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Post by billyw on Apr 3, 2018 10:07:20 GMT
Is it too much to ask for a statement by the Club to be issued in relation to the Chronicle article this morning? We should be getting informed by the Club as to what is happening, not having to rely on the local paper. After all, some of us own this club. Hear hear
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Post by Matt on Apr 3, 2018 10:09:32 GMT
Is it too much to ask for a statement by the Club to be issued in relation to the Chronicle article this morning? We should be getting informed by the Club as to what is happening, not having to rely on the local paper. After all, some of us own this club. Hear hear It's a Joke. The only communication I follow is twitter updates from Dave Powell. Only way I know whats going on.
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Post by trev on Apr 3, 2018 10:10:40 GMT
What email address did you use? I used info@chesterfc.com That what it is says for general enquiries on the website. At least someone will pick it up there today. Not sure what else to do. Doubt it will make any difference. Maybe if loads of us contact them, it might?? Quick question Harry. It is often the case that many board members do not attend formal/informal CFU meetings. Without potentially many of the players not being compelled to be on the field, how will members get the necessary answers or a full picture of what is going on beyond the usual PR responses ? I am beginning to feel that only the pain of an EGM can get to the bottom of this mess, and if necessary then remove those who have not acted in the best interests of the Club.
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Post by sqzl on Apr 3, 2018 10:11:54 GMT
We're in sh** street IMO. SO and MH resigning and Neil Young leaving as a volunteer, clearly there's major issues behind the scenes. Is it possible to overthrow your own board, how would it be done? It's starting to look like a bit of a 'boys club' in there and i can't see us moving forward positively under the current conditions, terrible news for the club.
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Post by nigelhopkins on Apr 3, 2018 10:40:07 GMT
Whilst the club is in crisis the bloke who got us here (Maguire) is sitting at home watching day time TV waiting to get another job in football admin.
Wonder which club he will screw up next ?
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Post by agl on Apr 3, 2018 11:01:13 GMT
Whilst the club is in crisis the bloke who got us here (Maguire) is sitting at home watching day time TV waiting to get another job in football admin. Wonder which club he will screw up next ? And so it begins...while anyone who cares for the club is trying to look forwards and find a way out of this mess the usual suspects will start banging on about Maguire, McCarthy, Steve Burr etc etc. We get it, they were crap, who ever warned us was right ......but can we just move on. It's boring and pointless to keep dragging up the same old bile and just deflects from what's actually happening now. Any thoughts on how to save the club or is that your contribution for the day?
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Post by sqzl on Apr 3, 2018 11:02:03 GMT
Whilst the club is in crisis the bloke who got us here (Maguire) is sitting at home watching day time TV waiting to get another job in football admin. Wonder which club he will screw up next ? Not really of our concern in fairness whopper. What is our concern is making sure we have a team to support next season. I fear the worst with the last two months seemingly not going away, the board look out of their depth on the most part. Like Al said, this isn't what we all signed up for and discussed. I really struggle to see a way forward for our ownership model, especially with members of the board not behind it!
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Post by nigelhopkins on Apr 3, 2018 11:04:58 GMT
When I think of all the abuse I used to get for calling on McCarthy/maguire to be sacked for gross incompetence all those months ago.
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Post by agl on Apr 3, 2018 11:09:52 GMT
When I think of all the abuse I used to get for calling on McCarthy/maguire to be sacked for gross incompetence all those months ago. OK, you were right. Well done.
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Post by bluetartan on Apr 3, 2018 11:15:23 GMT
Said it before, social media is the scourge of modern society where previously people’s second guesses, thoughts and bile were stored in their heads now have a public place to flow out without a second thought to how true the story may or may not be or the legality of numerous things posted here and all over social media on numerous subjects. This whole world is going down the pan driven by Facebook twitter and the internet. FAKE NEWS? you bet it’s everywhere and causes division in everything from politicians to businessmen to the common man. This club is being ripped apart from within just like society. I have read this site and it’s predecessor since day one and have often been amazed at numerous topics and comments over the years that if said on the street would result in arrest or violence. How sad is it that this great project of ours is being torn apart before our very eyes, something so many worked so hard to set up so that we all had a team to support and pass on to the next generations. Where has the ethos gone? OUR CITY, OUR COMMUNITY, OUR CLUB, that really means something, or should to everyone who alleges to support this club, The constant fighting and moaning from people who seem to know what’s best but would never put themselves forward for anything. This bickering HAS to stop this club is in very real danger if it’s not already reached the event horizon. If we can’t all get over the idiotic garbage and nonsense spouted everywhere this project has no future whether it be fan owned or part fan owned or what ever as well never get to the day for those discussions to take place. Take a step back and think about it all. The club obviously needs help not hownding, turn up at the next CFU meeting member or not and voice your concerns in a constructive way its the apathy by many that have also played a part in our demise. A very sad day indeed.
