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Post by Harry Lime on Aug 16, 2018 17:26:48 GMT
Surely there is time enough for the Kiddy game to be switched to there place next Tuesday otherwise um jumping on the conspiracy bandwagon For the Kidderminster game to be switched, the League, both clubs and the local safety advisory group would have to consent. There is no way Kiddy will want to switch the Chester fixture, to which at least 500 will travel on a Saturday, to a Tuesday at 3 days notice which will attract 100 visitors and a reduced home gate. It would knock in my opinion 600 or so off the gate, average £10 a person, plus food etc. They would lose upward of £8000. Sorry no conspiracy, just plain old financials. I would be surprised if the Hereford game went ahead too. Doubt our ground will be ready by then either. Hereford may agree to switch it as it's a bank holiday, rather than a midweek evening game though. However, the reverse game is Saturday 29th December. Usually a decent day for a crowd.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 17:43:20 GMT
I think the club are planning on being ready for the BH fixture
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Post by 54321 on Aug 16, 2018 17:49:35 GMT
We need Claire Sweeney 60-minute make over.
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Post by Harry Lime on Aug 16, 2018 18:10:43 GMT
I think the club are planning on being ready for the BH fixture Great news! It's just that my (admittedly limited) experience of insurance damage suggests a delay in starting remedial work. If that's the case, a week to dry everything out, examine and complete, get safety certificate, and promote the games etc, leaves it tight.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 18:23:52 GMT
I think the club are planning on being ready for the BH fixture Great news! It's just that my (admittedly limited) experience of insurance damage suggests a delay in starting remedial work. If that's the case, a week to dry everything out, examine and complete, get safety certificate, and promote the games etc, leaves it tight. I say planning, I think its more hoping.
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Post by rcb on Aug 16, 2018 20:22:02 GMT
I have also enquired in this regard. Further statement today about electrics, and driers now working, but still no mention of the cause of the flood, or whether it has been repaired. Genuine question but being ignored. I have yet to hear of a leak that has repaired itself. Straightforward communication hoped for, rather than speculative or flippant responses from others equally ill informed. Mate, honestly.....do you need to know everything? The weather was bad, it caused damage, it’s getting sorted by the insurance company.....why do you need the specifics? There is nobody to blame other than Mother Nature and likely Vaughan’s shoddy cowboy builders patching things up over the years. The club have communicated appropriately, they outlined the damage, showed pictures, briefed us on developments as soon as they can. A simple and honest question, but looks to have been twisted into me having a hidden agenda. Them and us yet again. Do I need to know everything? No, I simply asked one small question. How such a simple question can be turned into a forum for speculation and accusation pointed towards the Vaughan’s beggars belief!
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Post by Imperial on Aug 16, 2018 20:29:07 GMT
It’s explained in detail on the podcast.
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Post by Si on Aug 16, 2018 20:31:43 GMT
Mate, honestly.....do you need to know everything? The weather was bad, it caused damage, it’s getting sorted by the insurance company.....why do you need the specifics? There is nobody to blame other than Mother Nature and likely Vaughan’s shoddy cowboy builders patching things up over the years. The club have communicated appropriately, they outlined the damage, showed pictures, briefed us on developments as soon as they can. A simple and honest question, but looks to have been twisted into me having a hidden agenda. Them and us yet again. Do I need to know everything? No, I simply asked one small question. How such a simple question can be turned into a forum for speculation and accusation pointed towards the Vaughan’s beggars belief! You seem really upset that you don’t have the full details of such a mundane thing. Can’t understand why you have been so insistent, that’s why it seems you have an agenda.
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Post by rcb on Aug 16, 2018 20:54:36 GMT
A simple and honest question, but looks to have been twisted into me having a hidden agenda. Them and us yet again. Do I need to know everything? No, I simply asked one small question. How such a simple question can be turned into a forum for speculation and accusation pointed towards the Vaughan’s beggars belief! You seem really upset that you don’t have the full details of such a mundane thing. Can’t understand why you have been so insistent, that’s why it seems you have an agenda. Not in the slightest bit upset, particularly over what was no more than than a simple incidental question. If anything it’s humourous that suck an innocent question can be taken so far out of context. There’s even a stupid comment that such a question reflects having unrealistic expectations for £12. Is that stupid person not aware that this forum is open to all, regardless of whether they have paid membership or not! As it stands, I no longer give a damn what happened.
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Post by sirfred on Aug 16, 2018 21:35:20 GMT
rcb - what are you jabbering on about you seem a Sandwich short of a loaf ?
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Post by Wortleyblue on Aug 16, 2018 21:41:59 GMT
You seem really upset that you don’t have the full details of such a mundane thing. Can’t understand why you have been so insistent, that’s why it seems you have an agenda. Not in the slightest bit upset, particularly over what was no more than than a simple incidental question. If anything it’s humourous that suck an innocent question can be taken so far out of context. There’s even a stupid comment that such a question reflects having unrealistic expectations for £12. Is that stupid person not aware that this forum is open to all, regardless of whether they have paid membership or not! As it stands, I no longer give a damn what happened. Well just to recap there was exceptionally severe weather and the building was flooded, unfortunately this caused extensive damage to the building and the equipment contained therein which has in turn resulted in the club being unable to carry on their normal business in the immediate future until a thorough assessment of the damage has been carried out and the necessary repairs implemented. As you now don't give a damn this post is probably irrelevant but I thought I'd try and give you all the information that is relevant to the situation as it stands
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Post by rjshbdhmtrm on Aug 17, 2018 10:14:11 GMT
We need Claire Sweeney 60-minute make over. Contact Nick Knowles and The DIY SOS Team but for God’s sake keep that toss-pot Llewelyn-Bowen out of the way; that is unless Cleggy fancies ruby coloured velvet drapes with gold braid tie-backs!!!
