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Post by luckyblue on Sept 1, 2017 6:23:00 GMT
Why do we do anything in life ?
It's because we believe in something, or we get pleasure and enjoyment from it.
Right now, I don't believe, nor do I get any enjoyment from watching our home games. (Maybe gallows humour or some comedic value).
I'm not boycotting, I've just lost interest. My season ticket is paid for, my seals lottery direct debit will remain in place.... so CFC are not missing out on my financial support. The simple fact is the football situation is dire and I think ive lost the Love.
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Post by kyle on Sept 1, 2017 6:27:38 GMT
Completely agree. Going to the deva has become a chore. After every game in 2017 I thought why do I bother
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Post by billyw on Sept 1, 2017 7:06:24 GMT
Why do we do anything in life ? It's because we believe in something, or we get pleasure and enjoyment from it. Right now, I don't believe, nor do I get any enjoyment from watching our home games. (Maybe gallows humour or some comedic value). I'm not boycotting, I've just lost interest. My season ticket is paid for, my seals lottery direct debit will remain in place.... so CFC are not missing out on my financial support. The simple fact is the football situation is dire and I think ive lost the Love. My sentiments exactly. If Season ticket holders, having paid for the season, lose interest in going to the games, what hope is there for attracting new or less committed fans. The club as we know it, will die if McCarthy continues as manager.
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Post by tarvinblue on Sept 1, 2017 7:06:39 GMT
Why do we do anything in life ? It's because we believe in something, or we get pleasure and enjoyment from it. Right now, I don't believe, nor do I get any enjoyment from watching our home games. (Maybe gallows humour or some comedic value). I'm not boycotting, I've just lost interest. My season ticket is paid for, my seals lottery direct debit will remain in place.... so CFC are not missing out on my financial support. The simple fact is the football situation is dire and I think ive lost the Love. Excellent post. I am in exactly the same situation. I'm just relieved there are only 2 home games this month!
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Post by boughtonblue on Sept 1, 2017 8:10:56 GMT
Good post, I am in the same position. I don't enjoy my trips down the deva at all now. After 45 year of watching them all I want is to see a bit of football played not the leaden legged hoofball that is being coached into our players
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 1, 2017 8:19:19 GMT
Maybe go to away games then? 😉
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Post by bonecrusher on Sept 1, 2017 8:20:29 GMT
Why do we do anything in life ? It's because we believe in something, or we get pleasure and enjoyment from it. Right now, I don't believe, nor do I get any enjoyment from watching our home games. (Maybe gallows humour or some comedic value). I'm not boycotting, I've just lost interest. My season ticket is paid for, my seals lottery direct debit will remain in place.... so CFC are not missing out on my financial support. The simple fact is the football situation is dire and I think ive lost the Love. I don't really get this although I respect your personal opinion. Don't you want to be there when we finally win (and we will eventually!)? Don't you remember what it was like when Heneghan scored that winner against Wrexham, or Richards put us 3-1 up at home? We go for those moments and sometimes have to put up with lots of crap. It's called supporting a football team through thick and thin.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 8:22:32 GMT
My daughter started coming with me last season and has been 3 times this season.
She's 6 and loves going, results are irrelevant to her, she just enjoys the whole ritual of wearing a shirt, buying a programme, having 'the world's greatest hotdog', shouting at the top of her voice, cheering on her favourite players and as my partner said 'she enjoys spending time with her Dad'. So yeah, I still have the love for the game and it's worth every penny, as frustrating as performances/results are most of the time.
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Post by peterkaysock on Sept 1, 2017 8:28:07 GMT
Got to agree with this post, been through thick and thin with club for 38 years of following them.
Excited pre-season, but if i'm honest i noticed we were sitting to deep then, so there is noway its the players its what they are being told to do.
I can't get excited as we are watching such poor football.
Never felt so deflated so quick
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Post by Lobster on Sept 1, 2017 8:30:20 GMT
I think this is a real concern. The home performances have been so poor for so long, that even serious fans are really struggling to motivate themselves to give up the best part of twenty quid and a Saturday afternoon.
