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Post by Paul Da Part on Aug 19, 2017 19:57:47 GMT
I've just noticed that the 'Chester FC TV' YouTube channel has stopped anyone from commenting on McCarthy's post-match interview. You only need to look at the replies to the video on Twitter to see why! |
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Post by jb on Aug 19, 2017 19:59:27 GMT
He should've gone after the Sutton defeat last season.
Bring in Barrow. He's needed to galvanise the club and supporters.
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Post by tarvinblue on Aug 19, 2017 20:00:20 GMT
I've just noticed that the 'Chester FC TV' YouTube channel has stopped anyone from commenting on McCarthy's post-match interview. You only need to look at the replies to the video on Twitter to see why! Another case of the club ignoring the fanbase and ploughing on regardless. |
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Post by Matt on Aug 19, 2017 20:10:04 GMT
At least the goats got beat, couldn't stand them posting trash tonight.
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Post by bonecrusher on Aug 19, 2017 20:12:39 GMT
You only need to look at the replies to the video on Twitter to see why! Another case of the club ignoring the fanbase and ploughing on regardless. It's hardly surprising the club have disabled comments through really. The fact that they have disabled them suggests they know what the mood is. Suspect there may be some discussions going on,. |
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Post by dmcnally on Aug 19, 2017 20:40:45 GMT
He should've gone after the Sutton defeat last season. Bring in Barrow. He's needed to galvanise the club and supporters. Barrow is at Chesterfield. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 19, 2017 20:47:59 GMT
I've read an awful lot of comments I have thoroughly agreed with on the match thread - almost all of what has needed to be said has all been said a thousand times over there - but that third paragraph really hits home the stark situation we find ourselves in.
As supporters of a club like ours, often all we ask for is hope. And this cuckold manager is fast erasing any with his ridiculous press interviews and the way he sets us up tactically. You almost feel "what's the point?"
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Post by MPW on Aug 19, 2017 21:07:59 GMT
Macca is a nice guy and probably a good mentoring coach, but is clearly struggling as a manager.
For starters, we had a ridiculous number of injuries last season and already this season they are building up again, but they are rarely minor injuries. Everyone else seems much fitter than we are yet we started training before every other club. Something still isn't right in these areas, despite Macca saying that they had reviewed them.
Macca has made errors of judgement when it comes to appointing his assistant. Iwelumo was rarely there and then he appoints one of our best players and top scorers last season in Tom Shaw, who now doesn't want to play because he understandably wants to concentrate on coaching. I wonder if Macca knew this when he interviewed him?
When things turn sour like they have between the manager and the fans then there is only ever going to be one outcome. Attendances cannot be allowed to continue to drop, although it's worth noting that they weren't great last season even when we were winning games.
The post match interviews are cringeworthy at times and he never criticised the players even after heavy defeats.
I hope he turns it around and proves us wrong, but I just can't see it happening.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Aug 19, 2017 21:15:59 GMT
I'm sorry but with the best interests of our club which we all care about so much he needs to be gone by the end of Monday?
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Post by Wortleyblue on Aug 19, 2017 21:17:39 GMT
Macca is a nice guy and probably a good mentoring coach, but is clearly struggling as a manager. For starters, we had a ridiculous number of injuries last season and already this season they are building up again, but they are rarely minor injuries. Everyone else seems much fitter than we are yet we started training before every other club. Something still isn't right in these areas, despite Macca saying that they had reviewed them. Macca has made errors of judgement when it comes to appointing his assistant. Iwelumo was rarely there and then he appoints one of our best players and top scorers last season in Tom Shaw, who now doesn't want to play because he understandably wants to concentrate on coaching. I wonder if Macca knew this when he interviewed him? When things turn sour like they have between the manager and the fans then there is only ever going to be one outcome. Attendances cannot be allowed to continue to drop, although it's worth noting that they weren't great last season even when we were winning games. The post match interviews are cringeworthy at times and he never criticised the players even after heavy defeats. I hope he turns it around and proves us wrong, but I just can't see it happening. And just how long do you give him. I'm afraid he has to go now now |
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Aug 19, 2017 23:08:59 GMT
If those on the board by now don't grasp that he needs to go then they're part of the problem as well.
