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Post by HairyTriangle on Feb 6, 2017 22:46:46 GMT
I've made no secret of my desire for the club to push on.
To do this we need 1 new centre half 2 outside right/left 1 reliable scorer who can get 20 goals per season.
The club has the money to buy these players.
I urge the club - do it! Don't faff around. Buy these players and watch us soar.
Push on!
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Post by garoldblue on Feb 6, 2017 22:49:35 GMT
I've made no secret of my desire for the club to push on. To do this we need 1 new centre half 2 outside right/left 1 reliable scorer who can get 20 goals per season. The club has the money to buy these players. I urge the club - do it! Don't faff around. Buy these players and watch us soar. Push on! We have arguably two of the best centre halves in the league and one more than adequate replacement, that's before Killock if he can get hit Alabi is a 20 goals a season striker A winger wouldn't go a miss though
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Post by Si on Feb 6, 2017 22:53:12 GMT
We have a winger in Craig Mahon sitting on the bench. Danny O'Brien is on loan who is a wide man too.
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Post by Buckley Blue on Feb 6, 2017 22:54:09 GMT
20 goals a season strikers will be hard to find
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Post by HairyTriangle on Feb 6, 2017 23:05:08 GMT
We have a winger in Craig Mahon sitting on the bench. Danny O'Brien is on loan who is a wide man too. No disrespect mate, but our centre halves are nowhere near league 2 standard. We need to invest in this area.
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Post by brettpaton23 on Feb 6, 2017 23:09:04 GMT
We have a winger in Craig Mahon sitting on the bench. Danny O'Brien is on loan who is a wide man too. No disrespect mate, but our centre halves are nowhere near league 2 standard. We need to invest in this area. How many games without conceding did we have with said centre backs?
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Post by HairyTriangle on Feb 6, 2017 23:09:35 GMT
LOL. my response was meant to Garold Blue's post.
You're all keen to disagree with me but I don't care, I can see what the club needs to do.
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Post by Si on Feb 6, 2017 23:10:07 GMT
We have a winger in Craig Mahon sitting on the bench. Danny O'Brien is on loan who is a wide man too. No disrespect mate, but our centre halves are nowhere near league 2 standard. We need to invest in this area. Can't say I agree with that. Before Xmas we had one of the best defensive records in the country, and had that amazing run of clean sheets. Astles has been magnificent, Hughes has got all sort of scouts flocking to see him. I'm not convinced by Hudson and think that Astles does suffer when he isn't partnered with Sam. As another has mentioned, we all know Killock is a decent player if (and its a big if) he can get himself sorted. Alabi will be pushing near 20 goals by the end of the season, but would suggest we need an upgrade to go alongside him, or at least competition.
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Post by Shrewd Blue on Feb 6, 2017 23:15:41 GMT
There aren't many better CB pairings than Hughes and Astles in this league, if any. Killock (if he's ever fit) and Hudson are morethan adequate cover considering the budget we have.
Alabi is a 20 goal a season striker. I believe Akintunde could be as well if he stayed fit and had a run of games.
Looking ahead, we definitely need a good RB. Vassell is great but he isn't ours permanently unfortuantely. Centre mid is another area where we desperately need cover as George is still quite inconsistent (though he was class on Saturday). Shaw is great but he can't do it all on his own.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 6:13:59 GMT
We clearly don't have the money otherwise we'd be buying/bringing in better players than we already have!
Oh sorry! I forgot, we have a RESERVE!
I still can't believe some fans still dont realise the importance of the reserve and would rather us splash on players who will likely be gone after 1 season.