I always think the word "entertainment" sounds a bit naff and Americanised when talking about football, especially at this level. It's not something like the cinema or theatre where we should be slouching back with popcorn and fizzy drinks, but we do need something that stirs feelings of passion, excitement and belonging. Just three points from the last possible 42 at home is enough to test the patience of a saint.
I'm a "pick and choose" games fan rather than an every-gamer, and I like to think it's my availability and finances that dictate whether or not I attend games rather than how well we're doing. What I would say though is that I'd be slightly embarrassed to bring a friend to the Deva at the moment. When we're so reliant on what we take in through the turnstiles, we've got to be offering a bit more than this. It might not matter so much at the likes of Forest Green, Fylde and Ebbsfleet where when they're spending has little to do with their gate receipts, but at Chester it's very harmful to our progress if actually attending home games is in any way unpleasant.
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Post by tarvinblue on Sept 1, 2017 8:30:49 GMT
Reading this post, there's a significant divide between those who have supported the club for many years and those who have supported the club in the last 10. Perhaps that is a reflection of a jadedness after so much disappointment over the last 25 years? If your experience was the Neil Young glory days and you have only recently suffered the bad times under Steve Burr and Jon McCarthy, you probably are a little more resilient to it all.
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Post by sqzl on Sept 1, 2017 8:54:20 GMT
Been going since i was 4 or 5 years old, and 20 years on i still enjoy the thought of the match, but not the experience itself. Granted, i do have to drive a 4 hours round trip to attend, so it's already an arse, it's just a crap matchday experience. I'm actually looking forward to Solihull as it's not as far as we may actually get a result! It's frustrating to think, that myself and other fans would rather put money into Solihull's coffers in a bid to see some entertainment and a performance worthy of us fans attendance.
I can't imagine non ST holders views, they must genuinely have to force themselves down to the Deva, unless they want to go for some peace and quiet as that's what they'll get after we have to endure 5-10 minutes of sheer dross at the start of games.
We need some excitement around the place again, and i'm sorry, but JM is the main reason that excitement has been drained. Nobody doubts his intentions, nor his work ethic and personality, but he isn't a football manager.
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Post by luckyblue on Sept 1, 2017 9:01:45 GMT
Why do we do anything in life ? It's because we believe in something, or we get pleasure and enjoyment from it. Right now, I don't believe, nor do I get any enjoyment from watching our home games. (Maybe gallows humour or some comedic value). I'm not boycotting, I've just lost interest. My season ticket is paid for, my seals lottery direct debit will remain in place.... so CFC are not missing out on my financial support. The simple fact is the football situation is dire and I think ive lost the Love. I don't really get this although I respect your personal opinion. Don't you want to be there when we finally win (and we will eventually!)? Don't you remember what it was like when Heneghan scored that winner against Wrexham, or Richards put us 3-1 up at home? We go for those moments and sometimes have to put up with lots of crap. It's called supporting a football team through thick and thin. I used a similar comment about attending just in case you miss something significant on the pitch....in a previous thread.....but after 40 + years of regular attendance, I can't remember being so disinterested....Â
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Post by Lobster on Sept 1, 2017 9:48:53 GMT
I don't really get this although I respect your personal opinion. Don't you want to be there when we finally win (and we will eventually!)? Don't you remember what it was like when Heneghan scored that winner against Wrexham, or Richards put us 3-1 up at home? We go for those moments and sometimes have to put up with lots of crap. It's called supporting a football team through thick and thin. I used a similar comment about attending just in case you miss something significant on the pitch....in a previous thread.....but after 40 + years of regular attendance, I can't remember being so disinterested.... That's a word that's cropped up a lot in the last couple of seasons - disinterest and apathy, and they're dangerous feelings. When we had Vaughan, Gutterman, Smith etc, there was anger, frustration, injustice. At the moment, we're not a club in crisis like we were then, but things are a bit rubbish and it feels like there isn't much we can do about it. I find it hard to even get angry with anyone or point the finger at anyone, because I do really think that everyone, manager included, is doing their best and has good intentions.
