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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 22:04:11 GMT
So the board who got us into the financial mess are still causing mayhem? It looks like it Olorenshaw has come in with his ideas and the “majority” have said no probably because he was sensible given his background? And not drive the Club into the ground like they’re trying to do. It needs wiping out from top to bottom! I have no idea how this will work though, What a mare!
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Post by Jack on Apr 2, 2018 22:04:41 GMT
My guess is this has been an internal fight between those believing external investment is the way to move forward and those fiercely defending the fans owned model. That's certainly how it's coming across. Can only presume this is all heavily-linked to this Legard stuff that was hinted at a few months ago. But which board members are the ones that are pushing investment? We really ought to be informed of these agendas.
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Post by southernblue on Apr 2, 2018 22:07:15 GMT
All a terrible mess and very sad. It's as bad as religion. Surely we should focus on the fact that we have more in common than what divides us. We all want a sustainable club which wins a reasonable amount of football matches. Now is the time to pull together more than ever.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Apr 2, 2018 22:08:09 GMT
Who agreed to have these people who don't favour fan ownership on the board in the first place?
Or are they the board members who were not weeded out when the 4 rejoined?
And why does it take Mark and Simon to leave, why couldn't they come out and tell everyone the truth?
Too much game playing going on here. Something stinks
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Post by Imperial on Apr 2, 2018 22:11:14 GMT
Fucks sake. I’ve just had Chester FC coasters made as well.
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Post by Lobster on Apr 2, 2018 22:11:53 GMT
Dreadful. Absolutely dreadful. How on earth do we sort this out?
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Apr 2, 2018 22:12:21 GMT
My guess is this has been an internal fight between those believing external investment is the way to move forward and those fiercely defending the fans owned model. A decision on that is not up to any of them individually, it'd be up to all CFU members to decide upon seeing as we are supposedly a fan owned club. Directors are there to take the club in the direction the majority of members want and nothing else. They are our representatives. It's not for them to squabble over behind closed doors. The trend is to become a director at CFC and forget about everyone else. It feels like we are fan owned in name alone. The fact all this serious stuff is going on in so much secrecy only proves that. If we are to remain fan owned, we must be truly that. This current attempt is garbage.
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Post by embalmer on Apr 2, 2018 22:13:27 GMT
Agree that this secrecy has to end - the future of our football club is on the line here. For a board member to resign from the club they love usually takes something pretty serious. However, in my opinion, its not really okay to resign and then come out with cryptic nonsense as reasoning behind it. We don't have time for that.
We're the owners of this football club and we deserve to know what is causing board members to resign.
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Post by cfc-blue on Apr 2, 2018 22:14:49 GMT
Who agreed to have these people who don't favour fan ownership on the board in the first place? Or are they the board members who were not weeded out when the 4 rejoined? And why does it take Mark and Simon to leave, why couldn't they come out and tell everyone the truth? Too much game playing going on here. Something stinks I appreciate the fans can’t be kept up to date on every board decision, but it’s becoming ridiculous again. I believed that after our financial situation came to light, it was going to feel like a fresh start and have the board and fans reconnect again, which it did for the first couple of weeks, but now it just feels like us and them again with all this secrecy, behind-scenes bickering and dwindling fan base being kept in the dark. It’s no wonder some are losing faith in the fan ownership model, it’s whats put us in this mess and the wider fan base are being kept away from the truths that we need to know about to sort it all out.
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Post by Matt on Apr 2, 2018 22:15:38 GMT
If it is a case of investment which has been disagreed the board members can’t just go ahead with that, it would have to go to a vote for ALL CFU members to decide. I think they’re forgetting that slight detail.
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Post by spoonsie on Apr 2, 2018 22:15:59 GMT
'But Olorenshaw, who works in senior management for Merseyrail, has decided to step away with immediate effect after stating that his views differ from the majority of the current board.' - Chronicle. I feel very much in the dark with regards to all of this. Who are the members of the board that SO has differing views to? Who are the 'certain people who wanted this' that I am constantly reading about on twitter? We need an end to this thinly-veiled secrecy. What is happening at the football club? That sort of indicates that all isn’t well in the board room. So Charlie croasdale May have had a point in raising this??
