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Post by Designer on Aug 31, 2017 10:42:44 GMT
Some of us were there and will remember the scene - it's the Freight Rover at Wrexham and Harry is "as usual", cool as cucumber in the dugout. Colin Woodthorpe thinks he is injured on the touchline and Harry jumps up to comfort him and put an arm around the lads shoulder. No chance - Harry throws Colin back on the pitch and is told in no uncertain terms to get on with it. The manager and the team need to develop a winning mentality very quickly. This always starts with the manager and the way he conducts himself on and off the pitch and facing the media. Get tough John, forget all the excuses and please note a media briefing is exactly that; keep it brief and forget the waffle.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 11:12:10 GMT
I wander what training has been like this week? I'd have had them running up Gorse Hill in bin bags with tractor tyres around them.
On a serious note, you would have thought we'd be working VERY hard every day this week on set pieces. Macc scored from 5 yards out from one despite us having 11 men in the box, and we never threatened from ours until the 92nd minute.
Do your work in the week, get your rewards at the weekend.
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Post by eyeswideopen on Aug 31, 2017 11:21:43 GMT
I remember listening to an interview with Harry on the Radio before a game once and Graham Barrow was out suspended.
Asked if it would affect his formation tactics etc, Harry just simply replied he is "irreplaceable".
How many of our current squad would you say are irreplaceable, I cant think of anyone except Ryan Astles comes close.
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Post by jb on Aug 31, 2017 12:17:17 GMT
I remember listening to an interview with Harry on the Radio before a game once and Graham Barrow was out suspended. Asked if it would affect his formation tactics etc, Harry just simply replied he is "irreplaceable". How many of our current squad would you say are irreplaceable, I cant think of anyone except Ryan Astles comes close. We struggled last season without Hannah. Instead we had to watch Richards act like a petulant child whilst Alabi carried him. I also think that we struggled on Saturday because of the absence of Akintunde. His pace would have beaten that Lowe all ends up. One of the worst defenders I have seen play against Chester but we hardly lay a glove on him. Mahon on his day takes some beating but has been too inconsistent in the past 18 months. However, play him on the right and you will see the best right winger in the league. Agree about Astles. |
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Post by Anders on Aug 31, 2017 12:34:08 GMT
I remember listening to an interview with Harry on the Radio before a game once and Graham Barrow was out suspended. Asked if it would affect his formation tactics etc, Harry just simply replied he is "irreplaceable". How many of our current squad would you say are irreplaceable, I cant think of anyone except Ryan Astles comes close. The second half on Monday was a stark reminder to me of how important Ryan Astles is for us. After he departed the back four to head off up front we became a complete shambles back there. Look, you can forgive them for looking a bit unfamiliar with each other with LRT in the middle and Waters brought in, but it looked calamitous and I'm surprised we didn't concede more. |
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Post by Lobster on Aug 31, 2017 12:35:27 GMT
On the theme of a winning mentality, someone recently mentioned that the last time we won back to back fixtures was last November. In fact, I don't even think we've had a run of four points from two games since then.
It often strikes me that McCarthy views games in blocks and has a number of points in mind for a set of fixtures. He probably sees last weekend as a success because we took three points from two games. This leads to a tendency to use a good performance to excuse a bad one, or even several bad ones, and adopt a "we've done enough" attitude that we kept seeing last season when we were grounded on 54 points. It's a poor attitude, as sportspeople should always be desperate to follow up one good performance with another.
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Post by bing on Aug 31, 2017 12:42:04 GMT
I agree that a winning mentality never did anyone any harm. Put it this way, in the 78/79 season Liverpool used just 15 players for the whole 42 match season - unthinkable now! It was just a case of get out there and do the business - no excuses, no talk of player fatigue or rotation.
Regarding Barrow being "irreplaceable" - I dread to think of the reaction there would be on here if JM said that about anyone!