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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 1, 2017 10:34:50 GMT
That's a word that's cropped up a lot in the last couple of seasons - disinterest and apathy, and they're dangerous feelings. When we had Vaughan, Gutterman, Smith etc, there was anger, frustration, injustice. At the moment, we're not a club in crisis like we were then, but things are a bit rubbish and it feels like there isn't much we can do about it. I find it hard to even get angry with anyone or point the finger at anyone, because I do really think that everyone, manager included, is doing their best and has good intentions. Angry? No! Frustrated? Yes! Disenchantment? Probably. You are correct, they are dangerous feelings. As an earlier poster said, how can you bring someone down to watch this? You'd never get them back. I feel sorry for dcmcnally. He makes a real effort to get people down and create an atmosphere. He succeeded. They were excellent behind the goal on Monday. First time in ages there has been any feeling of being at a real game. The home games don't feel like being at a competitive match any more. The away games do. Go to watch almost any other team, and it feels like a proper match. The feel good factor isn't there. It's not just the awful results, it goes deeper than that. Let's hope dcmcnally and his mates are still there when things change for the better. Let's hope the older ones still keep coming because once they stop, they are unlikely to come back each week.
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Post by Si on Sept 1, 2017 12:00:55 GMT
Depends how your outlook.....I turn up knowing that its likely to be a drab/frustrating match but at the least its a chance to catch up with my old man, get a bit of a break from home life, some fresh air.....and even though I know its likely to be awful I don't think I'll ever lose that slight bit of hope that this could be the game where we win. I missed the Macclesfield match and was gutted that I couldn't make it as I thought it would be typical that we'd go and win with me not being there, but afterwards I was quite happy I couldn't make it!
But I am someone who has watched Chester all my life and its in my blood. As others have mentioned, you'd be embarrased to ask a friend to come and pay £18 to watch this football at the moment, and that's something else Mark McGuire will have to consider when deciding to persist with this manager. We won't attract any new fans playing like we are, apart from perhaps kids who are more bothered about haribo and hotdogs rather than LRT blowing out of his arse after 20 mins.
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Post by iandychesterfc on Sept 1, 2017 12:16:31 GMT
I do find the opposition somewhat underwhelming, not because they're going to beat us but i miss proper matches with crowds. Boring Wood, Bromley, Ebbsfleet, Eastleigh - i just can't get motivated by these fixtures.
Its only going to get worse as well, more southern teams bankrolled into the league leaving only a handful of fixtures worth watching.
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Post by southernblue on Sept 1, 2017 16:10:26 GMT
I do find the opposition somewhat underwhelming, not because they're going to beat us but i miss proper matches with crowds. Boring Wood, Bromley, Ebbsfleet, Eastleigh - i just can't get motivated by these fixtures. Its only going to get worse as well, more southern teams bankrolled into the league leaving only a handful of fixtures worth watching. Agree on Boring Wood and Eastleigh, but Ebbsfleet and Bromley seem to have more of a proper fan base and can be vocal.
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Post by Johnnybling on Sept 1, 2017 16:47:03 GMT
Completely agree. Going to the deva has become a chore. After every game in 2017 I thought why do I bother God I hope Maguire reads this sums up everything that is wrong with our club, perfectly put.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 19:08:09 GMT
no need to boycott i'll get you all a win tomorrow 6-4-0 formation sit back so deep then i'll get them to catch on the break gooooooooooooooooal we score then we all go back to happy clapping
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Post by Paul Da Part on Sept 1, 2017 19:54:32 GMT
I'm in the same sitiation. Although I think my love for the game as a whole is diminishing. Silly money at the top of the game, an international team (at senior level, at least) which is quite frankly awful though watch & now closer to home, my own club doesn't feel like my club anymore. In the early days it was great. Winning matches and titles obviously helped, but the club genuinely felt like ours, like it was everyone pulling in the same direction. Now we've got a mouthpiece in Maguire who divides the fan base and seems to be almost running the show. Things are being taken out of the fans hands at times and you now have a divide in the fan base over recent activity. We've got an awful manager who's teams cannot give us any form of enjoyment nor entertainment. We want to do our bit by going to games and paying our money knowing it's going in the right place but it's getting. Harder and harder to muster up any encouragement to go. Trust me, I want what's best for Chester FC, but at the minute I just can't find any enthusiasm for it all. Sad.
