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Post by Forever Blue on Aug 31, 2017 23:32:04 GMT
Whilst I was p1ssed off over the interview That MM did (Straight talking interview ) the fact remains he has done some great work behind the scenes with sponsors ect. He has kept his part of the bargain and what happens on the pitch is down to JM and I don't care what the players say either the buck stops with JM. As far as I am concerned MM is doing his job and should stay and the delay in sacking JM was a big mistake by giving JM a two year contract and that needs to change asap.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 6:00:01 GMT
Maguire was the one who gave the idiot an extended contract and should walk the plank with McCarthy. Both incompetent. Nope. It was the operations board of the time, and will have been ratified by the full CFU board of the time. I cant recall who was on either but some remain. I dont think that MM even gets a vote in either to be honest. Maybe Alan could provide a bit more info? We are getting more and better commercial sponsorship through MM than previous incumbents and they are better served. Commercially where we are struggling seems to be smaller stuff, match sponsorships and I believe the Lounge is very, very quiet this year. I guess he needs some help in this area.
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Post by Al on Sept 1, 2017 7:01:56 GMT
If MM brings in more money than he takes out (his wage) then he's been a reasonable success.
If he's increased our off the field income from previous seasons then he's been a success.
His performance can only truly be measured by us CFU members when the club's accounts are released
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Post by Dodge on Sept 1, 2017 12:34:25 GMT
MM has already proven at the CFU meeting in March/April that he earned the club far more than he took out last season. You only have to look at the Sam Hughes deal, without him we would have accepted Β£80k in January and lost out on Β£45k, which is basically his wage covered.
I can't imagine a situation where the board wouldn't have asked for Mark's advice when it came to the contract extension, but the Ops Board will have made the formal recommendation and the CFU board will have agreed the final decision. The buck doesn't stop with MM, in fact it doesn't come close to him. And even if it did, it's hardly a sackable offence, as at the time it seemed a good move and was welcomed by fans. It probably also aided his recent commercial success, as he could sell the club as stable with a long-term vision bla bla bla.
Even if you ignored all of that and lay the blame at Maguire's door, I would imagine the cost of sacking McCarthy still won't surpass the income Mark has generated during his tenure. So to suggest he should be sacked is bizarre.
I don't think the whoppers are goats, they're just genuinely a bunch of whoppers. I'm pretty sure one of them stands on the right side of the Harry Mac, going mad at McCarthy every time he claps. Dead weird behaviour.
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Post by Al on Sept 1, 2017 13:24:04 GMT
I don't think he should be sacked no.
I would rather look at the clubs accounts when they are released and base his performance on comparing the income from his initiatives and work off the field with corporate sponsorships, matchdays sponsorships etc based on income in those areas from years previous.
Mark's success should only be judged on the money he brings in, not based on any corporate jargon and buzzwords.
The truth will be in the club accounts
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Post by bonecrusher on Sept 1, 2017 14:14:12 GMT
He is another incompetent individual. He destroyed Stockport County and is now doing the same at Chester. He needs to go pronto along with the useless McCarthy. He is the fool that recruits these turkeys. Attention seeking!!! Notice me! Notice me! I am relevant!!!
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Post by jollyboysam on Sept 1, 2017 14:36:14 GMT
Well said bc,it's idiots like this that devalue the credibility of this forum as a voice for the ordinary fan!
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Post by peterkaysock on Sept 1, 2017 15:01:11 GMT
I think we are pointing the finger in every direction now, the next couple of games will be the tide turner. I think we all know that and i think the everyone at the club knows that aswell. Will be looking to sack the Tea lady next.
Whopper 3 not the right answer, we need stability off the field aswell as on the field.
Bit daft that post
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 1, 2017 17:40:11 GMT
bonecrusher
you can't stand opinions that differ from yours can you ?
Its a free country. Maguire has blood on his hands over McCarthys extended contract whether you like it or not bozzo.
