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Post by gone4eva on Aug 28, 2017 22:27:51 GMT
I would link to the standard article but the site is a ad filled shite fest nowadays - the chronicle loads better to put it into perspective!
Anyway McCarthy was asked some questions by sports reporter as is their job. This is his reply:
“I’m disappointed (with that question), we’ve won at Aldershot so we’ve tried to do the same thing again,” he said.
“I’ve tried to mention the numbers. You (the press) know exactly what you’re doing and the fans have been amazing. You’ve tried to create negativity between me and the fans, I’ve never had negativity towards them.
“You did an article in the summer where you tried to create negativity between me and the fans. I’ve been nothing but positive and I turned that situation around with the signings we brought in and the fans have been brilliant. I called for them again, they sang for me and you must’ve seen me acknowledge that right throughout the game.
“It’s unfair to create that type of relationship. If you’ve got an agenda then that’s fine but I’ve not got an agenda, I completely support this football club.
“It was a tired performance, everything was flat, we never got the energy levels going that we wanted. The fans were outstanding, they sang and sang to get us going.
“All I can offer up is it’s tired performance. We have 13 or 14 fit players, but I got a result, a win, two days ago and I’ll take your 14 games and say we ended Aldershot’s run of 14 home games (with defeat).”
McCarthy is cracking up!
Blaming the press is a joke, the chron is dipping circulations and its impossible to get a copy of the standard unless you are lurking by a car wash nowadays. They are hardly setting agendas and swaying the few that still go...
What were the fans singing eh?
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Post by steveo1 on Aug 28, 2017 22:49:34 GMT
Well various shouted to him but the main chant was OUT, OUT, OUT repeat from the majority that stayed behind.
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Aug 29, 2017 5:01:15 GMT
If the board won't act to save our season, maybe they should just do it to save McCarthy.
He clearly needs putting out of his misery. It's unfair on everybody (including McCarthy) to let this toxic situation linger on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 8:47:51 GMT
Has the manager deleted his twitter account?
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Post by Rio Doherty on Aug 29, 2017 8:56:23 GMT
Has the manager deleted his twitter account? He deleted it a few weeks ago. |
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Post by eyeswideopen on Aug 29, 2017 13:57:32 GMT
The fans sang for me, Ha Ha
You couldn't make that up.
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Post by Matt on Aug 29, 2017 15:38:32 GMT
Just looking back at the interview and the guy is clearly Naïve and I don't understand why he nearly walked out from a clear reasonable question. Regarding the "13 fit players" we have played negative tactics from the start not to mention the cross bar helping us out against Hartlepool. he say's but we haven't been hammered and "we beat Aldershot" these excuses should not keep you in a Job!
I guess he's going to be here for the next game against Torquay which is already a massive game, in the first bloody week of September.. SEPTEMBER.
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Post by paulie on Aug 29, 2017 15:54:26 GMT
Just looking back at the interview and the guy is clearly Naïve and I don't understand why he nearly walked out from a clear reasonable question. Regarding the "13 fit players" we have played negative tactics from the start not to mention the cross bar helping us out against Hartlepool. he say's but we haven't been hammered and "we beat Aldershot" these excuses should not keep you in a Job! I guess he's going to be here for the next game against Torquay which is already a massive game, in the first bloody week of September.. SEPTEMBER. The club have a duty of care, if they care anything if Mcarthys health they would show him the door before he ends up in the nut house. That interview yesterday was embarrassing for the club, he looked scruffy, on edge and was rambling on about absolute nonsense. |
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Post by MPW on Aug 29, 2017 16:45:06 GMT
To be fair, the lads behind the goal were signing 'Jon McCarthy's Blue & White army' at the start of the game.
I said after the match only at Chester would you have fans singing the managers name at the start of a game and chanting 'out out out' at the end!