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Post by Johnnybling on Aug 20, 2017 7:13:01 GMT
Someone knows something as to why he is still there I'm convinced
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Post by paulie on Aug 20, 2017 8:21:55 GMT
Someone knows something as to why he is still there I'm convinced I said something similar in another thread. It's mind boggling how he is still here. There may genuinely be no money in the pot to pay him off, or he has something over the board. No no win in 18? Home matches, shocking attendances, still thinks he's doing a good job. Other clubs must be laughing at us now. |
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Post by tarvinblue on Aug 20, 2017 8:40:03 GMT
Someone knows something as to why he is still there I'm convinced I said something similar in another thread. It's mind boggling how he is still here. There may genuinely be no money in the pot to pay him off, or he has something over the board. No no win in 18? Home matches, shocking attendances, still thinks he's doing a good job. Other clubs must be laughing at us now. Comes back to the same old - the deadly silence from those trusted to run our football club. The assumption is that they think things are okay and expect JM to turn it around. In this vacuum of communication, assumption becomes rife. With the disdain that former chairman etc show towards paying fans online, it only re-enforces the belief that they have a completely different view to the majority. When they want your money or a vote at the next election, they seem to re-appear. |
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Post by Lobster on Aug 20, 2017 8:54:51 GMT
I think it's just that it's a big financial outlay, so will make a big dint in our finances. It has to happen though. This can't go on any longer.
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Post by devaboyreturns on Aug 20, 2017 8:58:04 GMT
I was amazed that Jon McCarthy didn't leave by mutual consent at the end of last season. I like the guy I really do, but as a Manager you are paid to get results and he simply has not done this. The end of last season was similar to the run Steve Burr was on and despite Steve being under contract for still sometime it was decided that enough was enough - surely the same now for Jon McCarthy!!!!
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Post by Lobster on Aug 20, 2017 8:58:10 GMT
I said something similar in another thread. It's mind boggling how he is still here. There may genuinely be no money in the pot to pay him off, or he has something over the board. No no win in 18? Home matches, shocking attendances, still thinks he's doing a good job. Other clubs must be laughing at us now. Comes back to the same old - the deadly silence from those trusted to run our football club. The assumption is that they think things are okay and expect JM to turn it around. In this vacuum of communication, assumption becomes rife. With the disdain that former chairman etc show towards paying fans online, it only re-enforces the belief that they have a completely different view to the majority. When they want your money or a vote at the next election, they seem to re-appear. What do you expect them to say though? They can either sack him or say nothing, they can't exactly come out and say "we'll give him two more games" or "we're trying to negotiate a severance package". That kind of stuff needs to stay in private. |
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Post by tarvinblue on Aug 20, 2017 9:08:05 GMT
Comes back to the same old - the deadly silence from those trusted to run our football club. The assumption is that they think things are okay and expect JM to turn it around. In this vacuum of communication, assumption becomes rife. With the disdain that former chairman etc show towards paying fans online, it only re-enforces the belief that they have a completely different view to the majority. When they want your money or a vote at the next election, they seem to re-appear. What do you expect them to say though? They can either sack him or say nothing, they can't exactly come out and say "we'll give him two more games" or "we're trying to negotiate a severance package". That kind of stuff needs to stay in private. I would expect, by this point, at least some acknowledgement of the situation. An understanding that supporters are disappointed - at least something to show some empathy towards the 95% who have frustratingly sat through that dross for 9 months, having paid a lot of money to do so. 'We understand supporters are disappointed and we hope things improve in the coming weeks' - at least something. It might even put some pressure on McCarthy and get him to reflect on his ways. I don't expect anything as blunt as what you have quoted - that only happens at clubs with egotistical owners. However, the fact nothing changes and there is simply no communication, even to those who are paying members of the CFU, suggests that they are happy to carry on. |
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Post by Lobster on Aug 20, 2017 9:12:24 GMT
What do you expect them to say though? They can either sack him or say nothing, they can't exactly come out and say "we'll give him two more games" or "we're trying to negotiate a severance package". That kind of stuff needs to stay in private. I would expect, by this point, at least some acknowledgement of the situation. An understanding that supporters are disappointed - at least something to show some empathy to towards the 95% who are sitting through that dross. 'We understand supporters are disappointed and we hope things improve in the coming weeks' - at least something. It might even put some pressure on McCarthy and get him to reflect on his ways. I don't expect anything as blunt as what you have quoted - that only happens at clubs with egotistical owners. However, the fact nothing changes and there is simply no communication, even to those who are paying members of the CFU, suggests that they are happy to carry on. I don't see much point in such a statement myself. The board are fans, so the fact that we're all disappointed is a given. It would just come across as wishy-washy lip service. |
