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Post by eltonblues on Apr 3, 2018 14:34:30 GMT
Just been looking at the names on the board before the resignations last night and these were the positions filled. Laurence Kirby - Finance Mark Howell - Youth Mike Day - Youth/Systems Andrew Morris - PeopleDavid Harrington-Wright - Commercial David Williams - Fundraising Mark Jones - Governance Calvin Hughes - First Team Jeff Banks - Fan Engagement & Community Richard Lynes holds no portfolio as non-executive director on the board, whilst Marion Needham continues in the role of CFU Secretary. Simon will oversee all board members and their portfolios, whilst also acting as the figurehead for the CFU. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Who is this Richard Lynes anyone have any idea? as it says nothing as to what his contribution to the board is. What exactly is the role of this one? In charge of people? hr in normal speak
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Post by trev on Apr 3, 2018 14:38:23 GMT
I think Mr Morris was elected to the Board in October and has the HR role, but unclear whether this extends into the football and recruitment side of the Club. I believe he had the unenviable job of organising Mr Maguire's redundancy. At the dreadful 25 January meeting, and in contrast to other Board members, he came across reasonably well.
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Post by bonecrusher on Apr 3, 2018 14:49:21 GMT
When I think of all the abuse I used to get for calling on McCarthy/maguire to be sacked for gross incompetence all those months ago. It wasnt your point of view that pissed people off.
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Post by bonecrusher on Apr 3, 2018 14:59:22 GMT
My God its desperate now isn't it. Utter crap on and off the field it seems now and I seriously worry whether we will have a club this time next year. I'm not close enough to know the ins and outs of this but I'm not about to be critical of well meaning individuals because I have no intention of stepping up. I'm a season ticket holder, committed to the support of the club but have neither the time or inclination to run a football club. Outside investment is, for me, the only say we can possibly survive at this level. Where that might come from is anyone's guess. The alternative is struggling in the glue leagues in front of crowds of 500. But this is now turning into an embarassing mess and I for one, as a pure supporter and nothing more wont be renewing my season ticket until we can demonstrate some stability and organisation. Sad sad times this, especially after the amazing fundraising efforts of the past few months. McCarthy apparently got the 'ethos' of the club. Well him and the rest should hang their heads for the fuck up that has been Chester FC this season.
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Post by canadianexile on Apr 3, 2018 15:08:08 GMT
As Rage Against the Machine said “Take the Power Black”. Next CFU meeting votes of no confidence and new board in place ASAP. Bollocks to constitutions etc the future of the club is at stake not egos. Tune
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Post by bonecrusher on Apr 3, 2018 15:11:42 GMT
As Rage Against the Machine said “Take the Power Black”. Next CFU meeting votes of no confidence and new board in place ASAP. Bollocks to constitutions etc the future of the club is at stake not egos. Tune Rage Against The Machine also said Killing in the name of Know Your Enemy Settle for nothing Just saying...
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Post by Matt on Apr 3, 2018 15:13:24 GMT
It's going to a while before we get a statement as all board members have got to agree with it. Why don't they Just admit they've messed up, destroyed the Club and stand down.
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Post by avfo on Apr 3, 2018 15:16:20 GMT
I think Mr Morris was elected to the Board in October and has the HR role, but unclear whether this extends into the football and recruitment side of the Club. I believe he had the unenviable job of organising Mr Maguire's redundancy. At the dreadful 25 January meeting, and in contrast to other Board members, he came across reasonably well. Andrew Morris – People - this covered all aspects relating to staff and volunteers including development and human resources. In addition to current volunteers AM would be contacting those people who had indicated in the ‘Black the Blues’ survey who had expressed an interest in volunteering.
Calvin Hughes – First team – this includes working with the football manager and football secretary and issues relating to player contracts, recruitment, scouting and player recruitment.
