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Post by Al on Jul 14, 2017 13:43:21 GMT
Maybe Dawson might make a decent centre back?
He's got the build for it, he's got decent ability on the ball. What he maybe lacks is the experience of playing in that role, knowing the position, knowing when to track back with the man etc.
Sam Hughes was able to be remodelled as a centre back pretty easily in the end after playing in the same position as Dawson.
All speculation of course, but he does have the physical qualities there to make a decent centre back.
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Post by mrmanero on Jul 14, 2017 14:10:08 GMT
Evan Horwoods legs had gone, that's the nuts of it. Liam Davies has the potential to be the player of the season as the lad has vision. Zero pace but plenty of vision and eye for goal. Has to be played through the centre though. He's a CAM/No.10.
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Post by devavictrix on Jul 14, 2017 16:29:07 GMT
Evan Horwoods legs had gone, that's the nuts of it. Liam Davies has the potential to be the player of the season as the lad has vision. Zero pace but plenty of vision and eye for goal. Has to be played through the centre though. He's a CAM/No.10. That'd mean not playing 442 though, easily our strongest formation. Davies is nowhere near good enough to change our system and accommodate playing behind the strikers.
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Post by MPW on Jul 14, 2017 18:14:51 GMT
Maybe Dawson might make a decent centre back? He's got the build for it, he's got decent ability on the ball. What he maybe lacks is the experience of playing in that role, knowing the position, knowing when to track back with the man etc. Sam Hughes was able to be remodelled as a centre back pretty easily in the end after playing in the same position as Dawson. All speculation of course, but he does have the physical qualities there to make a decent centre back. This has crossed my mind too, just not sure about his heading ability yet.
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Post by dmcnally on Jul 14, 2017 19:49:15 GMT
Maybe Dawson might make a decent centre back? He's got the build for it, he's got decent ability on the ball. What he maybe lacks is the experience of playing in that role, knowing the position, knowing when to track back with the man etc. Sam Hughes was able to be remodelled as a centre back pretty easily in the end after playing in the same position as Dawson. All speculation of course, but he does have the physical qualities there to make a decent centre back. Kingsley James can operate at centre back, and I'd prefer him there (to Lucas). I think Dawson is quite technically gifted with good passing, vision etc and putting him at centre back would really limit his chances to make of the most these quantities. Personally I'd like to see him in an advanced role and see how he copes being further up field and closer to the striker/s. Just my opinion.
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Post by noddy on Jul 15, 2017 0:15:22 GMT
Evan Horwoods legs had gone, that's the nuts of it. Liam Davies has the potential to be the player of the season as the lad has vision. Zero pace but plenty of vision and eye for goal. Has to be played through the centre though. He's a CAM/No.10. First post I see, and I have bitten. If Liam Davies has the potential to be player of the season then I will bring my boots down for a game! Rooney was a luxury No 10 which was a 50/50 call, a "marmite" player. I can only assume MrManero is a family member of the Davies family or Liam himself!
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 15, 2017 7:16:12 GMT
The latest replies to this thread summarise the main concern I have about the makeup of our squad. As somebody posted, we need a proper defence in place and I question the decision to extend the contract of an unproven winger rather than opting to bring in some much-needed cover for the defence.
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Post by Jack on Jul 15, 2017 9:13:40 GMT
We need to utilise the loan market wisely this season. There will be league 1 clubs who are keen to get players out and playing football at a good level.
We need 2 of those to bulk out the squad and give us cover. The benefit is the wages will be very low or non existent but the downside is we've had some dross on loan in the SB years.
I prefer to look at players like Lloyd and Vassell as examples of how loanees can compliment the squad. I'd hope JM is making a few calls and pulling in a few favours.
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Post by chesterken on Jul 15, 2017 9:29:27 GMT
We need to utilise the loan market wisely this season. There will be league 1 clubs who are keen to get players out and playing football at a good level. We need 2 of those to bulk out the squad and give us cover. The benefit is the wages will be very low or non existent but the downside is we've had some dross on loan in the SB years. I prefer to look at players like Lloyd and Vassell as examples of how loanees can compliment the squad. I'd hope JM is making a few calls and pulling in a few favours. The loan system served us well last season with Roberts and Vassell let's hope for more of the same which would help fill the defensive void
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Post by dmcnally on Jul 15, 2017 9:55:27 GMT
We need to utilise the loan market wisely this season. There will be league 1 clubs who are keen to get players out and playing football at a good level. We need 2 of those to bulk out the squad and give us cover. The benefit is the wages will be very low or non existent but the downside is we've had some dross on loan in the SB years. I prefer to look at players like Lloyd and Vassell as examples of how loanees can compliment the squad. I'd hope JM is making a few calls and pulling in a few favours. You've also got to remember Steve Burr brought in some of the best loan players since reformation; Oli McBurnie, Matty Taylor etc...