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Post by Cestrian For Life on Feb 7, 2017 7:03:13 GMT
We clearly don't have the money otherwise we'd be buying/bringing in better players than we already have! Oh sorry! I forgot, we have a RESERVE! I still can't believe some fans still dont realise the importance of the reserve and would rather us splash on players who will likely be gone after 1 season. Agreed. We have to live within our means. Spending £1 million + is no guarantee of success. Just look at all the big money teams in our League. Lincoln are showing them that a team spirit and a quality young manager are the way to go. Their budget is probably not insignificant but will be funded by their crowds unlike the FGR's of this League. We have to accept that we have a small budget but if Macca keeps working his magic, we can at least consolidate and hopefully build this young squad into a Team that can compete consistently in the top half of the League.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Feb 7, 2017 7:16:58 GMT
We already have a 20 goal a season striker in Alabi, although we could offer more competition. We have good wingers, even Mahon's on the bench and we have probably the 2 best centre-backs in the league, with a decent replacement. As Macca has said he is happy with our squad, and their is not much need for changes.
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Post by Al on Feb 7, 2017 7:21:37 GMT
The only thing I would do (if there was room in the budget without spending any other money) would be to bring in another forward as competition whilst Akintunde gets fit. Richards could do with a bit more competition for a place in the lineup and we could revert to the successful 442
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 8:02:11 GMT
Is this out of the 300k you tell us the board are hiding Slowly but surely Jon McCarthy is improving our squad. Continuing to add players in the close season etc, and see where that takes us. Going out and buying half a squad is a very Burr thing to do, and we ALL know how that ends up, don't we?
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Post by Hannibal on Feb 7, 2017 8:24:40 GMT
We have a winger in Craig Mahon sitting on the bench. Danny O'Brien is on loan who is a wide man too. No disrespect mate, but our centre halves are nowhere near league 2 standard. We need to invest in this area. We're not in League 2. We rarely play our Championship-standard CH in his correct/most influential position. Oh and by the way we're skint.
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Post by garoldblue on Feb 7, 2017 8:42:05 GMT
We have a winger in Craig Mahon sitting on the bench. Danny O'Brien is on loan who is a wide man too. No disrespect mate, but our centre halves are nowhere near league 2 standard. We need to invest in this area. We aren't in league 2 and they are arguably the best pairing in THIS league which is what matters. What's the 300k you keep talking about?
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Post by petobay on Feb 7, 2017 8:45:56 GMT
We have a winger in Craig Mahon sitting on the bench. Danny O'Brien is on loan who is a wide man too. No disrespect mate, but our centre halves are nowhere near league 2 standard. We need to invest in this area. But i thought we are in the Conference?
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Post by billyw on Feb 7, 2017 10:05:49 GMT
All we needed to push for a play-off place was a striker to play with Alabi, which is why it's do bloody annoying that we didn't go for Adam Morgan who must have been on peanuts at Curzon. A golden opportunity missed.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 10:32:23 GMT
Whilst I'm generally OK with the idea of "speculate to accumulate", the problem of being a fan-owned club is that our revenue streams are somewhat limited compared with bank-rolled clubs (no names mentioned) In reality, the "big" money is going to be from a Cup run, see Sutton etc and to some extent it is not totally in our hands e.g draw, TV games etc. Therefore, IF we went out and bought e.g. a new striker (and most of them don't come cheap) and it turned out to be a duff purchase, we've got nobody to run to for a top-up and/or more "investment" In my view,we should take a more steady, longer term approach and let Macca manage as he sees fit within this strategy.
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Post by ted the count on Feb 7, 2017 12:00:47 GMT
To the o.p yeah whatever mate.It isnt going to happen so just move along with yer life.We are where we are and i happen to think it's a success given where we have had to start from - NOTHING!
There is no way our club and probably half the team's in this league could manage financially in league 2.Look at Newport and their windfall...where are they now?BOTTOM of league 2.
Wish it was as easy as you say.
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Post by Charfield Blue on Feb 7, 2017 12:16:43 GMT
There's one big flaw with the OP's idea and that is bringing in new players does not guarantee success. There's clubs spending 5 times what we are this season that will still not get promotion. I think one of the reasons for our relative success this year has been the limited squad numbers. One things for sure, we would have to do more than blow our reserve, in one fell swoop, if we wanted a guaranteed 20 goal a season man. Not to mention ripping up any pay structure.
Carry on as you are Macca!