In addition - The Football Working Group consists(ed?) of Calvin Hughes, Mark Howell, Laurence Kirby, Bernard Concannon, Martin Williams + Steve Jones.
www.cityfansunited.com/docs/CFU_Members_Meeting_8thMarch2018.pdf
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Post by sirfred on Apr 3, 2018 15:20:02 GMT
- Problem is a all these volunteers are just that so when criticism flies around the majority will say stuff that for a game of soldiers and so the merry go round continues over and over again - it was fantastic when things were going well with successive promotions and back slapping since performances have deteriorated the constant merry go round gets more frantic - I really don't know how this can be halted we are imploding
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Post by Matt on Apr 3, 2018 15:37:42 GMT
I think Mr Morris was elected to the Board in October and has the HR role, but unclear whether this extends into the football and recruitment side of the Club. I believe he had the unenviable job of organising Mr Maguire's redundancy. At the dreadful 25 January meeting, and in contrast to other Board members, he came across reasonably well. Andrew Morris – People - this covered all aspects relating to staff and volunteers including development and human resources. In addition to current volunteers AM would be contacting those people who had indicated in the ‘Black the Blues’ survey who had expressed an interest in volunteering.
Calvin Hughes – First team – this includes working with the football manager and football secretary and issues relating to player contracts, recruitment, scouting and player recruitment.
In addition - The Football Working Group consists(ed?) of Calvin Hughes, Mark Howell, Laurence Kirby, Bernard Concannon, Martin Williams + Steve Jones.
www.cityfansunited.com/docs/CFU_Members_Meeting_8thMarch2018.pdf
Is their scouting system Player search finishing and Heading 12/20 using Football Manager?
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Post by cooperman on Apr 3, 2018 15:44:53 GMT
As Rage Against the Machine said “Take the Power Black”. Next CFU meeting votes of no confidence and new board in place ASAP. Bollocks to constitutions etc the future of the club is at stake not egos. Who would volunteer to sit on the board??? You’d have to be crackers in the current situation. i would !!! 30 years experience of running a business
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Post by Matt on Apr 3, 2018 15:49:08 GMT
Who would volunteer to sit on the board??? You’d have to be crackers in the current situation. i would !!! 30 years experience of running a business The boxing picture gives me the heebie jeebies of a previous owner
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Post by trev on Apr 3, 2018 15:57:01 GMT
I think Mr Morris was elected to the Board in October and has the HR role, but unclear whether this extends into the football and recruitment side of the Club. I believe he had the unenviable job of organising Mr Maguire's redundancy. At the dreadful 25 January meeting, and in contrast to other Board members, he came across reasonably well. Andrew Morris – People - this covered all aspects relating to staff and volunteers including development and human resources. In addition to current volunteers AM would be contacting those people who had indicated in the ‘Black the Blues’ survey who had expressed an interest in volunteering.
Calvin Hughes – First team – this includes working with the football manager and football secretary and issues relating to player contracts, recruitment, scouting and player recruitment.
In addition - The Football Working Group consists(ed?) of Calvin Hughes, Mark Howell, Laurence Kirby, Bernard Concannon, Martin Williams + Steve Jones.
www.cityfansunited.com/docs/CFU_Members_Meeting_8thMarch2018.pdf
Cheers AVfO. This wasn't there when I last looked on the CFU website. This note of the meeting on 8th March goes into some detail, and shows that the Club was moving in the right direction on a variety of fronts. Three weeks later normal service has been resumed, depressingly .
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Post by Hannibal on Apr 3, 2018 15:57:41 GMT
"He should never be involved in football again. He's now taken 3 clubs to the brink. Stockport are still recovering." At last fans are realising the man was an incompetent fool. Praise the Lord. I knew him quite well. He was a charmer. I was also concerned that he was not justifying his salary which was £1k plus per week. I had complete faith that the board were scrutinising his performance, but unfortunately they were mesmerised by his charm/personality call it what you like. He cost the club £100,000 but failed in his remit which was primarily to increase the turnover. It's all very well coming on here and repeating that someone is incompetent, you come across as a bit of a dildo, which was why you were banned. I fear that unless the 6 board members fail to resign the toxicity within the club will be terminal and they show no signs of doing so. The fan-owned experiment has been an abject failure, but there are those who are blind to that. We need a new board and an investor.
