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Post by bluboy79 on Aug 28, 2017 20:26:43 GMT
Why on earth is Tom Shaw not featuring in games, he is only 31 !!!! We have a small squad and he is needed, was one of our better players last season and can chip in with goals. Tom should be playing instead of Turnbull who has been poor so far and needs dropping.
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Post by noddy on Aug 28, 2017 20:30:24 GMT
I'll reserve judgement on the new recruits until we have a manager who is capable of managing, who plays players in the correct positions and formations! Oh and they need to be fitter as well as a unit, some more than others need to look at themselves conditioning wise too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 20:57:30 GMT
On a playing contract, should be playing.
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Post by bonecrusher on Aug 28, 2017 21:02:38 GMT
I find it staggering, and almost beyond any belief that Wade Joyce is getting a game before Tom Shaw.
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Post by noddy on Aug 28, 2017 21:14:16 GMT
I find it staggering, and almost beyond any belief that Wade Joyce is getting a game before Tom Shaw. Almost as much as a guy who at 31 seems happy to take a back seat. Your a long time retired Tom! |
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Post by fabianyantorno on Aug 28, 2017 21:16:16 GMT
Why on earth is Tom Shaw not featuring in games, he is only 31 !!!! We have a small squad and he is needed, was one of our better players last season and can chip in with goals. Tom should be playing instead of Turnbull who has been poor so far and needs dropping. Ludicrous. A half fit Tom Shaw is better than Waste of a Wage Joyce. Never has or will be good enough to wear the shirt. |
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Post by dmcnally on Aug 28, 2017 21:30:00 GMT
Get your boots back on Tommy boy. Your boss is about to lose his job and a new manager will be arriving soon with his own assistant. We need you on the pitch - quality player for us, he is.
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Post by noddy on Aug 28, 2017 21:34:04 GMT
Get your boots back on Tommy boy. Your boss is about to lose his job and a new manager will be arriving soon with his own assistant. We need you on the pitch - quality player for us, he is. As NWAS as stated, Tom is on a playing contract, rather than an assistant managers one. Luckily for him for the reason you have mentioned! |
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Post by MPW on Aug 28, 2017 21:59:26 GMT
Tom was a key player for us last season and its a bit of a headloss that he has shunned playing so quickly when he's only 31. Especially when you see Danny Whitaker running rings around us at the age of 36!
From what I've seen Shaw is better than Turnbull, so he should be playing alongside James. Joyce should never been offered a deal in the first place and his wage would have been better spent on a versatile defender.
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Post by marner93 on Aug 28, 2017 22:20:46 GMT
Tom was a key player for us last season and its a bit of a headloss that he has shunned playing so quickly when he's only 31. Especially when you see Danny Whitaker running rings around us at the age of 36! From what I've seen Shaw is better than Turnbull, so he should be playing alongside James. Joyce should never been offered a deal in the first place and his wage would have been better spent on a versatile defender.A new left back. |
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Post by steveo1 on Aug 28, 2017 22:51:48 GMT
Tom was a key player for us last season and its a bit of a headloss that he has shunned playing so quickly when he's only 31. Especially when you see Danny Whitaker running rings around us at the age of 36! From what I've seen Shaw is better than Turnbull, so he should be playing alongside James. Joyce should never been offered a deal in the first place and his wage would have been better spent on a versatile defender. Danny Whittaker never seems to get older, he's ran rings around us for years and is still doing so, seems to get better and better with age. |
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Post by jb on Aug 28, 2017 23:07:03 GMT
Tom was a key player for us last season and its a bit of a headloss that he has shunned playing so quickly when he's only 31. Especially when you see Danny Whitaker running rings around us at the age of 36! From what I've seen Shaw is better than Turnbull, so he should be playing alongside James. Joyce should never been offered a deal in the first place and his wage would have been better spent on a versatile defender. Danny Whittaker never seems to get older, he's ran rings around us for years and is still doing so, seems to get better and better with age. Give McCarthy a pre-season with Whitaker and he would easily turn him from a decent midfielder into an unfit lumbering cart horse. Bet that's why Whitaker declined Chester's approach. Halls looked decent last season but McCarthy's tactics have made him look abject today. Turnbull looks a pale shadow of the player from last season as well. |
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Post by MOC on Aug 29, 2017 8:00:55 GMT
Nothing against Shaw as a player or person but I wish the club had taken a harder line with McCarthy over his choice of assistant in the summer and pushed him towards bringing in an experienced figure who could help both him and the club. If McCarthy felt undermined by that then he could have had few complaints after the way last season ended. I guess money is one of the problems regarding the choice of assistant though, the club not being able to afford employing someone who would effectively be a second manager.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 8:43:02 GMT
Tom was a key player for us last season and its a bit of a headloss that he has shunned playing so quickly when he's only 31. Especially when you see Danny Whitaker running rings around us at the age of 36! From what I've seen Shaw is better than Turnbull, so he should be playing alongside James. Joyce should never been offered a deal in the first place and his wage would have been better spent on a versatile defender.A new left back. Waters is a perfectly capable full back, just needs games. Better than Rowe-Turner who plays too narrow, almost as a third centre half and is constantly caught out of position. Mondays first goal being an example. I think LRT would make a perfectly good left sided centre half. |
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Post by cfcforme on Aug 29, 2017 9:05:32 GMT
I find it staggering, and almost beyond any belief that Wade Joyce is getting a game before Tom Shaw. Almost as much as a guy who at 31 seems happy to take a back seat. Your a long time retired Tom! Put yourself in his shoes though, his future is clearly in coaching which he has little experience in, so that's where he would prefer to be selfishly. Not defending it, not saying it's right for the club... |
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Post by silverseal on Aug 29, 2017 9:18:37 GMT
I too was surprised that Tom did not start this match, or at least come on at some stage if, as the manager said in his post match press conference that this was a "tired performance". Surely Tom cannot be tired as he hasn't featured yet and must be continuing to train.
I do have genuine sympathy re our striker situation and surely it can only happen at Chester that all four of our strike force are out with injury so early in the season? To me it was a double whammy having to play Dawson and James up front in the absence of any other recognised strikers being available. This meant that not only did we have these two players playing out of position but at the same time we lost the heart of our midfield energy and creativity. I am not one for disparaging players but in all fairness neither Joyce or Turnbull are up to Tom Shaw's standards in my humble opinion and I thought he was one of our better/best players last season. Why then, with a depleted squad, not play to our strengths?
Our other two midfielders in Chappel and Mahon, are really wingers and need to be played out wide to best suit their play but they seem to be ordered to play narrow, which is not their natural game and this in turn leaves the fullbacks in Halls and Rowe-Turner exposed.
Also, if Akintunde was on the bench and was deemed fit enough to feature for at least part of the game then why not play him from the start when he could have made a difference and then bring him off when necessary , rather than throwing him on when we had gone two down and were chasing the game from then on?
I know we can all be football managers but these seem a few obvious points to me, oh, apart from keeping somebody up when defending corners! |
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Post by marner93 on Aug 29, 2017 9:41:58 GMT
Waters is a perfectly capable full back, just needs games. Better than Rowe-Turner who plays too narrow, almost as a third centre half and is constantly caught out of position. Mondays first goal being an example. I think LRT would make a perfectly good left sided centre half. Rowe Turner would make a perfectly good bin man. |
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