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Post by sqzl on Feb 7, 2017 12:46:06 GMT
No disrespect mate, but our centre halves are nowhere near league 2 standard. We need to invest in this area. Can't say I agree with that. Before Xmas we had one of the best defensive records in the country, and had that amazing run of clean sheets. Astles has been magnificent, Hughes has got all sort of scouts flocking to see him. I'm not convinced by Hudson and think that Astles does suffer when he isn't partnered with Sam. As another has mentioned, we all know Killock is a decent player if (and its a big if) he can get himself sorted. Alabi will be pushing near 20 goals by the end of the season, but would suggest we need an upgrade to go alongside him, or at least competition. Our problem isn't with our defence. I'd say we need a natural left winger. With the resources available to us, we're doing very well even with a thin squad and a lot of injuries. I don;t understand how it's being said we have the money to sign a 20 goal striker, a centre back and two wingers lol! Alabi will hit 20 IMO, or very close.
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Post by Dodge on Feb 7, 2017 13:16:34 GMT
There's one big flaw with the OP's idea and that is bringing in new players does not guarantee success. There's clubs spending 5 times what we are this season that will still not get promotion. I think one of the reasons for our relative success this year has been the limited squad numbers. One things for sure, we would have to do more than blow our reserve, in one fell swoop, if we wanted a guaranteed 20 goal a season man. Not to mention ripping up any pay structure. Carry on as you are Macca! Only one big flaw?! Utter madness that anyone is of that opinion.
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Post by ctid on Feb 7, 2017 13:17:13 GMT
We need another striker ASAP
How can we operate with 2?!
Surely we can get a 'free loan' in?
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Post by soulseal on Feb 7, 2017 13:35:06 GMT
I am very happy with the progress of the team at the moment. We are progressing without burning bridges. I would say we need another 6 or 7 players to be competitive even at this level, enough to be in a a serious shout of promotion.
We have played very well at times but it is our strength in depth that we suffer from, with injuries and suspensions.
If next season we can have more productivity from the budget that covers George, Horwood, Akintunde, Killock and Vassell then we could be at that competitive level. I trust Macca to make the right choices to devlelop the squad sensibly.
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Post by Johnnybling on Feb 7, 2017 13:42:15 GMT
There's one big flaw with the OP's idea and that is bringing in new players does not guarantee success. There's clubs spending 5 times what we are this season that will still not get promotion. I think one of the reasons for our relative success this year has been the limited squad numbers. One things for sure, we would have to do more than blow our reserve, in one fell swoop, if we wanted a guaranteed 20 goal a season man. Not to mention ripping up any pay structure. Carry on as you are Macca! Newport lottery winner pulled the plug hence they are where they are now
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Post by iandychesterfc on Feb 7, 2017 14:00:19 GMT
Think We've got great cover at CB with 4 - 6 players capable of playing there (hudson, astles, hughes, killock, george, vassell)
Macca built from the back and we are a little short out wide and up front, albeit they tend to be the more expensive positions.
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Post by chesterken on Feb 7, 2017 14:34:14 GMT
We need another striker ASAP How can we operate with 2?! Surely we can get a 'free loan' in? No such thing as a free loan these days
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Post by bluefrombirth on Feb 7, 2017 15:50:36 GMT
1 in 1 out. That's all we can afford. Need we not forget, that Waters and Evans only have contracts due to Swettenhams stumping up the money, and you can add Cal Mac into that equation too. We've already made the biggest signing we could do, in committing Macca to a couple of seasons here. Trust his judgement come the end of this season, as to who to retain and who not, most will get better offers elsewhere, so retention is the real priority.
That said, we can't afford to pass up the opportunities of signing players of Adam Morgans ilk to regularly. With Morgan in-particular, the profit Halifax are likely to make when they sell him on in one or two seasons, is likely to be in the region of our entire years playing budget, if not more.
A combination of purchasing promising players from lower leagues, developing our own in the likes of Sam and Matty, and picking up the odd journeyman or premier league academy reject, is the only way to ensure that we are successful on the pitch and as a business.
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