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Post by Hannibal on Jul 15, 2017 10:10:05 GMT
Maybe Dawson might make a decent centre back? He's got the build for it, he's got decent ability on the ball. What he maybe lacks is the experience of playing in that role, knowing the position, knowing when to track back with the man etc. Sam Hughes was able to be remodelled as a centre back pretty easily in the end after playing in the same position as Dawson. All speculation of course, but he does have the physical qualities there to make a decent centre back. Kingsley James can operate at centre back, and I'd prefer him there (to Lucas). I think Dawson is quite technically gifted with good passing, vision etc and putting him at centre back would really limit his chances to make of the most these quantities. Personally I'd like to see him in an advanced role and see how he copes being further up field and closer to the striker/s. Just my opinion. Now I know you're having a laugh, ha ha!
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Post by dmcnally on Jul 15, 2017 11:34:37 GMT
Kingsley James can operate at centre back, and I'd prefer him there (to Lucas). I think Dawson is quite technically gifted with good passing, vision etc and putting him at centre back would really limit his chances to make of the most these quantities. Personally I'd like to see him in an advanced role and see how he copes being further up field and closer to the striker/s. Just my opinion. Now I know you're having a laugh, ha ha! Yes he's made a lot of unforced errors but I see a good player in there.
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Post by Hannibal on Jul 15, 2017 13:30:16 GMT
Now I know you're having a laugh, ha ha! Yes he's made a lot of unforced errors but I see a good player in there. I hope your right young man.
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Post by mrmanero on Jul 16, 2017 10:56:07 GMT
Evan Horwoods legs had gone, that's the nuts of it. Liam Davies has the potential to be the player of the season as the lad has vision. Zero pace but plenty of vision and eye for goal. Has to be played through the centre though. He's a CAM/No.10. First post I see, and I have bitten. If Liam Davies has the potential to be player of the season then I will bring my boots down for a game! Rooney was a luxury No 10 which was a 50/50 call, a "marmite" player. I can only assume MrManero is a family member of the Davies family or Liam himself! Ey up diddums.....who put 50p in your slot? Its merely my opinion that when I saw this lad play last season he looked a real talent at times....he's not a left winger, he's not a left back. He'll give it a go no doubt as its minutes on the pitch but ultimately play him just in behind Harry White one afternoon when Hannah is nursing a knock and lets see what happens.
Try and stay positive Nodder.
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Post by noddy on Jul 16, 2017 11:25:55 GMT
First post I see, and I have bitten. If Liam Davies has the potential to be player of the season then I will bring my boots down for a game! Rooney was a luxury No 10 which was a 50/50 call, a "marmite" player. I can only assume MrManero is a family member of the Davies family or Liam himself! Ey up diddums.....who put 50p in your slot? Its merely my opinion that when I saw this lad play last season he looked a real talent at times....he's not a left winger, he's not a left back. He'll give it a go no doubt as its minutes on the pitch but ultimately play him just in behind Harry White one afternoon when Hannah is nursing a knock and lets see what happens.
Try and stay positive Nodder.
Why thank you sir! Indeed we will see what happens during the forthcoming season no doubt. Football is a matter of opinions, though I do question yours if you thought he looked a "real talent at times", your probably in the small minority who think that but time will tell. In preparation of being proven right i will dig out my boots and give them a clean.
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Post by mrmanero on Jul 16, 2017 11:39:36 GMT
Evan Horwoods legs had gone, that's the nuts of it. Liam Davies has the potential to be the player of the season as the lad has vision. Zero pace but plenty of vision and eye for goal. Has to be played through the centre though. He's a CAM/No.10. That'd mean not playing 442 though, easily our strongest formation. Davies is nowhere near good enough to change our system and accommodate playing behind the strikers. No need to change the preferred system........at some point when either White or Hannah are rested then get Davies just tucked in behind the No.9. I don't see him starting the season openers but the fact that macca has upgraded the 6 month contract to a year long one suggests he's doing something right.