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Post by tarvinblue on Aug 20, 2017 9:15:17 GMT
I would expect, by this point, at least some acknowledgement of the situation. An understanding that supporters are disappointed - at least something to show some empathy to towards the 95% who are sitting through that dross. 'We understand supporters are disappointed and we hope things improve in the coming weeks' - at least something. It might even put some pressure on McCarthy and get him to reflect on his ways. I don't expect anything as blunt as what you have quoted - that only happens at clubs with egotistical owners. However, the fact nothing changes and there is simply no communication, even to those who are paying members of the CFU, suggests that they are happy to carry on. I don't see much point in such a statement myself. The board are fans, so the fact that we're all disappointed is a given. It would just come across as wishy-washy lip service. It would at least show they are on the same page as us. At this moment in time, I'm not convinced that they are. Fans they might be, but there's a good number of them that seem more intent on parading around in a suit and chumming up with JM, rather than challenging the situation. You only have to read Twitter outbursts from former members of the board to understand that they seem to hold any negative fan views with contempt. |
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Post by paulie on Aug 20, 2017 9:51:26 GMT
Comes back to the same old - the deadly silence from those trusted to run our football club. The assumption is that they think things are okay and expect JM to turn it around. In this vacuum of communication, assumption becomes rife. With the disdain that former chairman etc show towards paying fans online, it only re-enforces the belief that they have a completely different view to the majority. When they want your money or a vote at the next election, they seem to re-appear. What do you expect them to say though? They can either sack him or say nothing, they can't exactly come out and say "we'll give him two more games" or "we're trying to negotiate a severance package". That kind of stuff needs to stay in private. A vote of confidence would be a start. |
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Post by trev on Aug 20, 2017 10:25:51 GMT
A statement would be good PR with the fan base given the entirely understandable negativity at the moment, as well as helping neutralise Mr McCarthy’s ridiculous post match comments given he is effectively the public voice of the Club at the moment. I am concerned a default position may already been agreed, in that that whatever happens, Mr McCarthy will still be in post for at least 10 games. I hope I’m wrong, as surely we have now passed the point of no return.
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Post by jb on Aug 20, 2017 10:30:18 GMT
A statement would be good PR with the fan base given the entirely understandable negativity at the moment, as well as helping neutralise Mr McCarthy’s ridiculous post match comments given he is effectively the public voice of the Club at the moment. I am concerned a default position may already been agreed, in that that whatever happens, Mr McCarthy will still be in post for at least 10 games. I hope I’m wrong, as surely we have now passed the point of no return. If he gets 10 games we will be cut adrift and looking at Conf North football next season. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 11:19:54 GMT
I don't see much point in such a statement myself. The board are fans, so the fact that we're all disappointed is a given. It would just come across as wishy-washy lip service. It would at least show they are on the same page as us. At this moment in time, I'm not convinced that they are. Fans they might be, but there's a good number of them that seem more intent on parading around in a suit and chumming up with JM, rather than challenging the situation. you only have to read Twitter outbursts from former members of the board to understand that they seem to hold any negative fan views with contempt. Could you point me in the direction of these please? I genuinely dont see how anybody can defend yesterday, especially the first half. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 11:26:32 GMT
linkCould be unrelated but a tweet from a director
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 20, 2017 12:02:07 GMT
Think they're referring to Alan Povey's sarcastic comments about this forum previously.
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Post by tarvinblue on Aug 20, 2017 14:08:43 GMT
It would at least show they are on the same page as us. At this moment in time, I'm not convinced that they are. Fans they might be, but there's a good number of them that seem more intent on parading around in a suit and chumming up with JM, rather than challenging the situation. you only have to read Twitter outbursts from former members of the board to understand that they seem to hold any negative fan views with contempt. Could you point me in the direction of these please? I genuinely dont see how anybody can defend yesterday, especially the first half. Wasn't yesterday, mate. It was post Fylde game. Believe me, there were people in the main stand shouting down people criticising JM yesterday. They are still out there! |
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