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Post by EddieBishopsquiff on Sept 1, 2017 20:25:50 GMT
I do find the opposition somewhat underwhelming, not because they're going to beat us but i miss proper matches with crowds. Boring Wood, Bromley, Ebbsfleet, Eastleigh - i just can't get motivated by these fixtures. Its only going to get worse as well, more southern teams bankrolled into the league leaving only a handful of fixtures worth watching. Have to agree with this, unfortunately football has changed so much with all the money around these days, for those of us who are a little older shall we say, it was Fulham, West Brom, Bolton, Wolves and the likes who we could hold our own against, now we have to put up with despicable clubs like Eastleigh and Boring Wood turning up and waltzing away with 3 easy points. I'll still be going along to support my team but it's more out of habit than anything else these days I'm afraid.
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Post by bonecrusher on Sept 1, 2017 21:04:50 GMT
no need to boycott i'll get you all a win tomorrow 6-4-0 formation sit back so deep then i'll get them to catch on the break gooooooooooooooooal we score then we all go back to happy clapping Have you registered with that name just to post like a twat?
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Post by soulseal on Sept 1, 2017 21:15:31 GMT
I don't get to see the Blues as often as I would like, living in Nottingham, so when I do get it's just fun to be watching them. I have since times just as bad over the years and have also had times when watching the team hasn't been as important as other stuff in my life.
I know I will continue to support Chester and see them when I can with my young lad who,proudly wears his Chester kit at football training amongst all the local Forest, County and Derby fans.
I'm not deflated to the point I've lost interest, quite he opposite, I'm reading everything and wishing I was at the game. We will soon and urn this around and some like Rio will be able to say they were there. It may need a new manager to achieve this though.
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 1, 2017 21:17:42 GMT
That's a word that's cropped up a lot in the last couple of seasons - disinterest and apathy, and they're dangerous feelings. When we had Vaughan, Gutterman, Smith etc, there was anger, frustration, injustice. At the moment, we're not a club in crisis like we were then, but things are a bit rubbish and it feels like there isn't much we can do about it. I find it hard to even get angry with anyone or point the finger at anyone, because I do really think that everyone, manager included, is doing their best and has good intentions. Angry? No! Frustrated? Yes! Disenchantment? Probably. You are correct, they are dangerous feelings. As an earlier poster said, how can you bring someone down to watch this? You'd never get them back. I feel sorry for dcmcnally. He makes a real effort to get people down and create an atmosphere. He succeeded. They were excellent behind the goal on Monday. First time in ages there has been any feeling of being at a real game. The home games don't feel like being at a competitive match any more. The away games do. Go to watch almost any other team, and it feels like a proper match. The feel good factor isn't there. It's not just the awful results, it goes deeper than that. Let's hope dcmcnally and his mates are still there when things change for the better. Let's hope the older ones still keep coming because once they stop, they are unlikely to come back each week. Thanks Harry. Missed my first home game for a year on Monday but heard good things about the atmosphere
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Post by MPW on Sept 1, 2017 22:14:17 GMT
I can empathise with many that are becoming disinterested, this run of home form together with the football being played would test any fans patience.
I too take my young lad and his mates to home games and to be honest the result doesn't really bother them, they just like the experience strangely enough. However, after witnessing 13 of the 14 winless home matches I have also begun to ask myself why I bother.
The reason I keep coming back is because it's in the blood, it's also in my sons blood, fathers blood, brothers blood and grandads blood. It's why we stay loyal to our club through thick and thin.
