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Post by sumo on Aug 20, 2017 22:33:56 GMT
1600 home fans is a disgrace, a fan owned club, need every bit of money you can get, and you turn your back on the club when the going gets tough, half of you don't deserve a club to support, you should be happy you have got a team to go and support, win lose or draw, as long as the players are trying and giving all they can, you should be behind them, I have come away from a match thinking, what a s**t game ie against Halifax, but you know what, they are MY team , I think myself lucky to have a team to support, and will carry on supporting them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 23:06:28 GMT
Go to bed
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Post by Forever Blue on Aug 20, 2017 23:52:53 GMT
1600 home fans is a disgrace, a fan owned club, need every bit of money you can get, and you turn your back on the club when the going gets tough, half of you don't deserve a club to support, you should be happy you have got a team to go and support, win lose or draw, as long as the players are trying and giving all they can, you should be behind them, I have come away from a match thinking, what a s**t game ie against Halifax, but you know what, they are MY team , I think myself lucky to have a team to support, and will carry on supporting them. I am grateful I have a team to support but I am not grateful watching our manager destroy the best team we have had on paper destroying their confidence game by game.
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Post by billyw on Aug 21, 2017 6:52:33 GMT
1600 home fans is a disgrace, a fan owned club, need every bit of money you can get, and you turn your back on the club when the going gets tough, half of you don't deserve a club to support, you should be happy you have got a team to go and support, win lose or draw, as long as the players are trying and giving all they can, you should be behind them, I have come away from a match thinking, what a s**t game ie against Halifax, but you know what, they are MY team , I think myself lucky to have a team to support, and will carry on supporting them. Agreed and I will always buy a season ticket no matter what, but while having paid for a ST, I have found it hard to motivate myself to go to the games since Christmas. People like me are not depriving the club of cash by not going but when season ticket holders feel like this, what chance is there for the less committed supporters. Gates will continue to fall and relegation will be a certainty unless the Board take the action that most of us feel to be necessary - McCarthy must go.
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Aug 21, 2017 7:13:33 GMT
1600 home fans is a disgrace, a fan owned club, need every bit of money you can get, and you turn your back on the club when the going gets tough, half of you don't deserve a club to support, you should be happy you have got a team to go and support, win lose or draw, as long as the players are trying and giving all they can, you should be behind them, I have come away from a match thinking, what a s**t game ie against Halifax, but you know what, they are MY team , I think myself lucky to have a team to support, and will carry on supporting them. Spot on. Imagine turning your back on your own club because they're playing crap. Disgrace.
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Post by hanoiblue on Aug 21, 2017 7:29:21 GMT
1600 home fans is a disgrace, a fan owned club, need every bit of money you can get, and you turn your back on the club when the going gets tough, half of you don't deserve a club to support, you should be happy you have got a team to go and support, win lose or draw, as long as the players are trying and giving all they can, you should be behind them, I have come away from a match thinking, what a s**t game ie against Halifax, but you know what, they are MY team , I think myself lucky to have a team to support, and will carry on supporting them. Oh come off it, do you really expect anyone but the 1600 hardcore to pay to watch? People want value for money at £15/£18, it's a lot of money to pay when you can watch the same style of football in the local Saturday leagues - and that's free! 700 off the gate from the first game is a testament to JM sucking the enthusiasm out of the fans. Saturday's 2nd half may have been entertaining (compared to some of the shower we've served up), but did we ever take the game to them when our tails were up? We've had 2 halves of football that have been barely up to scratch, and the other 6 have been atrocious. Get JM out, and watch the floaters return when we're utilising our on-field assets properly. The board need to make the tough decision, because there's only one way we're going if we carry on like this.
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Post by blue4life on Aug 21, 2017 7:31:51 GMT
1600 home fans is a disgrace, a fan owned club, need every bit of money you can get, and you turn your back on the club when the going gets tough, half of you don't deserve a club to support, you should be happy you have got a team to go and support, win lose or draw, as long as the players are trying and giving all they can, you should be behind them, I have come away from a match thinking, what a s**t game ie against Halifax, but you know what, they are MY team , I think myself lucky to have a team to support, and will carry on supporting them. Spot on. Imagine turning your back on your own club because they're playing crap. Disgrace. Or maybe people are pissed off because we haven't seen our team win a home game since December 2016.
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Post by Anders on Aug 21, 2017 8:26:24 GMT
Considering you’re talking to mostly fans who are still going, that rant is just going in to thin air. The reality is plenty of fans aren’t going and calling them a disgrace and crap fans is pointless and irrelevant. Certainly isn’t going to bring them back either, which is all I’m interested in personally.