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Post by trev on Apr 3, 2018 11:23:32 GMT
Latest from Dave Powell, which I imagine most ordinarily fans will fully concur with;
"I love my football club and I always want what is best for it. But until we get full disclosure and complete clarity on what has and what is going on then we simply can't move forward."
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Apr 3, 2018 11:24:54 GMT
* SIGH * Do we really have to go through this with you again? People want information, I tell you what I’ve been told. You want transparency, I do what I can. Do you prefer to know what the departing chairman thinks, or prefer to continue hearing nothing. You've heard one side of the argument. Also this really should be official - we ALL have a right to know what the hell is going on. EGM time again.
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Post by Hannibal on Apr 3, 2018 11:39:58 GMT
*Former board member
Seems the same person who has spoken to Danny is also the same person who tried setting up Calvin Hughes by getting Charlie Croasdale to attack him on Twitter.
Like I've said, it was all part of a power grab move which failed last night, hence the resignation of our now former Chairman.
NWAS resigned over the treatment of CH and board reluctance to publicly back him.
Danny McNally, care to share with the rest of the forum (and supporters) who fed you this info, or do I have to copy and paste your PM on here?
Just said who Al. Simon popped up in my twitter direct messages last night after I sent a tweet to him asking what had changed since his last tweet, which was a positive tweet about the board working and working groups working to get the club into shape. He’s explained himself and I’m going off that information on my posts. If this is true it puts him in a bad light. If he's got something to say he should put it out to everyone. I'd given him the benefit of doubt in hiring Mark Maguire, but what does he expect when he leaks stuff out in this way. I spoke to someone in the gym today(not a fan) and he said the club's finished and I couldn't argue with that. How many of you believed that MM was a good guy because Danny said so. I knew MM quite well and he was a calculating self-server. He should never be involved in football again. He's now taken 3 clubs to the brink. Stockport are still recovering.
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Post by happyclapper on Apr 3, 2018 11:46:32 GMT
People want information, I tell you what I’ve been told. You want transparency, I do what I can. Do you prefer to know what the departing chairman thinks, or prefer to continue hearing nothing. You've heard one side of the argument. Also this really should be official - we ALL have a right to know what the hell is going on. EGM time again. In order for an EGM to be brought about does there not need to be a motion put forward to be voted on at the EGM? or can we just ask for an EGM? If a motion is to be put forward what would it say?
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Post by Lobster on Apr 3, 2018 11:52:39 GMT
When I think of all the abuse I used to get for calling on McCarthy/maguire to be sacked for gross incompetence all those months ago. OK, you were right. Well done. Neither McCarthy nor Maguire would appear to have anything to with this fresh turnmoil though. Keep us with the latest crisis, now!
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Post by nigelhopkins on Apr 3, 2018 11:52:46 GMT
"He should never be involved in football again. He's now taken 3 clubs to the brink. Stockport are still recovering."
At last fans are realising the man was an incompetent fool.
Praise the Lord.
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Post by dmcnally on Apr 3, 2018 12:15:52 GMT
Neil Young has left Chester FC. Resigned from his advisory position after the Macclesfield game.
I don’t know where this leaves Bignot. He said he was going to resign if Young didn’t join so what happens now...
We’ve lost the good guys, and whoever is causing this poisionious situation remains. And they’re meant to save our club?