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Post by noddy on Aug 31, 2017 12:46:47 GMT
I agree that a winning mentality never did anyone any harm. Put it this way, in the 78/79 season Liverpool used just 15 players for the whole 42 match season - unthinkable now! It was just a case of get out there and do the business - no excuses, no talk of player fatigue or rotation. Regarding Barrow being "irreplaceable" - I dread to think of the reaction there would be on here if JM said that about anyone! The way McCarthy is at the moment he would probably say it about himself! |
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Post by maccfan on Aug 31, 2017 13:29:15 GMT
I remember listening to an interview with Harry on the Radio before a game once and Graham Barrow was out suspended. Asked if it would affect his formation tactics etc, Harry just simply replied he is "irreplaceable". How many of our current squad would you say are irreplaceable, I cant think of anyone except Ryan Astles comes close. We struggled last season without Hannah. Instead we had to watch Richards act like a petulant child whilst Alabi carried him. I also think that we struggled on Saturday because of the absence of Akintunde. His pace would have beaten that Lowe all ends up. One of the worst defenders I have seen play against Chester but we hardly lay a glove on him. Mahon on his day takes some beating but has been too inconsistent in the past 18 months. However, play him on the right and you will see the best right winger in the league. Agree about Astles. If Lowe, with his 200 plus football league games, is one of the worst defenders you've seen playing Chester then you must've had some bloody decent sides turning up! I could name a truckload worse who I've seen at Macc (you've signed two of them!). He's not the quickest on the turn, I'll give you that. Whatever has happened with Mahon btw? I've seen him a couple of times before and been impressed but he doesn't seem to have really 'kicked on'. |
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Post by Lobster on Aug 31, 2017 13:55:47 GMT
We struggled last season without Hannah. Instead we had to watch Richards act like a petulant child whilst Alabi carried him. I also think that we struggled on Saturday because of the absence of Akintunde. His pace would have beaten that Lowe all ends up. One of the worst defenders I have seen play against Chester but we hardly lay a glove on him. Mahon on his day takes some beating but has been too inconsistent in the past 18 months. However, play him on the right and you will see the best right winger in the league. Agree about Astles. If Lowe, with his 200 plus football league games, is one of the worst defenders you've seen playing Chester then you must've had some bloody decent sides turning up! I could name a truckload worse who I've seen at Macc (you've signed two of them!). He's not the quickest on the turn, I'll give you that. Whatever has happened with Mahon btw? I've seen him a couple of times before and been impressed but he doesn't seem to have really 'kicked on'. Been a bit hampered with injuries the last couple of seasons. Shown some good flashes so far this season, especially the goal against Sutton, but it's make or break for him now I think. |
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Post by bing on Aug 31, 2017 13:56:00 GMT
We struggled last season without Hannah. Instead we had to watch Richards act like a petulant child whilst Alabi carried him. I also think that we struggled on Saturday because of the absence of Akintunde. His pace would have beaten that Lowe all ends up. One of the worst defenders I have seen play against Chester but we hardly lay a glove on him. Mahon on his day takes some beating but has been too inconsistent in the past 18 months. However, play him on the right and you will see the best right winger in the league. Agree about Astles. If Lowe, with his 200 plus football league games, is one of the worst defenders you've seen playing Chester then you must've had some bloody decent sides turning up! I could name a truckload worse who I've seen at Macc (you've signed two of them!). He's not the quickest on the turn, I'll give you that. Whatever has happened with Mahon btw? I've seen him a couple of times before and been impressed but he doesn't seem to have really 'kicked on'. Halls was your captain, so I suspect he's not as bad as you make out! Mahon suffered from injury last season. On his day he's an excellent outlet and can dribble past players for fun. Probably more important than that for us at the moment, he can hold the ball up and keep possession, something we've been struggling with of late. |
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Post by Lobster on Aug 31, 2017 15:01:24 GMT
If Lowe, with his 200 plus football league games, is one of the worst defenders you've seen playing Chester then you must've had some bloody decent sides turning up! I could name a truckload worse who I've seen at Macc (you've signed two of them!). He's not the quickest on the turn, I'll give you that. Whatever has happened with Mahon btw? I've seen him a couple of times before and been impressed but he doesn't seem to have really 'kicked on'. , so I suspect he's not as bad as you make out! Mahon suffered from injury last season. On his day he's an excellent outlet and can dribble past players for fun. Probably more important than that for us at the moment, he can hold the ball up and keep possession, something we've been struggling with of late. Luke George was our captain, so not sure that argument really works. |
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Post by eyeswideopen on Aug 31, 2017 15:46:36 GMT
Halls was your captain, so I suspect he's not as bad as you make out! Mahon suffered from injury last season. On his day he's an excellent outlet and can dribble past players for fun. Probably more important than that for us at the moment, he can hold the ball up and keep possession, something we've been struggling with of late. Luke George was our captain, so not sure that argument really works. He was replying to a Macc fan Lobster.