We shall see how it pans out but I just feel it in my scrotum that this lad has a bit of magic.
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Post by mrmanero on Jul 16, 2017 11:47:46 GMT
Ey up diddums.....who put 50p in your slot? Its merely my opinion that when I saw this lad play last season he looked a real talent at times....he's not a left winger, he's not a left back. He'll give it a go no doubt as its minutes on the pitch but ultimately play him just in behind Harry White one afternoon when Hannah is nursing a knock and lets see what happens.
Try and stay positive Nodder.
Why thank you sir! Indeed we will see what happens during the forthcoming season no doubt. Football is a matter of opinions, though I do question yours if you thought he looked a "real talent at times", your probably in the small minority who think that but time will tell. In preparation of being proven right i will dig out my boots and give them a clean. Haha....keep your Hi techs in the garage mate. The lads an Aldi version of Sheringham...wait n see.
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Post by bonecrusher on Jul 16, 2017 13:29:30 GMT
Really because apart from one bullet header I thought he looked well off the pace. If he's player of the season he'll either pull something out of the bag or we are in for a desperate time of it...
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Post by billyw on Jul 16, 2017 15:12:25 GMT
Evan Horwoods legs had gone, that's the nuts of it. Liam Davies has the potential to be the player of the season as the lad has vision. Zero pace but plenty of vision and eye for goal. Has to be played through the centre though. He's a CAM/No.10. First post I see, and I have bitten. If Liam Davies has the potential to be player of the season then I will bring my boots down for a game! Rooney was a luxury No 10 which was a 50/50 call, a "marmite" player. I can only assume MrManero is a family member of the Davies family or Liam himself! I hope he is more successful than another player we had whose brother was an Everton legend - anyone know who he was? (And I don't mean Rooney).
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Post by joebloggs on Jul 16, 2017 17:08:40 GMT
Evan Horwood signs for Bala
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Post by peterkaysock on Jul 16, 2017 17:44:04 GMT
Signs for Bala
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Post by Rio Doherty on Jul 16, 2017 19:33:25 GMT
That's a strange one, especially with us playing against him tomorrow night. Hope he does well for them.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 16, 2017 20:32:49 GMT
Not so strange in that they've offered him something more permanent than he had with us. The European dollah helping, I'm sure.
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Post by RonD on Jul 17, 2017 9:12:47 GMT
Surprising move for me signing for Bala . . . possibly a coaching role too? Obviously the extra six months on his contract a factor.
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Post by bluboy79 on Jul 17, 2017 10:14:52 GMT
Good luck to Evan Horwood who I don't think we really saw the best of, how on Earth do these Welsh Premier teams afford to attract decent players ? Crowds are no more than a few hundred !
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Post by Si on Jul 17, 2017 12:14:51 GMT
Good luck to Evan Horwood who I don't think we really saw the best of, how on Earth do these Welsh Premier teams afford to attract decent players ? Crowds are no more than a few hundred ! I sometimes wonder that but then again most of the league have artificial surfaces these days so they will be getting income on a daily basis renting that out for community use. Plus the prize money for competing in Europe is pretty good even if you get knocked out straight away. I do wonder though what happened to Airbus? Played in Europe for a few seasons and challenging in the top 3 but last season seemed to cut their budget dramatically and got relegated - I'm sure they used to insist that they didn't get funding from the factory but surely they must have done?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 12:22:32 GMT
Used to get sponsorships from the suppliers of the factory.
ie, the manager etc had cars supplied (at the 'right price') by the people who did the company cars for Airbus.
That kind of thing.
Could never take to them to be honest, as plastic a club as their new FAW funded pitch. Always seemed very bitter towards CFC for some reason. Would like to see proper teams in the WPL, Caernarfon, Druids etc in their place.
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Post by Si on Jul 17, 2017 12:44:51 GMT
Used to get sponsorships from the suppliers of the factory. ie, the manager etc had cars supplied (at the 'right price') by the people who did the company cars for Airbus. That kind of thing. Could never take to them to be honest, as plastic a club as their new FAW funded pitch. Always seemed very bitter towards CFC for some reason. Would like to see proper teams in the WPL, Caernarfon, Druids etc in their place. Starting to make a bit more sense then. That's the problem with the factory teams, I know Vauxhalls stopped getting any financial support (other than the team bus) a good few years ago but ultimately they couldn't sustain themselves at that level, not surprising when you see the money involved in the National League North these days.
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