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Post by Hannibal on Apr 3, 2018 12:17:29 GMT
I and most ordinary fans/owners looking at the current shambles, are totally confused about the motives of those apparently running the Club - whoever they are right now. The Club appears as a rudderless, embarrassing basket case with seemingly agendas of some (unknown) being propagated through the press, selected individuals and may be even DC. The apparent infighting is a disgrace and making a mockery of those fans and people from around the country who so generously donated and helped out to recently save the club. I may be wrong but as far as I can see many of those primarily responsible for the previous crisis are now in control - for reasons and disagreements so far unknown. I'm beginning to think that maybe the Clubs Chaplain as a man of peace should be asked for an honest assessment of the position, and while he's at it maybe he could ask for some much needed divine intervention !! Already asked him and he laughed. I think he thought I was joking. The toxicity at board level will take us down and I doubt the phoenix will ever rise again.
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Post by sqzl on Apr 3, 2018 12:18:47 GMT
"He should never be involved in football again. He's now taken 3 clubs to the brink. Stockport are still recovering." At last fans are realising the man was an incompetent fool. Praise the Lord. Don't think anyone can argue he did a terrible job on the whole. Only positive was fresh sponsorships but lets be honest, they don't come close to making up the the financial turmoil.
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Post by Hannibal on Apr 3, 2018 12:22:50 GMT
Whilst the club is in crisis the bloke who got us here (Maguire) is sitting at home watching day time TV waiting to get another job in football admin. Wonder which club he will screw up next ? What half decent manager will want to touch us with a bargepole after this latest debacle.
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Post by sqzl on Apr 3, 2018 12:24:51 GMT
I'm just going to say it. The board are all Chester fans, it doesn't mean they won't run us into the ground because they're absolutely clueless when it comes to running a football club. I don'y care who owns what business and how successful they are away from the club, it's a different kettle of fish as alancfc posted previously and nobody in the current roles are capable of pulling us out of a hole. I hate the comparisons people make to the likes of Wrexham and AFC Wimbledon in terms of being fan owned, they have two things we don't. 1) FANS 2)Board leadership.
We've gone too far down the wrong path now, board members wanting us to get investors in, do they even understand the ethos of their own club?
Can anyone see our fanbase uniting and positivity going forward any more? I see very few options now other than to remove the board, in full... or cave in to the few that are on it wanting to play football manager and get an investor in.
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Post by Matt on Apr 3, 2018 12:25:35 GMT
Just been looking at the names on the board before the resignations last night and these were the positions filled.
Laurence Kirby - Finance Mark Howell - Youth Mike Day - Youth/Systems Andrew Morris - People David Harrington-Wright - Commercial David Williams - Fundraising Mark Jones - Governance Calvin Hughes - First Team Jeff Banks - Fan Engagement & Community
Richard Lynes holds no portfolio as non-executive director on the board, whilst Marion Needham continues in the role of CFU Secretary.
Simon will oversee all board members and their portfolios, whilst also acting as the figurehead for the CFU. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Who is this Richard Lynes anyone have any idea? as it says nothing as to what his contribution to the board is.
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Post by trev on Apr 3, 2018 13:03:20 GMT
Just been looking at the names on the board before the resignations last night and these were the positions filled. Laurence Kirby - Finance Mark Howell - Youth Mike Day - Youth/Systems Andrew Morris - People David Harrington-Wright - Commercial David Williams - Fundraising Mark Jones - Governance Calvin Hughes - First Team Jeff Banks - Fan Engagement & Community Richard Lynes holds no portfolio as non-executive director on the board, whilst Marion Needham continues in the role of CFU Secretary. Simon will oversee all board members and their portfolios, whilst also acting as the figurehead for the CFU. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Who is this Richard Lynes anyone have any idea? as it says nothing as to what his contribution to the board is. I understand that Richard Lynes has been around the club before and after it was reformed, having formerly fronting the Chester city supporters trust during Vaughan's time. As a volunteer I believe he has been running the Governance working group (whatever that is) for quite some time, and in the last few weeks popped up on the Board with little explanation. In addition he is now apparently undertaking the Clubs review in to what went wrong and which led to the financial crisis pre 25 Janauary 2018. It should be noted that publically ("Richard" on DC) often implied he had the inside track of what was going in at the Club , and strongly backed Jon McCarthy to stay in post even after last seasons debacle, being highly critical of those who ventured a contrary opinion to his.
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Post by loskasleftfoot on Apr 3, 2018 13:20:31 GMT
Whilst not knowing Richard personally I have known of him for 30 years or more from his days as Chief Steward and attending most if not all away games.
He is Chester through and through and I can think of no-one better to undertake the important tasks given to him.