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Aug 21, 2017 9:29:03 GMT
Considering you’re talking to mostly fans who are still going, that rant is just going in to thin air. The reality is plenty of fans aren’t going and calling them a disgrace and crap fans is pointless and irrelevant. Certainly isn’t going to bring them back either, which is all I’m interested in personally. No, I was referring the people who aren't going because we're not playing well. I stand by what I said.
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Post by sumo on Aug 21, 2017 12:16:04 GMT
Spot on. Imagine turning your back on your own club because they're playing crap. Disgrace. Or maybe people are pissed off because we haven't seen our team win a home game since December 2016. I am pissed off we have not won at home since December also, but I still support them at home because I am loyal.
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Aug 21, 2017 12:26:47 GMT
Spot on. Imagine turning your back on your own club because they're playing crap. Disgrace. Or maybe people are pissed off because we haven't seen our team win a home game since December 2016. Proper fans stick with their team.
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Post by sqzl on Aug 21, 2017 12:38:35 GMT
Or maybe people are pissed off because we haven't seen our team win a home game since December 2016. Proper fans stick with their team. Problem is, you're aiming this at people who actually attend the games and still go regardless of performance. I very much doubt many of DC don't go to games unless it's geographically impossible to attend every game, people such as Norweigan Blue etc. The point can be raised to the club about attendances, but no point whinging to other people who are equally as disappointed with the gates and the performances.
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Post by sumo on Aug 21, 2017 14:11:15 GMT
Proper fans stick with their team. Problem is, you're aiming this at people who actually attend the games and still go regardless of performance. I very much doubt many of DC don't go to games unless it's geographically impossible to attend every game, people such as Norweigan Blue etc. The point can be raised to the club about attendances, but no point whinging to other people who are equally as disappointed with the gates and the performances. Enlighten us then, what percentage of deva chatters go to games then ?.
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Post by sqzl on Aug 21, 2017 14:25:34 GMT
Problem is, you're aiming this at people who actually attend the games and still go regardless of performance. I very much doubt many of DC don't go to games unless it's geographically impossible to attend every game, people such as Norweigan Blue etc. The point can be raised to the club about attendances, but no point whinging to other people who are equally as disappointed with the gates and the performances. Enlighten us then, what percentage of deva chatters go to games then ?. Is this some sort of joke? This is maybe one of the more childish comments i've had the displeasure of responding to on DC. The majority of Deva Chatters attend matches, hence the comments on the match threads from people who are at/have been to the game. Some can't attend every game, some go home and away, what does it matter?. It's not rocket science that if you have an issue with attendances, maybe not voice this to people who go the game. If you're that worried, contact the club and question their concern over falling attendances.
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Post by Hannibal on Aug 21, 2017 14:28:49 GMT
I'm a season ticket holder and I've missed just a handful of home games since we re-formed. I've also been to about 75% of our away games during this period, but it's been torture this last 8 months watching us at home and it's not going to change until there is a fundamental shift in the board's mind-set. Action needs to be taken and it needs to happen before a quarter of the season is done to give the new manager a decent chance at turning it round.
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Post by btb on Aug 21, 2017 14:30:02 GMT
I do find all the talk of boycotting complete nonsense as OP says this is our club. Personally I go to the home games that are on a Saturday buy a couple of things from the shop when I can etc and that is my way of supporting the club. As for the actual team, entertainment value has been at a premium for a long time now. The manager seems to have sucked every bit of life out of things. Funny really, in that he said he would have no negativity at the club and yet he has turned in to the most negative person in the ground.
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Post by Lobster on Aug 21, 2017 15:53:34 GMT
I think "boycotting" is a bit pathetic, but people are only human and football is an expensive hobby. If you make people think they're inadequate or useless for not turning up week in week out, you just insult and drive away a significant provider of the matchday income.
I can't go to every game these days because my time and money are limited. I'd like to think I don't let poor results and performances affect my decision on whether or not to go, but I probably do to an extent. There are times where you feel a good support could make a difference, but at the moment it feels like with the way we approach the game, it doesn't matter whether we sell the place out or have one man and his dog, we're still going to play in the same lousy old way.
We're almost all glory hunters in a way anyway. How many people went to Barnsley in the Cup a few years ago, but don't bother with similar distance games like Guiseley and Halifax?