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Post by onetrevorstorton on Sept 1, 2017 18:17:36 GMT
Its a NO from me , think hes one of the positive things happening concerning sponsorship revenue and the handling of Sams transfer in contrast to Ben Hennigan ,
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 19:01:28 GMT
you leave my mate maguire alone he's the best and you will see that at 5pm tomorrow
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 1, 2017 19:19:22 GMT
Would never associate Tarvin Blue with "good constructive balanced comments". See he's 'liked' Whopper3's wind-up He makes well detailed arguments to be fair to him. Sadly I don't think it's a wind-up. Tarvin Blue is a passionate fan like myself. Whopper on the other hand .... the clue is in the name.
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Post by bonecrusher on Sept 1, 2017 21:03:25 GMT
bonecrusher you can't stand opinions that differ from yours can you ? Its a free country. Maguire has blood on his hands over McCarthys extended contract whether you like it or not bozzo. Blood on his hands??? FFS get a grip.
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 1, 2017 21:11:25 GMT
MM has already proven at the CFU meeting in March/April that he earned the club far more than he took out last season. You only have to look at the Sam Hughes deal, without him we would have accepted Β£80k in January and lost out on Β£45k, which is basically his wage covered. I can't imagine a situation where the board wouldn't have asked for Mark's advice when it came to the contract extension, but the Ops Board will have made the formal recommendation and the CFU board will have agreed the final decision. The buck doesn't stop with MM, in fact it doesn't come close to him. And even if it did, it's hardly a sackable offence, as at the time it seemed a good move and was welcomed by fans. It probably also aided his recent commercial success, as he could sell the club as stable with a long-term vision bla bla bla. Even if you ignored all of that and lay the blame at Maguire's door, I would imagine the cost of sacking McCarthy still won't surpass the income Mark has generated during his tenure. So to suggest he should be sacked is bizarre. I don't think the whoppers are goats, they're just genuinely a bunch of whoppers. I'm pretty sure one of them stands on the right side of the Harry Mac, going mad at McCarthy every time he claps. Dead weird behaviour. I think I know who you mean, near the middle?
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Post by MPW on Sept 1, 2017 22:33:07 GMT
I think MM has proved his worth in recent months and cannot be singled out for the poor form. Even if he did recommended that the club extend Macca's contract it would have to have been agreed by the board as NWAS said.
After losing Sharps, I don't remember many complaining that we had extended Macca's contract?
I would be careful what you wish for.
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Post by Zvonimir Boban on Sept 1, 2017 22:46:57 GMT
Whopper3 are you saying Everything Must Go? I need an explanation as to why everything must go. I take it you can't forgive McCarthy and Maguire and everything must go? Someone likes the Manic Street Preachers....ππ
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Post by soulseal on Sept 1, 2017 23:11:04 GMT
bonecrusher you can't stand opinions that differ from yours can you ? Its a free country. Maguire has blood on his hands over McCarthys extended contract whether you like it or not bozzo. Blood on his hands? For christ sake he's a football club CEO, he's not a terrorist. You do post some drivel. Most of us can't stand opinions that are frankly stupid. But you're right that you have the freedom to be an imbecile.
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 2, 2017 10:50:09 GMT
Most fans I talk to think Maguire and McCarthy should go now.
Both incompetent.
My opinions are what I believe and people who don't like my opinions just post abuse about me. Laughable really.