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Post by Lobster on Apr 3, 2018 13:34:53 GMT
Said it before, social media is the scourge of modern society where previously people’s second guesses, thoughts and bile were stored in their heads now have a public place to flow out without a second thought to how true the story may or may not be or the legality of numerous things posted here and all over social media on numerous subjects. This whole world is going down the pan driven by Facebook twitter and the internet. FAKE NEWS? you bet it’s everywhere and causes division in everything from politicians to businessmen to the common man. This club is being ripped apart from within just like society. I have read this site and it’s predecessor since day one and have often been amazed at numerous topics and comments over the years that if said on the street would result in arrest or violence. How sad is it that this great project of ours is being torn apart before our very eyes, something so many worked so hard to set up so that we all had a team to support and pass on to the next generations. Where has the ethos gone? OUR CITY, OUR COMMUNITY, OUR CLUB, that really means something, or should to everyone who alleges to support this club, The constant fighting and moaning from people who seem to know what’s best but would never put themselves forward for anything. This bickering HAS to stop this club is in very real danger if it’s not already reached the event horizon. If we can’t all get over the idiotic garbage and nonsense spouted everywhere this project has no future whether it be fan owned or part fan owned or what ever as well never get to the day for those discussions to take place. Take a step back and think about it all. The club obviously needs help not hownding, turn up at the next CFU meeting member or not and voice your concerns in a constructive way its the apathy by many that have also played a part in our demise. A very sad day indeed. It sums up Twitter that the second highest trend today is #PunishAMuslimDay. Yes, most people are tweeting against it, but still, that sums up how toxic a medium it is, and for the site to just present a hashtag like that as something to have a good old tweet about. Talk about bringing extremism into the mainstream.
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Post by stangandy on Apr 3, 2018 13:38:16 GMT
Sorry to be a pedant Loska but I think you've got you're Richards mixed - Richard Lynes (gives extensive and often wise advice to the Board) and Richard Prince (chief steward) - both fine blues in my view.
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Post by loskasleftfoot on Apr 3, 2018 13:42:32 GMT
My apologies Stan - now I feel a right Richard !
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Post by nostradamus on Apr 3, 2018 13:51:16 GMT
Well I can't make head nor tail of any of this. 6 pages of recriminations, and I am none the wiser as to who are the good guys, who are the bad guys, and have no proper information on which to come to a view as to the best way forward.
A written statement is required from the CFU Board to its members (the owners of the club and those who the Board are supposed to represent) setting out clearly and in good faith the issues that are being dealt with and where differences of opinion are arising. Where appropriate, and if there are real differences of opinion that are highly divisive, the Board should seek the views of CFU members as to how they should proceed.
The Board themselves should propose an EGM so that questions may be asked and answers given. It may be best for some of these questions to be tabled in advance so that they are given the respect that they deserve (and that they are answered in a proper manner).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2018 14:22:04 GMT
Just been looking at the names on the board before the resignations last night and these were the positions filled. Laurence Kirby - Finance Mark Howell - Youth Mike Day - Youth/Systems Andrew Morris - PeopleDavid Harrington-Wright - Commercial David Williams - Fundraising Mark Jones - Governance Calvin Hughes - First Team Jeff Banks - Fan Engagement & Community Richard Lynes holds no portfolio as non-executive director on the board, whilst Marion Needham continues in the role of CFU Secretary. Simon will oversee all board members and their portfolios, whilst also acting as the figurehead for the CFU. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Who is this Richard Lynes anyone have any idea? as it says nothing as to what his contribution to the board is. What exactly is the role of this one? In charge of people?
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Post by Al on Apr 3, 2018 14:31:16 GMT
Just been looking at the names on the board before the resignations last night and these were the positions filled. Laurence Kirby - Finance Mark Howell - Youth Mike Day - Youth/Systems Andrew Morris - PeopleDavid Harrington-Wright - Commercial David Williams - Fundraising Mark Jones - Governance Calvin Hughes - First Team Jeff Banks - Fan Engagement & Community Richard Lynes holds no portfolio as non-executive director on the board, whilst Marion Needham continues in the role of CFU Secretary. Simon will oversee all board members and their portfolios, whilst also acting as the figurehead for the CFU. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Who is this Richard Lynes anyone have any idea? as it says nothing as to what his contribution to the board is. What exactly is the role of this one? In charge of people? HR
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