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Post by bonecrusher on Aug 27, 2017 8:49:45 GMT
I would agree with that to some extent. It's difficult to blame the supporters though. The disgruntlement that is evident is only as a desperate result of abysmal results and performances which are not the fault of the fans. Now however, the moanings starts pretty quickly and that is affecting the players. It's become a bit of a vicious circle now to be honest. I'm hoping once we break it with a couple of home wins then we can kick on. Picking up points at home is crucial to us. To a point I could understand the moaning at the end of last season. We then had all the optimism over the summer, not a particular bad start, more just average and everyone is back on their backs. He deserves more than 4 games before the fans get on his back The first half against Sutton was way below average. But yeah I get your point. |
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Post by blue4life on Aug 27, 2017 9:17:27 GMT
Fantastic result today Bob, made up to collect 3 points which was more than the pounds equivalent I picked up from the races today! Have only scanned through the pages on here tonight, sounds like we rode our luck first half but were much better in the second half. I respect your support in relation to McCarthy which seems to be regardless of results on the pitch, I do hope this can be the catalyst to push on and hopefully gain our first win at home this year against Macc. Have had a couple of shandies today and I don't know you from Adam but I can find you a little patronising and provocative on here. No offence meant by the way. No offense taken Noddy. I never went but it sounded a better performance. Hopefully its a sign of things to come. You didn't go to a chester game now there's a shock. |
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Post by tarvinblue on Aug 27, 2017 9:52:21 GMT
JM 'Manager of the Day' in the Non League Paper!
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Post by Hannibal on Aug 27, 2017 10:27:38 GMT
JM 'Manager of the Day' in the Non League Paper! I hope that has the right affect on him. Hoping he realises that the negative tactics only work if you have the right players who when they get the ball play it out of defence and keep possession. |
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Post by tarvinblue on Aug 27, 2017 10:57:57 GMT
JM 'Manager of the Day' in the Non League Paper! I hope that has the right affect on him. Hoping he realises that the negative tactics only work if you have the right players who when they get the ball play it out of defence and keep possession. I would assume the decision was made purely on the result because the match report suggests we were very lucky. Aa you say, we have seen two examples in two games of what can be achieved when we are positive, keep possession and look to get at teams. |
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Post by agl on Aug 27, 2017 10:58:39 GMT
JM 'Manager of the Day' in the Non League Paper! That's priceless. Bet that had you and a few others choking on your cornflakes this morning Tarvin? Someone should have told them that a) it's down to luck when we do well and b) we only do well when the players ignore the manager and do their own thing. |
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Post by tarvinblue on Aug 27, 2017 11:54:57 GMT
JM 'Manager of the Day' in the Non League Paper! That's priceless. Bet that had you and a few others choking on your cornflakes this morning Tarvin? Someone should have told them that a) it's down to luck when we do well and b) we only do well when the players ignore the manager and do their own thing. We won one game of football - it changes nothing. Go on a decent run, lift ourselves into a mid table position, play positively and I might change my opinion of him. Yesterday was a fantastic result but let's not kid ourselves. I'm a little unsure of what point you are trying to make, anyway? Are you suggesting that, based on a decent second half yesterday, he's the man for the job? |
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Post by Johnnybling on Aug 27, 2017 11:56:25 GMT
Done think so 🙄
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Post by agl on Aug 27, 2017 12:56:05 GMT
That's priceless. Bet that had you and a few others choking on your cornflakes this morning Tarvin? Someone should have told them that a) it's down to luck when we do well and b) we only do well when the players ignore the manager and do their own thing. We won one game of football - it changes nothing. Go on a decent run, lift ourselves into a mid table position, play positively and I might change my opinion of him. Yesterday was a fantastic result but let's not kid ourselves. I'm a little unsure of what point you are trying to make, anyway? Are you suggesting that, based on a decent second half yesterday, he's the man for the job? The point I'm making is that some people won't give the man any credit whatever happens. Your grudging acceptance of an away win being a classic example. Focus on the negatives, ignore the positives. I'm not sure if he is the man for the job (I actually doubt it) but he should be given a chance. |
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Post by billyw on Aug 27, 2017 13:06:17 GMT
That's priceless. Bet that had you and a few others choking on your cornflakes this morning Tarvin? Someone should have told them that a) it's down to luck when we do well and b) we only do well when the players ignore the manager and do their own thing. We won one game of football - it changes nothing. Go on a decent run, lift ourselves into a mid table position, play positively and I might change my opinion of him. Yesterday was a fantastic result but let's not kid ourselves. I'm a little unsure of what point you are trying to make, anyway? Are you suggesting that, based on a decent second half yesterday, he's the man for the job? Spot on. It makes me laugh when the happy Clappers come on here after one win, completely ignoring the fact that in the first 45 minutes we never got out of our own half and Aldershot hitting the woodwork 3 times. A good display in the second half and I really think the players we have are good enough to hold their own in this league if the right tactics are employed. Taking account of his record since Christmas, it takes more than an occasional decent 45 minutes to convince me that McCarthy is a football manager so let's see what tomorrow brings. Let's hope he surprises us and gives us a decent 90minutes. |