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Post by Matt on Aug 29, 2017 17:15:10 GMT
To be fair, the lads behind the goal were signing 'Jon McCarthy's Blue & White army' at the start of the game. I said after the match only at Chester would you have fans singing the managers name at the start of a game and chanting 'out out out' at the end! He got what he wanted, the fans singing and cheering on the players, they held their side of the bargain but the Manager and players didn't. |
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Post by thebluecamp on Aug 29, 2017 18:07:14 GMT
Just looking back at the interview and the guy is clearly Naïve and I don't understand why he nearly walked out from a clear reasonable question. Regarding the "13 fit players" we have played negative tactics from the start not to mention the cross bar helping us out against Hartlepool. he say's but we haven't been hammered and "we beat Aldershot" these excuses should not keep you in a Job! I guess he's going to be here for the next game against Torquay which is already a massive game, in the first bloody week of September.. SEPTEMBER. The club have a duty of care, if they care anything if Mcarthys health they would show him the door before he ends up in the nut house. That interview yesterday was embarrassing for the club, he looked scruffy, on edge and was rambling on about absolute nonsense. Whereabouts can the post Macclesfield match interview be found ? |
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Post by Matt on Aug 29, 2017 18:15:51 GMT
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Post by thebluecamp on Aug 29, 2017 18:21:00 GMT
Thanks Matt - but it would appear that the article has either been moved or deleted ! Mmmmmmm...... |
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Post by superman on Aug 29, 2017 18:23:55 GMT
Thought the fans on the Harry Mac were brilliant yesterday and created a vibrant supportive atmosphere. Thought everyone else was generally supportive and tried to stay with the team throughout a poor performance from most of the players. There can be no excuses from the management or players. Tom Shaws antics on the touch line, which I am sure are borne out of frustration, are starting to give out the wrong sort of messages, and the manager well enough said. Like most I have suffered disappointment, boredom, frustration, and at times anger over the home performances in 2017. On Monday I felt indifference and just shrugged my shoulders. The passion has just been drained out of me. I love live sport as it has the ability to get the blood racing and heart pumping though the endeavours of the participants. Really considering whether to continue using my season ticket under the current regime. I don't just blame the manager, there have been a fair few senior pros who have consistently failed to meet the standards expected over a number of games. For me the one exception has been Ryan Astles who despite his bulk continues to give his all whatever his limitations and clearly cares and is prepared to give everything for the cause.
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Post by Anders on Aug 29, 2017 18:26:01 GMT
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Post by Matt on Aug 29, 2017 18:36:19 GMT
Weird! - it's the same link! |
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Post by Anders on Aug 29, 2017 18:41:24 GMT
Weird! - it's the same link! Yeah, for some reason when you click on it '%C2%A0' appears on the end. Weird indeed. |
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Post by thebluecamp on Aug 29, 2017 18:58:00 GMT
Thanks guys - got there in the end.
Doesn't make good listening, takes eight minutes to say what could be said in one.
In a strange way, I don't doubt his commitment, but he does not come across at all well.
Ah well, let's sit tight and see what transpires.