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Post by btb on Aug 21, 2017 16:08:14 GMT
I think "boycotting" is a bit pathetic, but people are only human and football is an expensive hobby. If you make people think they're inadequate or useless for not turning up week in week out, you just insult and drive away a significant provider of the matchday income. I can't go to every game these days because my time and money are limited. I'd like to think I don't let poor results and performances affect my decision on whether or not to go, but I probably do to an extent. There are times where you feel a good support could make a difference, but at the moment it feels like with the way we approach the game, it doesn't matter whether we sell the place out or have one man and his dog, we're still going to play in the same lousy old way. We're almost all glory hunters in a way anyway. How many people went to Barnsley in the Cup a few years ago, but don't bother with similar distance games like Guiseley and Halifax? It's the fact that people actually use the word boycott that annoys me. If they just decide they're not enjoying it or their money is better spent on getting their washing machine repaired or something, then just have a break from it. To say I'm boycotting is just militant and it stinks of trying to get other people to do like wise. Unlike many other clubs, we have expirenced having no club to support and personally I found that experience horrendous and no matter how turd we might be I will try to do what I can for the club as and when I can.
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Aug 21, 2017 18:22:35 GMT
Proper fans stick with their team. Problem is, you're aiming this at people who actually attend the games and still go regardless of performance. I very much doubt many of DC don't go to games unless it's geographically impossible to attend every game, people such as Norweigan Blue etc. The point can be raised to the club about attendances, but no point whinging to other people who are equally as disappointed with the gates and the performances. I was aiming at people who dessert their team when they're playing bad. Is that really so hard to understand?
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Post by Djruss on Aug 21, 2017 18:54:49 GMT
So we are being slagged off for going to every game......... Ive been watching the blues since the 70's and during the 80's followed them all over the country. I now have a Grandson who takes up a lot of my time, a wedding to pay for next year and work multi shifts which inc weekend working. On top of that Im a keen match angler and like to go away when Im off...... so dont slag me off for not going, I go when I can, and when I want. I went 7 seasons without missing a home game and went to a lot of away games, I was there on the last day of the season when we went down and was also at Garforth when we went up(we were on Holiday at the time too)........ Slagging people off will just drive them away altogether........
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Post by Lobster on Aug 21, 2017 19:35:27 GMT
Problem is, you're aiming this at people who actually attend the games and still go regardless of performance. I very much doubt many of DC don't go to games unless it's geographically impossible to attend every game, people such as Norweigan Blue etc. The point can be raised to the club about attendances, but no point whinging to other people who are equally as disappointed with the gates and the performances. I was aiming at people who dessert their team when they're playing bad. Is that really so hard to understand? Yes it is, given that dessert is another name for pudding.
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Post by waggoner on Aug 21, 2017 19:57:27 GMT
1600 home fans is a disgrace, a fan owned club, need every bit of money you can get, and you turn your back on the club when the going gets tough, half of you don't deserve a club to support, you should be happy you have got a team to go and support, win lose or draw, as long as the players are trying and giving all they can, you should be behind them, I have come away from a match thinking, what a s**t game ie against Halifax, but you know what, they are MY team , I think myself lucky to have a team to support, and will carry on supporting them. I can tell you where the 'missing fans' are. Sitting at home because they are pissed off with the shite we keep getting served up by this incompetent manager. The team itself looks good on paper, but if your manager has not got a clue how to set it up then what chance do they have? The last time we saw a win at home is 17th of december LAST YEAR!. This is 18 home matches without a win (incuding the friendlies this season). There is little improvement from the second part of last season. People are sick of it, and to cap it all JC is having a go at US the fans. The worst thing? We can see what the problem is when we watch ie; hoof ball, missed passes, wrong formation, defending too deep. So why can't he see it?
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Post by sqzl on Aug 21, 2017 21:45:34 GMT
I was aiming at people who dessert their team when they're playing bad. Is that really so hard to understand? Yes it is, given that dessert is another name for pudding. Really chuckled. It is hard to understand though. If you're seriously concerned over attendances email the club don't preach to other fans who are, on the whole, going to games. For what it's worth, I've emailed the club myself just to ask what the plan is to get more fans through the gate given the fall in numbers. If you want I can post a response on here.
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Post by The Angry Agenda on Aug 21, 2017 23:00:30 GMT
Yes we're a fan owned club, and I get the argument that it's our club and if we don't go it's our club that suffers etc... But because so many people didn't go on Saturday, the pressure on the board to do something with regards McCarthy has esculated, as it's a wake up call as to how serious the situation has become. The facts speak for themselves and we all know how long it's been since a home win, but had there been a healthy crowd there on Saturday then I think it would have bought JM more time than he'll get now. There were just as many posts on here straight after the game concerned about the damage the results were doing to the fan base, as there were complaints about the performance itself. I get what people are saying about support the team no matter what, but sometimes by people not going it raises the questions why, sends out a message and may result in direct action being taken.
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