Edit, I got your point after re-reading it, and yes you are right about LG.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 16:00:53 GMT
Manager and players been off all week. Back in training tomorrow.
Winning mentality?
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Post by massivefloodlights on Aug 31, 2017 16:17:44 GMT
Manager and players been off all week. Back in training tomorrow. Winning mentality? Part time mentality. It reeks. |
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Post by bing on Aug 31, 2017 17:00:01 GMT
Halls was your captain, so I suspect he's not as bad as you make out! Mahon suffered from injury last season. On his day he's an excellent outlet and can dribble past players for fun. Probably more important than that for us at the moment, he can hold the ball up and keep possession, something we've been struggling with of late. Luke George was our captain, so not sure that argument really works. Good point, well argued!! |
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Post by Rio Doherty on Aug 31, 2017 18:58:14 GMT
Manager and players been off all week. Back in training tomorrow. Winning mentality? I thought we trained today and travelled down to Torquay tomorrow. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 19:06:40 GMT
Not from what I was told but maybe so.
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Post by MPW on Aug 31, 2017 19:19:51 GMT
Manager and players been off all week. Back in training tomorrow. Winning mentality? Bloody hell, no wonder some of the players look so unfit! I thought we were meant to be a professionally run outfit? After that performance on Monday, they should have all been in early Tuesday morning! |
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Post by noddy on Aug 31, 2017 20:38:30 GMT
Or certainly Wednesday morning. Would be very surprised personally if the players had 3 days off after Monday's "performance". Assume the players are travelling down Friday for the Torquay game so they must have been in either Wednesday/Thursday. And if not why the hell not.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 31, 2017 20:44:39 GMT
Probably because no matter what they do on the training ground or out on the pitch, this manager thinks they're all "fantastic".
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Post by southernblue on Aug 31, 2017 22:02:53 GMT
If Lowe, with his 200 plus football league games, is one of the worst defenders you've seen playing Chester then you must've had some bloody decent sides turning up! I could name a truckload worse who I've seen at Macc (you've signed two of them!). He's not the quickest on the turn, I'll give you that. Whatever has happened with Mahon btw? I've seen him a couple of times before and been impressed but he doesn't seem to have really 'kicked on'. Halls was your captain, so I suspect he's not as bad as you make out! Mahon suffered from injury last season. On his day he's an excellent outlet and can dribble past players for fun. Probably more important than that for us at the moment, he can hold the ball up and keep possession, something we've been struggling with of late. Mahon was my MOM at Aldershot, worked tirelessly, won us the pen and caused them all sorts of problems down their right side second half. |
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Post by arthurmorris on Sept 1, 2017 10:17:16 GMT
Perhaps this thread should have been titled "A Whining Mentality".
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Post by noddy on Sept 1, 2017 13:25:27 GMT
Perhaps this thread should have been titled "A Whining Mentality". You must be easily pleased Arthur. |
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