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Post by thevoice on Aug 29, 2017 19:55:04 GMT
up until yesterday i thought Charlie Croasdale was the quiet of the 2 reporters fair play to him he laid in to that clown and on twitter come on jon stop shying away all we want is answers and not lies
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Post by Lobster on Aug 29, 2017 20:03:25 GMT
For me the one exception has been Ryan Astles who despite his bulk continues to give his all whatever his limitations and clearly cares and is prepared to give everything for the cause. To be fair to Astles, he's a big lad. He can't do anything about his height or broadness, and I don't think people realise how hard it is to look athletic when you're that kind of build. The only real way to do it is to hammer the weights and become a total meathead, but that would probably just make him slower and heavily, and more suited to rugby or American football. |
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Post by jb on Aug 29, 2017 21:33:40 GMT
For me the one exception has been Ryan Astles who despite his bulk continues to give his all whatever his limitations and clearly cares and is prepared to give everything for the cause. To be fair to Astles, he's a big lad. He can't do anything about his height or broadness, and I don't think people realise how hard it is to look athletic when you're that kind of build. The only real way to do it is to hammer the weights and become a total meathead, but that would probably just make him slower and heavily, and more suited to rugby or American football. I'm Astles' biggest fan and we are lucky to have him at the Deva. However, he does need to lose two stone. He can do that through solid cardio work and altering his diet. Given his hard work and commitment on the pitch shouldn't be a problem for the big man. I don't expect him to look like a 'Mens Health' model but if he does lose the extra weight he will follow his former defensive colleagues Heneghan and Hughes up the football ladder. |
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Post by steveo1 on Aug 29, 2017 22:13:18 GMT
Thought the fans on the Harry Mac were brilliant yesterday and created a vibrant supportive atmosphere. Thought everyone else was generally supportive and tried to stay with the team throughout a poor performance from most of the players. There can be no excuses from the management or players. Tom Shaws antics on the touch line, which I am sure are borne out of frustration, are starting to give out the wrong sort of messages, and the manager well enough said. Like most I have suffered disappointment, boredom, frustration, and at times anger over the home performances in 2017. On Monday I felt indifference and just shrugged my shoulders. The passion has just been drained out of me. I love live sport as it has the ability to get the blood racing and heart pumping though the endeavours of the participants. Really considering whether to continue using my season ticket under the current regime. I don't just blame the manager, there have been a fair few senior pros who have consistently failed to meet the standards expected over a number of games. For me the one exception has been Ryan Astles who despite his bulk continues to give his all whatever his limitations and clearly cares and is prepared to give everything for the cause. Drained is a great word to describe the current fan base. We are only six games in and genuinely think things couldn't get any worse than the back end of last season but they are a lot worse. The summer break seems a long time ago now and I need a holiday already. |
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Post by eyeswideopen on Aug 30, 2017 6:16:13 GMT
Back to the original thread topic, I don't normally bother watching interviews, I make my own mind up on the performance I see on the pitch, however with the thread title I was intrigued.
What is clear to see is JM is burying his head in the sand, its almost as if when he gets asked the question (repeatedly) on the poor run of home form, he sticks his fingers in his ears and shouts La La La so he cant hear the question. He refuses to hear the question at times never mind answer it.
He throws the 14 game without a win at home question around several times about the Aldershot result, its almost as if he wont recognize the problem.
And herein lies the problem, his lack of admittance there is one.
I get the four players out injured part and that's unfortunate, but what is he saying about their return?
Nothing, absolute zip.
If he had said I have Ross Hannah out for another week, etc, Harry White out for so long and so on, he could have built up a picture of when we can expect to see some improvement with players coming back, but he didn't, which smacks of a man, so far removed from the problem, he doesn't have the answer.
I was tempted to give the guy a couple more games to turn things around, if I was on the board watching that, I would have seen all I need to know to make a decision on whether he is the right man to get us out of this mess, he clearly isn't.
The boards problem is how do we finance getting out of this mess.
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Post by agl on Aug 30, 2017 10:09:25 GMT
Nail on head.
The board is coming in for a lot of stick but they have a duty to safeguard the club's financial future. I get the argument that attendances will fall etc, so the long term finances suffer if he stays but I can see why they will give Macca as long as possible to turn things round (and longer than they might if they were behaving purely as fans). It's a lower cost option to stick with him, with the (even slight) possibility that there will be an improvement.
There have been calls for a statement - what do you honestly expect them to say? They made a commitment (rightly or wrongly) to JM at the start of the season and it would be somewhat bizarre if they ripped that up after six games. It also sends a poor message to any incoming manager that we have a board who does not back managers. I have some sympathy with Richard on this.