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Post by canadianexile on Apr 3, 2018 16:00:57 GMT
Rage Against The Machine also said Killing in the name of Know Your Enemy Settle for nothing Just saying... Why can't we hold a music festival / live music events at the Deva like they do at Wrexham's ground since the university bought it?
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Post by Matt on Apr 3, 2018 16:06:58 GMT
Rage Against The Machine also said Killing in the name of Know Your Enemy Settle for nothing Just saying... Why can't we hold a music festival / live music events at the Deva like they do at Wrexham's ground since the university bought it? I don't know how it works. Wrexham made money from there's but Tranmere do it too. They made a loss of 300k.. No idea how.
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Post by Blockhead on Apr 3, 2018 16:15:16 GMT
Why can't we hold a music festival / live music events at the Deva like they do at Wrexham's ground since the university bought it? I don't know how it works. Wrexham made money from there's but Tranmere do it too. They made a loss of 300k.. No idea how. They were greedy and thought they could do it all on their own, rather then settling for a more modest fee from an experienced events company i think. They over ordered on consumables such as beer and were left with the cost of writing them off. For the record, it wasnt that badly managed to be fair, Madness were excellent there, but the lack of experience of these sorts of events let them down.
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Post by rossettred on Apr 3, 2018 16:17:07 GMT
Why can't we hold a music festival / live music events at the Deva like they do at Wrexham's ground since the university bought it? I don't know how it works. Wrexham made money from there's but Tranmere do it too. They made a loss of 300k.. No idea how. Promoters get all the ticket sales etc but Wrexham get the concessions such as alcohol and food sales.....something you should look into. Plenty of parking round your place.
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Post by Matt on Apr 3, 2018 16:23:48 GMT
I don't know how it works. Wrexham made money from there's but Tranmere do it too. They made a loss of 300k.. No idea how. Promoters get all the ticket sales etc but Wrexham get the concessions such as alcohol and food sales.....something you should look into. Plenty of parking round your place. Not sure a concert in an industrial estate will be that appealing worth a look though
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Apr 3, 2018 16:36:54 GMT
I think Mr Morris was elected to the Board in October and has the HR role, but unclear whether this extends into the football and recruitment side of the Club. I believe he had the unenviable job of organising Mr Maguire's redundancy. At the dreadful 25 January meeting, and in contrast to other Board members, he came across reasonably well. Andrew Morris – People - this covered all aspects relating to staff and volunteers including development and human resources. In addition to current volunteers AM would be contacting those people who had indicated in the ‘Black the Blues’ survey who had expressed an interest in volunteering.
Calvin Hughes – First team – this includes working with the football manager and football secretary and issues relating to player contracts, recruitment, scouting and player recruitment.
In addition - The Football Working Group consists(ed?) of Calvin Hughes, Mark Howell, Laurence Kirby, Bernard Concannon, Martin Williams + Steve Jones.
www.cityfansunited.com/docs/CFU_Members_Meeting_8thMarch2018.pdf
So Calvin is being ostracised for doing his job then? Quite clearly states the elements of his role there. The fact that three board members include the financial director also sit on the same working group would render any rumours about him going behind backs as rubbish. An orchestrated smear campaign?