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Post by Lobster on Apr 2, 2018 22:17:13 GMT
I fucking hate Twitter! Does it ever result in anything positive?
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Post by Charfield Blue on Apr 2, 2018 22:18:24 GMT
Everything is speculation at the moment. Another emergency meeting is required asap if this is to be saved. Those remaining must be under incredible pressure.
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Post by jb on Apr 2, 2018 22:19:03 GMT
As Rage Against the Machine said “Take the Power Black”. Next CFU meeting votes of no confidence and new board in place ASAP. Bollocks to constitutions etc the future of the club is at stake not egos.
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Post by jb on Apr 2, 2018 22:21:04 GMT
I fucking hate Twitter! Does it ever result in anything positive? I know that a lad that I work with has had a romantic break in Bristol this weekend. However, probably so do all the burglars in the area.
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Post by devaboyreturns on Apr 2, 2018 22:21:30 GMT
As Rage Against the Machine said “Take the Power Black”. Next CFU meeting votes of no confidence and new board in place ASAP. Bollocks to constitutions etc the future of the club is at stake not egos. I really cannot get my head around what is happening at this Club of ours. Losing Mark and Simon is absolutely disastrous. Imo, we now need to look at EGM ASAP
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Post by boughtonblue on Apr 2, 2018 22:21:57 GMT
We need to know the differences and let the CFU membership vote on them otherwise we will go bust. Let's put it to bed now. Supporters will not put more money into this farce.
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Post by Malcolm Tucker on Apr 2, 2018 22:24:43 GMT
Driving people who know what they’re doing off the board. God, our fans are fucking idiots. It’s embarrassing.
Presumably the usual critical suspects will be stepping up to the plate to fill these vacancies?
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Post by Little Blue Boy on Apr 2, 2018 22:28:24 GMT
Driving people who know what they’re doing off the board. God, our fans are fucking idiots. It’s embarrassing. Presumably the usual critical suspects will be stepping up to the plate to fill these vacancies? Can we stop it with this bollocks immediately. Olorenshaw has resigned due a difference of opinion with the BOARD. Howells has resigned due to someone WITHIN the club working against Calvin Hughes. Nothing to do with the fans.
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Post by Lobster on Apr 2, 2018 22:28:32 GMT
To be fair the mess behind the scenes isn’t due to the fans, and to blame them would be ridiculous. It’s to do with last last year or so of management of the club by the board/CEO etc, which since the news of our plight came out in February has caused a toxic environment now between everyone. So it is about the fans then. We can’t really claim to be a supporter owned club, then talk about ‘the board’ in the third person and absolve ourselves from any responsibility. This is embarrassing, absolutely embarrassing. It feels worse than Barnes, worse than Gutterman, worse than Smith, worse than Vaughan. It’s one thing to be shafted by a dodgy businessman and/or egotist, but this was a fresh start. We’ve shown as a group of supporters that we can’t even trust each other. I think this is the end, I’m afraid. What a dreadful, dreadful shame.
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Post by Al on Apr 2, 2018 22:29:06 GMT
This could very well be the end of our spell of fan ownership.
Those involved in the goings on the last few days should hang their fucking heads in shame tonight. Croasdale, and the rest.
Well fucking done, you've just helped kill our ideals of fan ownership.
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Post by spoonsie on Apr 2, 2018 22:29:14 GMT
As Rage Against the Machine said “Take the Power Black”. Next CFU meeting votes of no confidence and new board in place ASAP. Bollocks to constitutions etc the future of the club is at stake not egos. Who would volunteer to sit on the board??? You’d have to be crackers in the current situation.