Having said all that I'd be delighted (as a fan)to see JM walk away. I hoped that the second half at Shots was a turning point but apparently not. The players look dejected, tactics are all over the place, he's lost the majority of the fans and he's behaving strangely in his dealings with the media. All the signs of someone who is out of his depth. Most damning of all is that appalling home record. It can't go on. He is on record as saying we have the best squad since we were reformed and yet we have been outplayed by a Macc team who supposedly took our cast offs while we took some of their better players.
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Post by trev on Aug 30, 2017 11:41:28 GMT
Nail on head. The board is coming in for a lot of stick but they have a duty to safeguard the club's financial future. I get the argument that attendances will fall etc, so the long term finances suffer if he stays but I can see why they will give Macca as long as possible to turn things round (and longer than they might if they were behaving purely as fans). It's a lower cost option to stick with him, with the (even slight) possibility that there will be an improvement. There have been calls for a statement - what do you honestly expect them to say? They made a commitment (rightly or wrongly) to JM at the start of the season and it would be somewhat bizarre if they ripped that up after six games. It also sends a poor message to any incoming manager that we have a board who does not back managers. I have some sympathy with Richard on this.Having said all that I'd be delighted (as a fan)to see JM walk away. I hoped that the second half at Shots was a turning point but apparently not. The players look dejected, tactics are all over the place, he's lost the majority of the fans and he's behaving strangely in his dealings with the media. All the signs of someone who is out of his depth. Most damning of all is that appalling home record. It can't go on. He is on record as saying we have the best squad since we were reformed and yet we have been outplayed by a Macc team who supposedly took our cast offs while we took some of their better players. The only rational reason McCarthy hadn’t been justifiably sacked after last season was because of the Board was not prepared (or able) to pay him off at this time due to his contract extension. The Board therefore had little choice but to back him. He has been allowed to sign practically a new first team, which was used to great effect to boost season ticket sales and commercial activity. The reason why many are pressing for change now, is that results have been far worse than expected and performances are no better than last season, and from what I have seen there is little realist prospect that McCarthy has the capability of meeting the minimum requirement of simply avoiding relegation. I find it hard to accept that simply sticking with him simply because this is the “lower cost option” can be in the best interests of the club - unless of course the financial position is far worse than reported. If this is case, how can it be that those with a “duty to safeguard the club's financial future” have agreed such a contract with McCarthy to the Club’s clear detriment?
Turning to the bit I've highlighted , McCarthy has been first team manager for virtually 18 months and before that a key part of the failed Burr regime. Given this, how can we be seen to be a “sacking club”? Indeed, what other clubs would have tolerated such poor results and abysmal level of performance for so long at home? What other club would allow a totally unacceptable position to then continue without any reasonable prospect of improvement, but allow a manager to stay in post who is so demonstrably out of his depth?
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Post by Jack on Aug 30, 2017 17:51:23 GMT
I think it's actually desperation on show in that interview.
In many ways, it's hard to watch because it's a man under great pressure and failing to deal with it. The only way to end this is to put him out of his misery.
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Post by paulie on Aug 30, 2017 18:51:42 GMT
To be fair to Astles, he's a big lad. He can't do anything about his height or broadness, and I don't think people realise how hard it is to look athletic when you're that kind of build. The only real way to do it is to hammer the weights and become a total meathead, but that would probably just make him slower and heavily, and more suited to rugby or American football. I'm Astles' biggest fan and we are lucky to have him at the Deva. However, he does need to lose two stone. He can do that through solid cardio work and altering his diet. Given his hard work and commitment on the pitch shouldn't be a problem for the big man. I don't expect him to look like a 'Mens Health' model but if he does lose the extra weight he will follow his former defensive colleagues Heneghan and Hughes up the football ladder. I believe we have a nutritionist at the club. Surely they could sort out astles diet. He looks as if he does his training sessions in Pizza Hut. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 19:27:42 GMT
looks like he's about to have a breakdown
Jon if you really loved the club step aside do what's best for the supporters and go
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Post by Johnnybling on Sept 2, 2017 15:10:50 GMT
Let's see what he has to say at 16.50 😱
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