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Post by Hannibal on Apr 3, 2018 16:44:30 GMT
Said it before, social media is the scourge of modern society where previously people’s second guesses, thoughts and bile were stored in their heads now have a public place to flow out without a second thought to how true the story may or may not be or the legality of numerous things posted here and all over social media on numerous subjects. This whole world is going down the pan driven by Facebook twitter and the internet. FAKE NEWS? you bet it’s everywhere and causes division in everything from politicians to businessmen to the common man. This club is being ripped apart from within just like society. I have read this site and it’s predecessor since day one and have often been amazed at numerous topics and comments over the years that if said on the street would result in arrest or violence. How sad is it that this great project of ours is being torn apart before our very eyes, something so many worked so hard to set up so that we all had a team to support and pass on to the next generations. Where has the ethos gone? OUR CITY, OUR COMMUNITY, OUR CLUB, that really means something, or should to everyone who alleges to support this club, The constant fighting and moaning from people who seem to know what’s best but would never put themselves forward for anything. This bickering HAS to stop this club is in very real danger if it’s not already reached the event horizon. If we can’t all get over the idiotic garbage and nonsense spouted everywhere this project has no future whether it be fan owned or part fan owned or what ever as well never get to the day for those discussions to take place. Take a step back and think about it all. The club obviously needs help not hownding, turn up at the next CFU meeting member or not and voice your concerns in a constructive way its the apathy by many that have also played a part in our demise. A very sad day indeed. It sums up Twitter that the second highest trend today is #PunishAMuslimDay. Yes, most people are tweeting against it, but still, that sums up how toxic a medium it is, and for the site to just present a hashtag like that as something to have a good old tweet about. Talk about bringing extremism into the mainstream. Whoever invented Twitter wants twatting.
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Post by Hannibal on Apr 3, 2018 16:47:04 GMT
I don't know how it works. Wrexham made money from there's but Tranmere do it too. They made a loss of 300k.. No idea how. Promoters get all the ticket sales etc but Wrexham get the concessions such as alcohol and food sales.....something you should look into. Plenty of parking round your place. There are parking spaces intermingled with the potholes.
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Post by gezzer on Apr 3, 2018 17:10:35 GMT
One possible positive from all this is the opportunity to see what the Strategy working group (led by SO I believe) has been upto, as a minimum I would expect they have something in place to carry us through to next season. We have seen output from each of the others but cannot recall anything from the SWG. Also be interesting to see if there is a natural progression route for any of the volunteers to now lead the group
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Post by Bersham Blue on Apr 3, 2018 17:32:15 GMT
Promoters get all the ticket sales etc but Wrexham get the concessions such as alcohol and food sales.....something you should look into. Plenty of parking round your place. Not sure a concert in an industrial estate will be that appealing worth a look though Chester choose to make the pitch available to hire for football matches for various events throughout May, before they tear it up. Its then treated for a month before pre-season begins in July. Wrexham choose to have concerts like Stereophonics and Olly Murs(Boo) during June, which then after this they tear their own pitch up. Because this is so late they arn't able to have a pre-season at their own ground to let the new pitch bed-in . Either Away games or pre season tours during July for Wrexham for as long as they do concerts. It does create a feel good factor in the town however, although some acts they bring arn't all to my taste.
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Post by gezzer on Apr 3, 2018 19:04:14 GMT
From DC1 NFBF I would’ve liked to put this on the other forum, but can’t seem to get onto it. I think the biggest problem at the moment is not so much the resignations but the effect of that to the National League. Surely it won’t be long until they start asking questions? Continual changes of chairmen, carousel of continual changes of board members? Doesn’t sound like a very stable football club does it? Let’s just hope they don’t come calling for a cash bond to make sure we can complete our fixtures. As far as my limited information is, the people wanting to get involved with the football club, firstly, already contribute greatly to the football club. I know also that there would be no attempt to change the clubs constitution, so that ghost can be laid once and for all. The current board, whoever’s left, now has to listen to anybody who thinks that they can improve the football club, not only at the moment, but for the future. It’s no good about them being “precious” by thinking “only they know what’s good for the football club” Internal politics I’m afraid has had a hold on this club for far too long, and if you want proof, ask why we have had SO many changes of chairmen and board members in the relatively short time this “new” club has