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Post by whopper1 on Sept 2, 2017 11:06:15 GMT
MM has already proven at the CFU meeting in March/April that he earned the club far more than he took out last season. You only have to look at the Sam Hughes deal, without him we would have accepted Β£80k in January and lost out on Β£45k, which is basically his wage covered. I can't imagine a situation where the board wouldn't have asked for Mark's advice when it came to the contract extension, but the Ops Board will have made the formal recommendation and the CFU board will have agreed the final decision. The buck doesn't stop with MM, in fact it doesn't come close to him. And even if it did, it's hardly a sackable offence, as at the time it seemed a good move and was welcomed by fans. It probably also aided his recent commercial success, as he could sell the club as stable with a long-term vision bla bla bla. Even if you ignored all of that and lay the blame at Maguire's door, I would imagine the cost of sacking McCarthy still won't surpass the income Mark has generated during his tenure. So to suggest he should be sacked is bizarre. I don't think the whoppers are goats, they're just genuinely a bunch of whoppers. I'm pretty sure one of them stands on the right side of the Harry Mac, going mad at McCarthy every time he claps. Dead weird behaviour. not stood on Harry macc for few years and not been this season, besides two thirds of the whopper clang are sat in malta watching another shower with a useless manager,but at least england win now and again, must go my nice cold cisk is getting warm ππΊπ»π
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Post by bonecrusher on Sept 2, 2017 13:40:38 GMT
Most fans I talk to think Maguire and McCarthy should go now. Both incompetent. My opinions are what I believe and people who don't like my opinions just post abuse about me. Laughable really. Whopper, I have no problem with people who have differing opinions to me, it's just the manner of your posting that I was commenting on. You are perfectly entitled to your opinion of course and in fairness you don't hand out abuse or so but the nature of your posts does suggest you are enjoying being a bit of a WUM and naturally that sort of thing is annoying on a forum. I don't see a great deal of abuse for you -just alot of people questioning your opinion. That's what forums are for. Your problem is that you just make wild statements and don't back it up with any constructive argument. Just repeating "McCarthy is incompetent" is actually quite boring to be honest and suggests that you are either a total attention seeker unable to construct a decent post worth reading, desperate for attention (and to be fair I'm feeding this need at the moment) or just a silly kid who needs to grow up. Rio is a young lad but you could learn something from seeing how he puts a post together. Some of what you also claim appears to be inaccurate as well. For example it was pointed out to you that it wasn't Maguire that gave Macca the two year contract - but you chose not to respond to that. Have you not noticed that we have loads more sponsorship deals this season and there does appear to be a much better 'off the field' direction of the club. This has come from Maguire in my opinion. But no, results are poor so he is incompetent and must go. Who would we get in? Can we afford to sack him as well with the associated payout? I would agree that McCarthy isn't making a great case for competence at the moment and his position should be under discussion, as it is. I'm done engaging with you now anyway as I don't think there is much point, and quire frankly have no more time for your posts until you start making some valid points along with reasons. On a different note, however I gather from one of your other posts that you have travelled to Torquay today and for that I must give you some respect. Let's hope for a Chester win.
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 2, 2017 16:38:04 GMT
bonecrusher
The manner of your postings makes me vomit.
You are upset coz you don't like my opinions.
u think my posts are boring don't read them. Its that simple even for you .
Maguire signed off the mccarthy extended contract. He is incompetent. He killed Stockport County and is doing the same at Chester.
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 2, 2017 16:44:16 GMT
"not stood on Harry macc for few years and not been this season, besides two thirds of the whopper clang are sat in malta watching another shower with a useless manager,but at least england win now and again, must go my nice cold cisk is getting warm π"
Utter bollox.
You were seen sat in Corbetts you bullshitter this afternoon by big Jimbo. He has just told me on the phone.
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Post by bonecrusher on Sept 2, 2017 17:56:44 GMT
I would like to apologise to everybody for my fascist posting and views.
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Post by whopper1 on Sept 3, 2017 9:39:10 GMT
"not stood on Harry macc for few years and not been this season, besides two thirds of the whopper clang are sat in malta watching another shower with a useless manager,but at least england win now and again, must go my nice cold cisk is getting warm π" Utter bollox. You were seen sat in Corbetts you bullshitter this afternoon by big Jimbo. He has just told me on the phone. take no notice of this wum,get back to dead passion u weapon
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Post by southernblue on Sept 3, 2017 21:53:34 GMT
"not stood on Harry macc for few years and not been this season, besides two thirds of the whopper clang are sat in malta watching another shower with a useless manager,but at least england win now and again, must go my nice cold cisk is getting warm π" Utter bollox. You were seen sat in Corbetts you bullshitter this afternoon by big Jimbo. He has just told me on the phone. take no notice of this wum,get back to dead passion u weapon Whilst Whopper1 and Whopper3 are at each other's throats, I can't help wonder if there is a Whopper2. Did they bump him off?
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