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Post by roman on Aug 27, 2017 13:12:07 GMT
No offense taken Noddy. I never went but it sounded a better performance. Hopefully its a sign of things to come. You didn't go to a chester game now there's a shock. Haha did you Victor Meldrew. Or are you boycotting till the manager goes haha. Keep going with your negative attitude its really helping the club. You must be hard to live with. |
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Post by roman on Aug 27, 2017 13:22:54 GMT
Yes .... one swallow doesn't make a summer. I'll sleep well on the back of an unexpected away win, but we need to get a rare win against the Silkmen for it pto be of any use. [br Haha well said zipper and fair play john. At least you give credit where its due. Unlike some of the boneheads on this site. Even if we get a result Monday they wont be happy. Its in their head now. Hopefully they will go back to moaning about the pies again. |
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Post by tarvinblue on Aug 27, 2017 14:10:48 GMT
We won one game of football - it changes nothing. Go on a decent run, lift ourselves into a mid table position, play positively and I might change my opinion of him. Yesterday was a fantastic result but let's not kid ourselves. I'm a little unsure of what point you are trying to make, anyway? Are you suggesting that, based on a decent second half yesterday, he's the man for the job? The point I'm making is that some people won't give the man any credit whatever happens. Your grudging acceptance of an away win being a classic example. Focus on the negatives, ignore the positives. I'm not sure if he is the man for the job (I actually doubt it) but he should be given a chance. If you read my posts, I've been very positive about the result and the effort of the players. I'm delighted for the team and the club as a whole - we desperately needed thoself 3 points. We were dreadful for 45 minutes but the players turned it around. I'm not going to wax lyrical on a manager that got lucky and who has been named Manager of the Day based on a journalist looking at a results sheet. I'll commend him when I see evidence that it's his impact that is affecting results e.g. we set up and have a go at teams from the off. |
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Post by chaos on Aug 27, 2017 14:44:51 GMT
Have you thought that yours and others negative attitude is part of the reason we find it more difficult at home? No! You'd be wrong. If you don't understand that people shouting abuse at players for 90 minutes instead of supporting them could have a negative affect on their performances then, quite frankly, you're a moron. |
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Post by southernblue on Aug 27, 2017 15:25:24 GMT
Win our game in hand and we are a point off the playoffs. I swear that if we are in a playoff position at Easter there will be fans that will be pissed off because it would mean JM stays in a job.
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Post by blue4life on Aug 27, 2017 15:30:13 GMT
You didn't go to a chester game now there's a shock. Haha did you Victor Meldrew. Or are you boycotting till the manager goes haha. Keep going with your negative attitude its really helping the club. You must be hard to live with. Ok Bob whatever you say Bob you boring old man. |
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Post by agl on Aug 27, 2017 17:08:42 GMT
The point I'm making is that some people won't give the man any credit whatever happens. Your grudging acceptance of an away win being a classic example. Focus on the negatives, ignore the positives. I'm not sure if he is the man for the job (I actually doubt it) but he should be given a chance. If you read my posts, I've been very positive about the result and the effort of the players. I'm delighted for the team and the club as a whole - we desperately needed thoself 3 points. We were dreadful for 45 minutes but the players turned it around. I'm not going to wax lyrical on a manager that got lucky and who has been named Manager of the Day based on a journalist looking at a results sheet. I'll commend him when I see evidence that it's his impact that is affecting results e.g. we set up and have a go at teams from the off. Playing devil's advocate, you could also argue that the players were rubbish in the first half. The manager changed the system in the second half and turned the game round. And I do read your posts ...they are all the same though. |
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Post by roman on Aug 27, 2017 17:55:50 GMT
Haha did you Victor Meldrew. Or are you boycotting till the manager goes haha. Keep going with your negative attitude its really helping the club. You must be hard to live with. Ok Bob whatever you say Bob you boring old man. Haha honestly blue4life i think your brilliant x |
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Post by roman on Aug 27, 2017 17:56:48 GMT
If you read my posts, I've been very positive about the result and the effort of the players. I'm delighted for the team and the club as a whole - we desperately needed thoself 3 points. We were dreadful for 45 minutes but the players turned it around. I'm not going to wax lyrical on a manager that got lucky and who has been named Manager of the Day based on a journalist looking at a results sheet. I'll commend him when I see evidence that it's his impact that is affecting results e.g. we set up and have a go at teams from the off. Playing devil's advocate, you could also argue that the players were rubbish in the first half. The manager changed the system in the second half and turned the game round. And I do read your posts ...they are all the same though. Youll never win him dude he was born negative. He lives a sad existence |