been in operation, and there’s your reason why. That, along with some costly and unfortunate decisions over the last couple of seasons has put us where we are. People have got to make some very hard choices, if you want to hang on to your own agendas and are not willing to accept change,then I’m afraid this club has no where to go. The meeting requesting help and money not so long ago, should’ve been the catalyst for a “new look” at how the clubs been run and the need to embrace new ideas and changes. Obviously this has not happened so that’s why we find ourselves in this position. Old ideas and agendas have not worked, and will not work, so in my personal opinion the whole board should resign, now whether that’s now or we wait for the AGM, I don’t know. But the fans can then decide on the Election of a totally new board, they will be able to recollect what has happened with past boards, and decide, do they want more of the same, or a new board with new ideas, not old agendas to take over the running of the football club. The club has proved over the last two years that it has run out of ideas, new blood and ideas have now got to be introduced to save the club, and I mean SAVE. Thankfully there is some things to build on in Calum’s sterling work with the Academy, an example of outside help in his case,having his wages sponsored has been a tremendous help, I don’t hear anybody moaning about having financial help from an outside source about that! I’m still concerned that the directors of the football are not seen enough, especially after a game in the Blues Bar, thankfully Simon, since his election was seen regularly in the B.B but usually on his own. There is no point in coming and asking for help and money from the supporters if they don’t know who you are! What ever happens, the one lesson that has got be addressed by whoever ends up running the club, firstly, yet again, COMMUNICATION. The board has to be prepared to meet and talk to it’s fans, (“ the owners”) whether it’s before or after a game or at a Senior Blues meeting. They cannot continually be taken for granted and ignored! There are some great supporters in the all the groups connected to the football club, the Exiles, Inclusive Blues, the away travel all do their bit, as well as the Senior Blues who have, and are still raising money to help the young players at the football club. They perhaps don’t get the recognition they deserve, but they carry on regardless! So it really is crunch time down at the Deva, and it needs some people to take a hard look at themselves and ask themselves, “ What can I do to help the football club?” Rather than “What can the football club do for me?”
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Post by Jack on Apr 3, 2018 19:12:21 GMT
I honestly wouldn't know most of the board if I fell over them. I'm not in the bar after games and I rarely get to CFU meetings, so I'm not suggesting I'm blameless in that, but it still cannot be right.
I really would like to know, once and for all, who are the board members who NFBF is suggesting have their own agenda and are holding us back?
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Post by gone4eva on Apr 3, 2018 19:16:46 GMT
Looks like we are blaming everyone aside from ourselves.
Yeah, twitter and social media caused this.
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Post by wxmred on Apr 3, 2018 19:32:55 GMT
Promoters get all the ticket sales etc but Wrexham get the concessions such as alcohol and food sales.....something you should look into. Plenty of parking round your place. Not sure a concert in an industrial estate will be that appealing worth a look though It should work, I don't think you have many houses near your ground so noise pollution shouldn't be a problem. I think noise levels are limited at the Racecourse because of the houses on Mold rd.
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Post by Harry Lime on Apr 3, 2018 19:52:49 GMT
Not sure a concert in an industrial estate will be that appealing worth a look though It should work, I don't think you have many houses near your ground so noise pollution shouldn't be a problem. I think noise levels are limited at the Racecourse because of the houses on Mold rd. In your case isn't the risk taken by the University, rather than than the football club? You just get the concession money. We'd have to take the risk ourselves, unless a promoter booked the ground for the day and took all the risk. We can't even run a football club, never mind a music concert.
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Post by Neil Fishers Biggest Fan on Apr 3, 2018 20:25:52 GMT
I honestly wouldn't know most of the board if I fell over them. I'm not in the bar after games and I rarely get to CFU meetings, so I'm not suggesting I'm blameless in that, but it still cannot be right. I really would like to know, once and for all, who are the board members who NFBF is suggesting have their own agenda and are holding us back? It is obvious there has been no general consensus of board members over the last two or three years, hence the merry go round of chairmen and board members. This is obviously because of lack of agreement between board members. That is healthy, but at the end of the day, it cannot go on for ever like that, sometime, and that time is NOW, and in this case, pride has to swallowed, and no more of ‘ How I think the club should be run’ but “ how can WE can get this club running for the betterment of everybody. That HAS to happen now, there is no time for recriminations and blame, it’s the club first!
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