Can we afford to Sack Him? The Mathematical Answer!

I previously used some figures - assuming the attendance losses as half on concessions and half on full price, thus averaging £15 per person, and 700 absences, equating to £10,500 loss per match. Even with your figures it still remains a sizeable loss, and that's before taking a relegation hit into consideration. The longer we delay his removal the harder it becomes to tempt those missing to return.
Silence on the gardening leave subject is obvious, as we are not privy to contract terms or clauses, but I am sure that will already be under consideration and perhaps legal review. If the man has strengths, as numerous people suggest, then it would be beneficial to both parties if a mutual agreement for his deployment from the frontline came a.s.a.p.  He needs to re-establish some professional pride and market value - currently he has none, and the club needs to save a large payout. The potential for a win-win situation exists. I hope he is aware that away from this club he is unemployable and therefore unable to rebuild some value in the footballing market.  
Hopefully we can also get a good midfield player back on the pitch at the same time!

He wouldn't get that if he left the club. If he didn't accept a lower severance package then just sit him on the bench every week alongside a real manager, players instructed to ignore him, and pay him his contractual weekly wage. Wouldn't enhance his job prospects, even Southport wouldn't want him.

We said this after the Steve burr debacle. It's clear now that you can count McCarthy supporters on one hand, I really am hoping for a statement from the club tomorrow about his departure 

Can we afford NOT to sack him though? There is only one way this club is heading under his management and that is sinking into the Conference North. That will cost us even more in the long run and the pipe dream of returning to the EFL will be even less possible. It would cripple us. Take the plunge, sack the buffoon now, pay off whatever is due (to be rewarded for failure is a kick in the balls to us paying him - yes, I know it's part of the terms of the contract between him and the club) get an experienced head in and lets start afresh, we've got good players, all they need is a manager who has a little bit of tactical nous.

The average will be approximately £9.00 per head; you have to remember that one sixth of the price we pay at the gate goes to HMRC, e.g. £3 of the £18 you pay as a full-paying adult in the stand is VAT.

Of course, the assumption that crowds will return to the previous higher levels if we were to appoint a new manager is far from guaranteed.

I remember many moons ago I used to play for a pub team in a Sunday morning with some fellow blues. And the manager then had to go but no one would tell him because he had a reputation with a spade if he got angry.
I know it's not relevant but just come in to my head. Just like the spade....... no I carnt do that joke

I agree totally with your arguement but not sure on those calculations to be honest. I don't think our average will be down 5-600 of last season at all. I also doubt the average price of those persons is £12-£15. Many of the people will be under 16 I would think, and perhaps parents with children. I would think being fair, we may be down around £50k across the season on current gate averages. The board need to think about whether they think results will improve, and/or entertainment value. I think suggesting our income will be down over £10k a game as one post suggested is ludicrously exaggerated. That's like 250k a season, no way are we down that much on the current average. I'd say the minimum gate we may get is 1400, in bad form and on a Tuesday night. That's where I'd like to believe we're at anyway.

In my personal opinion, we should have cut ties over summer, but now we simply have to get rid if we don't win one of the next two games at least. I do think though, we may be overestimating the calc of loss.

Okay rcb, I know for a fact we will not lose £250k across the season, as suggested that we are losing over 10k a match currently. This isn't based on facts, it's based on what you believe the gate will drop by, which it actually hasn't. Do I agree that gates are terrible? Yes I do. But we are NOT losing 700 fans a match as you quoted. So to claim that as a fact is simply false. If we we're to genuinely work with facts, the loss of personnel at the moment is about 3-350, based on an average of £9 which would cover 1/3 of those people being under 16's, and a hand full of ST holders, that would give us roughly £3,150 loss per match based on the upper estimate. 

Of course, presuming you saw my thread on JM, including the poll in which most of us agreed he should leave, you know i'm anti-JM. But this is about whether we can afford to pay him off not whether we like him or not. Based on his yearly salary, we can afford to pay him off, based on the fact we would lose around 60k in gate fee's, if the average was to stay the same as today. This is more than JM's salary. The problem then lies, we need a new manager, which would result in fans returning IMO, but to get the 350 back, I don't think it would happen overnight. Based on the figures, as at today, we would make financial loss by sacking JM, and bringing in a new manager, as opposed to keeping him and the average being lower. OF COURSE this is based on todays average, and we could very well lose more fans over the coming weeks if results and performances don't improve. I hope this clears up my stance, using figures AS AT TODAY and also shows that a loss of 250k really is ludicrously exaggerated. No aggression meant by this post, not do I disagree with some sensible points made.

I guess an average is better than comparing two games, but it's too early in the season for averages too I suppose. One things for sure, something must change.

Tend to agree with Dodge on this one. Only way that crowds numbers might surge would be through the appointment of a "celebrity manager" e.g. Robbie Fowler, and that would probably be short lived. Average gates of 2000 is where we are at as a club. Any increase through better performances and results would be slow unless we were challenging right at the top. The danger of keeping a failing manager for too long is that numbers will continue to drifting some may never return.