Although it doesn't feel like it at the moment, the fact of the matter is that we WILL win at home again at some point, but I wouldn't want that to be the game that I decide to miss. It would also make attending all of those winless games seem such a waste of time.
Sometimes we need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture, the fans will still be there long after the manager and players come and go. We don't have a millionaire owner, but we have an array of enthusiastic volunteers that are working wonders behind the scene with the youth and community.
Whether we keep the manager is down to the board, but the fans must keep the hope and faith with our club.
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Post by noddy on Sept 2, 2017 1:03:34 GMT
I don't get to see the Blues as often as I would like, living in Nottingham, so when I do get it's just fun to be watching them. I have since times just as bad over the years and have also had times when watching the team hasn't been as important as other stuff in my life. I know I will continue to support Chester and see them when I can with my young lad who,proudly wears his Chester kit at football training amongst all the local Forest, County and Derby fans. I'm not deflated to the point I've lost interest, quite he opposite, I'm reading everything and wishing I was at the game. We will soon and urn this around and some like Rio will be able to say they were there. It may need a new manager to achieve this though. No disrespect soulseal but being an exile you haven't been there week in week out watching us "perform" at home over the last 9 months though being fair if you have watched them away over that period you have seen better performances than I have. It's great that your passionate about the club and your lad wears the shirt is fantastic but the crux off the matter is your not watching what we are witnessing at home over that period of time. It's not a case of maybe needing a new manager it's blindingly obvious results wise McCarthy isn't up to the job. I know you were a McCarthy supporter in terms of him keeping his job but credibility wise as in your statement you really weren't in a position to judge, certainly in regards to the negative, tactically inept style of football I and others have witnessed. Oh for the day I look forward to going the match, when it doesn't feel like a chore as it does at the moment. Here speaks a supporter of 35 years, pays on the gate and only misses a game if on his holidays. If I feel this way i won't be alone and as a supporter owned club that has to be a major concern.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Sept 2, 2017 1:16:02 GMT
It's shit but it's our shit and I wouldn't change it. My walk from work to the game on the evening of Tuesday March 8th 2016 felt as long and as depressing as ever but two hours later it felt like I'd flown home. It's nights like that that are getting me through the last nine months at the moment, though Christ only knows when we'll see something like that again.
Now I've got my three year old lad hooked, as a poster mentioned above, on the routines and the rituals of going to the match. He's only ever seen us win once (the last time any of us saw us win a home game) but his enthusiasm remains. He even wished for James Alabi to return twice when he threw two pennies into a wishing well the other day - completely unprompted. Haven't got the heart to tell him he'll be depressed watching Chester in 15 years. That's something he'll have to find out for himself. We'll still be partaking in the ritual though.
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Post by billyw on Sept 2, 2017 6:39:09 GMT
Been going since i was 4 or 5 years old, and 20 years on i still enjoy the thought of the match, but not the experience itself. Granted, i do have to drive a 4 hours round trip to attend, so it's already an arse, it's just a crap matchday experience. I'm actually looking forward to Solihull as it's not as far as we may actually get a result! It's frustrating to think, that myself and other fans would rather put money into Solihull's coffers in a bid to see some entertainment and a performance worthy of us fans attendance. I can't imagine non ST holders views, they must genuinely have to force themselves down to the Deva, unless they want to go for some peace and quiet as that's what they'll get after we have to endure 5-10 minutes of sheer dross at the start of games. We need some excitement around the place again, and i'm sorry, but JM is the main reason that excitement has been drained. Nobody doubts his intentions, nor his work ethic and personality, but he isn't a football manager. I've been a supporter since the 1950s but I bow down to you and others who travel hours to support your team, particularly with the rubbish being served up by McCarthy.
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 2, 2017 7:26:48 GMT
Unfortunately we're being hit with a double whammy: it's absolutely shit and infuriating to watch, which would just about be tolerable if we were getting the odd win, but that happened longer ago than Serena conceived.
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