim Bentley at Southport, and Andy Preece at Chorley, are clearly a class apart from your chap. Now, I know that it's all about results, and where we finish at the end the season, but the ability to communicate in a believable manner is crucial, and your guy's inability to do this, even in the most basic way, is probably the front to a number of other deficiencies. I genuinely wish you well.........
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Post by Moltisanti on Nov 18, 2024 11:51:37 GMT
Forgive the intrusion. I am a Southport fan, but have always admired Chester as a good old-fashioned club with passion. You deserve so much better, and I can't understand why you have stuck with your manager. Maybe he is a really nice bloke, and perhaps he is a master tactician, and a magnificent motivator of players. These things, I do not know, but even as a neutral by-stander, I find his post match interviews truly cringe-worthy. He desperately needs classes in communication. He comes across as insincere, full of buzz words, cliches and false mannerisms. I've lost many sad hours, on YouTube, watching post-match interviews with random managers in the lower leagues, and you'd be hard pressed to find anyone as poor as him. Some are better than others, but the likes of Jono Greening at Scarborough, Steve Watson at Darlington, Jim Bentley at Southport, and Andy Preece at Chorley, are clearly a class apart from your chap. Now, I know that it's all about results, and where we finish at the end the season, but the ability to communicate in a believable manner is crucial, and your guy's inability to do this, even in the most basic way, is probably the front to a number of other deficiencies. I genuinely wish you well......... Jesus, Luke, getting weird now this.
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Post by lukeseal on Nov 18, 2024 12:03:38 GMT
Forgive the intrusion. I am a Southport fan, but have always admired Chester as a good old-fashioned club with passion. You deserve so much better, and I can't understand why you have stuck with your manager. Maybe he is a really nice bloke, and perhaps he is a master tactician, and a magnificent motivator of players. These things, I do not know, but even as a neutral by-stander, I find his post match interviews truly cringe-worthy. He desperately needs classes in communication. He comes across as insincere, full of buzz words, cliches and false mannerisms. I've lost many sad hours, on YouTube, watching post-match interviews with random managers in the lower leagues, and you'd be hard pressed to find anyone as poor as him. Some are better than others, but the likes of Jono Greening at Scarborough, Steve Watson at Darlington, Jim Bentley at Southport, and Andy Preece at Chorley, are clearly a class apart from your chap. Now, I know that it's all about results, and where we finish at the end the season, but the ability to communicate in a believable manner is crucial, and your guy's inability to do this, even in the most basic way, is probably the front to a number of other deficiencies. I genuinely wish you well......... Very true. He basically says it's on him and not the players as he thinks it's something he should say. The amount of times it's been on him and not the players he should have walked as he's saying to himself he's clearly not good enough. He's very arrogant and loves himself a bit too much
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Post by lukeseal on Nov 18, 2024 12:14:40 GMT
Forgive the intrusion. I am a Southport fan, but have always admired Chester as a good old-fashioned club with passion. You deserve so much better, and I can't understand why you have stuck with your manager. Maybe he is a really nice bloke, and perhaps he is a master tactician, and a magnificent motivator of players. These things, I do not know, but even as a neutral by-stander, I find his post match interviews truly cringe-worthy. He desperately needs classes in communication. He comes across as insincere, full of buzz words, cliches and false mannerisms. I've lost many sad hours, on YouTube, watching post-match interviews with random managers in the lower leagues, and you'd be hard pressed to find anyone as poor as him. Some are better than others, but the likes of Jono Greening at Scarborough, Steve Watson at Darlington, Jim Bentley at Southport, and Andy Preece at Chorley, are clearly a class apart from your chap. Now, I know that it's all about results, and where we finish at the end the season, but the ability to communicate in a believable manner is crucial, and your guy's inability to do this, even in the most basic way, is probably the front to a number of other deficiencies. I genuinely wish you well......... Jesus, Luke, getting weird now this. I've got one account on here and I'm not here to tell people what they should or shouldn't post
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Post by tooth on Nov 18, 2024 12:34:51 GMT
To me he was lucky to keep his job last season in February we were comfortable in 3rd then after a 1-1 with I think spennymore we didn't score in our last 6 home games and really didn't look like scoring ending the season 9th in the table now I gave him the benefit of the doubt but let's be fair it's a poor league and we are virtually the same position we finished in last season time will tell but to me the change should of been last season
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Post by jimianto on Nov 18, 2024 14:25:29 GMT
Needs a minimum 8 points from next 4 games anything less then it's time for me 8 is an unreasonable ask. 6 minimum is a fairer expectation - 7 would be decent & any more excellent. So 1 win 3 draws, or 2 wins min. 5 points keeps him in the job, but any less and it's thin ice.
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Post by muchwenlock2 on Nov 18, 2024 14:39:10 GMT
Needs a minimum 8 points from next 4 games anything less then it's time for me 8 is an unreasonable ask. 6 minimum is a fairer expectation - 7 would be decent & any more excellent. So 1 win 3 draws, or 2 wins min. 5 points keeps him in the job, but any less and it's thin ice. Personally 12 would have been an unreasonable ask but I'm going for 2 home wins and draw the 2 aways . 7 points keeps it going for a while longer 6 or less it's then a no from me
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Post by weareblues on Nov 18, 2024 15:15:30 GMT
Needs a minimum 8 points from next 4 games anything less then it's time for me 8 is an unreasonable ask. 6 minimum is a fairer expectation - 7 would be decent & any more excellent. So 1 win 3 draws, or 2 wins min. 5 points keeps him in the job, but any less and it's thin ice. You don’t get promoted drawing games we’ve drawn more than enough at this level 3 points minimum.
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