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Post by billyw on Aug 27, 2017 19:23:04 GMT
Haha did you Victor Meldrew. Or are you boycotting till the manager goes haha. Keep going with your negative attitude its really helping the club. You must be hard to live with. Ok Bob whatever you say Bob you boring old man. I'm not convinced that roman is the original roman i.e. Bob Gray. Bob was seen as Vaughan's lackie but he is a mature man and I find it hard to believe that a man of his age would post like a semi literate abusuve youngster. He also claims to attend matches but if it was Bob Gray, he would be recognised - has anyone seen him at the games. |
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Post by blue4life on Aug 27, 2017 19:25:48 GMT
Playing devil's advocate, you could also argue that the players were rubbish in the first half. The manager changed the system in the second half and turned the game round. And I do read your posts ...they are all the same though. Youll never win him dude he was born negative. He lives a sad existence Are you still breathing Bob? |
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Post by dmcnally on Aug 27, 2017 21:20:50 GMT
The point I'm making is that some people won't give the man any credit whatever happens. Your grudging acceptance of an away win being a classic example. Focus on the negatives, ignore the positives. I'm not sure if he is the man for the job (I actually doubt it) but he should be given a chance. If you read my posts, I've been very positive about the result and the effort of the players. I'm delighted for the team and the club as a whole - we desperately needed thoself 3 points. We were dreadful for 45 minutes but the players turned it around. I'm not going to wax lyrical on a manager that got lucky and who has been named Manager of the Day based on a journalist looking at a results sheet. I'll commend him when I see evidence that it's his impact that is affecting results e.g. we set up and have a go at teams from the off. Plenty of praise for JM and the rest of the Chester management on Aldershot's forum. Maybe it wasn't the players who turned it round. Many of their fans saying our tactics were spot on. Don't come back calling me a JM lover as I'm not but it's only fair to give credit where's it's due. Here's an example from their forum; As others have said the second half was a complete shambles, however we have to give Chester and their manager credit. After running riot in the first half Cheye Alexander was man marked for the rest of the game. This completely stopped us building from the back, and attacking with width, leading to all the long balls. Chester's management identified that Arthur isn't comfortable bringing the ball forward from the back, so largely left him free. |
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Post by peterkaysock on Aug 27, 2017 23:25:12 GMT
Don't agree on boo'ing players. Think that has a negative effect.
Sounds like we struggled a lot in the game, serious look at our tactics.
Hope it works out for Macca if I'm honest. Only want the club to do well.
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Post by Derry Blue on Aug 28, 2017 7:33:50 GMT
You'd be wrong. If you don't understand that people shouting abuse at players for 90 minutes instead of supporting them could have a negative affect on their performances then, quite frankly, you're a moron. Welcome to DC2 you insulting person. You'll do well with a range of epithets like that. |
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Post by Derry Blue on Aug 28, 2017 7:43:29 GMT
You'd be wrong. If you don't understand that people shouting abuse at players for 90 minutes instead of supporting them could have a negative affect on their performances then, quite frankly, you're a moron. Welcome to DC2 you insulting person. You'll do well with a range of epithets like that. Sorry, bit of a knee jerk to the word 'moron'. Response should have been that no one seems to be blaming the players and that's quite right. Most, I think, now realise the problem lies with our manager. No one as far as I know is advocating booing the players at all, let alone for 90 minutes. Still 'chaos' you got the chance to be rude to someone from the safety of your keyboard. Hope it made you feel like a big tough guy. |
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Post by sqzl on Aug 28, 2017 7:50:55 GMT
Jesus Christ lads are we still arguing about a difference of opinion after the WIN two days ago? Let's chill out a bit and hopefully enjoy a more forward thinking approach today. I can't see if happening with no fit striker but we showed a fair bit of attacking intent without a striker a couple of days ago. In fairness to Dawson he's been a real asset for us since signing, and likes a goal too.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 28, 2017 9:23:57 GMT
You'd be wrong. If you don't understand that people shouting abuse at players for 90 minutes instead of supporting them could have a negative affect on their performances then, quite frankly, you're a moron. Except this doesn't actually happen. |
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Post by Al on Aug 28, 2017 9:29:47 GMT
You'd be wrong. If you don't understand that people shouting abuse at players for 90 minutes instead of supporting them could have a negative affect on their performances then, quite frankly, you're a moron. Except this doesn't actually happen. No it doesn't. The only criticism and booing is aimed at the man in charge. If we put in another opening 45 like Sutton, Hartlepool and Aldershot then god help him |
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Post by mcseal on Aug 28, 2017 11:17:09 GMT
Except this doesn't actually happen. No it doesn't. The only criticism and booing is aimed at the man in charge. If we put in another opening 45 like Sutton, Hartlepool and Aldershot then god help him And of course that doesn't affect the atmosphere and the players at all.  |
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Post by Al on Aug 28, 2017 14:02:40 GMT
Didn't say it wouldn't affect them did I smart arse.
The poster above slated fans for booing players, which is factually incorrect.
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