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Post by uptheseals on Apr 2, 2018 22:29:25 GMT
I tell you what now Jack, a big massive well done to the social media warriors and Bignot fan club. Well done guys you've actually succeeded in killing the club. Congratulations. What on earth has respecting a manager with fuck all resources got to do with 2 board members resigning ffs
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Post by Oaks Blue on Apr 2, 2018 22:31:25 GMT
This could very well be the end of our spell of fan ownership. Those involved in the goings on the last few days should hang their fucking heads in shame tonight. Croasdale, and the rest. Well fucking done, you've just helped kill our ideals of fan ownership. It's called greed, and it's been rife through the club since reforming. Sad but true
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Post by uptheseals on Apr 2, 2018 22:32:00 GMT
Fuck the old board things needs to be done we need to vote out every single of the old board members and bring in fresh there the ones fucking this club up if they were a fan of Chester and genuinely cared about us they'd left when all others did instead clinging on stuff needs to be done about it and we need to act now
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Post by cfc-blue on Apr 2, 2018 22:32:15 GMT
To be fair the mess behind the scenes isn’t due to the fans, and to blame them would be ridiculous. It’s to do with last last year or so of management of the club by the board/CEO etc, which since the news of our plight came out in February has caused a toxic environment now between everyone. So it is about the fans then. We can’t really claim to be a supporter owned club, then talk about ‘the board’ in the third person and absolve ourselves from any responsibility. This is embarrassing, absolutely embarrassing. It feels worse than Barnes, worse than Gutterman, worse than Smith, worse than Vaughan. It’s one thing to be shafted by a dodgy businessman and/or egotist, but this was a fresh start. We’ve shown as a group of supporters that we can’t even trust each other. I think this is the end, I’m afraid. What a dreadful, dreadful shame. I was referring to an earlier post whereby the vocal fans were blamed for stirring. I was just pointing out where all this negativity has came from. And unfortunately I don’t feel the fans in general have fair representation in this current situation, which seems obvious by the lack of communication from the board about whatever the hell is happening behind the scenes.
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Post by btb on Apr 2, 2018 22:32:35 GMT
I tell you what now Jack, a big massive well done to the social media warriors and Bignot fan club. Well done guys you've actually succeeded in killing the club. Congratulations. What on earth has respecting a manager with fuck all resources got to do with 2 board members resigning ffs Nothing at all. I respect him myself, whilst thinking it's the right thing he goes. It's just some tits in their frustration at the decision went beyond what is acceptable in voicing their opinions online. Is it too hard for people to understand we needed to back this board? That was a chance to save the club.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Apr 2, 2018 22:32:57 GMT
Comes across to be internal wrangling rather than outside criticism. Think the time has come to have a fully clean sweep of whatever is left of the current board - and reappoint from scratch with ten NEW names who are willing to put themselves forward. No baggage from previous etc.
Two problems - how that works and who/how many want to step forward.
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Post by trev on Apr 2, 2018 22:33:22 GMT
This is appalling news. What on earth is going on ? An EGM is needed to try and sort this mess out ? The internal politics and game playing whilst ordinary fans are expected to put their hands in pockets to save the Club is reprehensible. In my view all existing board members pre October 2017 should have already resigned. If all this damaging manoeuvring is in some way trying to engineer a change in ownership or control , then these supposed fans should hang their heads in shame tonight. The loss to the Club of Simon O and Mark Howell (and possibly others) is ridiculous and a severe act of self-harm.
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Post by hackett on Apr 2, 2018 22:37:02 GMT
If we move away from fan ownership it will be the end. Guaranteed I hope you fuckwits who constantantly attack the board are happy with yourselves. Brilliant job lads I'm sure O'Toole, the soliciter and friends are sitting reading their Torie weekly, sipping their pimms and having a lovely evening. Superb work guys. As O'Toole's Twitter previously stated he is a Labour voter. Not that it has anything to do with the current board members stepping down. Too many people on here talk about things which have absoloutely fuck all to do with the club, current situation or of any real importance. Put your time in to doing something about it rather than nitpicking.
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