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Post by paulie on Aug 17, 2018 10:37:58 GMT
I have also enquired in this regard. Further statement today about electrics, and driers now working, but still no mention of the cause of the flood, or whether it has been repaired. Genuine question but being ignored. I have yet to hear of a leak that has repaired itself. Straightforward communication hoped for, rather than speculative or flippant responses from others equally ill informed. Mate, honestly.....do you need to know everything? The weather was bad, it caused damage, it’s getting sorted by the insurance company.....why do you need the specifics? There is nobody to blame other than Mother Nature and likely Vaughan’s shoddy cowboy builders patching things up over the years. The club have communicated appropriately, they outlined the damage, showed pictures, briefed us on developments as soon as they can. Must have been a pretty decent patch up job, it's lasted at least 8 years.
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Post by henry on Aug 17, 2018 11:25:50 GMT
The "botched" repair was carried out in 2003, which unfortunately is outside the 10 year guarantee.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 9:18:16 GMT
Could we be missing a great opportunity here?
I heard on R5Live last night that Norwich City are going to paint their away dressing room in pink because some bright spark reckons it will subdue the away team's adrenaline and aggression thus improving City's chances.
Personally think it's a totally bonkers idea but maybe we could have a variation on this theme. Any ideas out there in DC land as part of the forthcoming refurb?
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Post by uptheseals on Aug 21, 2018 13:17:38 GMT
Club have just tweeted that the ticket office is now back open so hopefully everything's sorted now
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Post by rcb on Aug 21, 2018 16:40:24 GMT
I have read all that the club has communicated in respect of the flood, insurance assessments, industrial driers, and electricians. I fully appreciate that to completely restore things to a fully operational level will take some time. I have NOT read of any attempts to render safe and isolate the original damage and take temporary steps to open the ground. Surely this would have been possible in little more than a few days. After all, the pitch and terracing has not suffered any damage. Significant losses are being incurred in many respects, given this extended delay.
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Post by billyw on Aug 21, 2018 17:13:36 GMT
Could we be missing a great opportunity here? I heard on R5Live last night that Norwich City are going to paint their away dressing room in pink because some bright spark reckons it will subdue the away team's adrenaline and aggression thus improving City's chances. Personally think it's a totally bonkers idea but maybe we could have a variation on this theme. Any ideas out there in DC land as part of the forthcoming refurb? Put a lock on the visitors dressing room and don't let them out. We might win a home game then.
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Post by gaz on Aug 21, 2018 18:22:59 GMT
The "botched" repair was carried out in 2003, which unfortunately is outside the 10 year guarantee. botched repair? really! the flood damage was caused when the gutter drain from the main stand which butts against the building over flowed with water as it could not escape. Why didn't it run down the drains ..... the drains were blocked. what blocked the drains? general rubbish and over a dozen footballs .... lack of maintenance cause the problem not a botched repair...... will the insurance cover negligence in the maintenance schedule?... hope so......
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Post by Duck on Aug 21, 2018 19:02:19 GMT
I have NOT read of any attempts to render safe and isolate the original damage and take temporary steps to open the ground. Surely this would have been possible in little more than a few days. After all, the pitch and terracing has not suffered any damage. Significant losses are being incurred in many respects, given this extended delay. Had it been any other stand then I'm sure this would have been done. We could have quite comfortably seen our the season without the West Stand for example. The lack of a PA SYSTEM and CCTV control room are the big problem. They cannot be worked around due to the safety certificate. News that the ticket office is now open again indicates there is some power restored I guess!
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Post by rcb on Aug 21, 2018 19:21:58 GMT
I have NOT read of any attempts to render safe and isolate the original damage and take temporary steps to open the ground. Surely this would have been possible in little more than a few days. After all, the pitch and terracing has not suffered any damage. Significant losses are being incurred in many respects, given this extended delay. Had it been any other stand then I'm sure this would have been done. We could have quite comfortably seen our the season without the West Stand for example. The lack of a PA SYSTEM and CCTV control room are the big problem. They cannot be worked around due to the safety certificate. News that the ticket office is now open again indicates there is some power restored I guess! We don’t need a permanent power supply! One generator van will power all that is needed. They can transform a farmer’s field at Glastonbury with generator vans, PA systems, and all forms of security including CCTV, gain safety certificates, and put on one of the worlds biggest music festivals - all temporary, so why can’t we sort out a temporary fix for an insignificant little stadium in the sixth tier of English football?
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Post by sirfred on Aug 21, 2018 21:26:39 GMT
Have to agree with you there rcb
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Post by Al on Aug 21, 2018 21:47:00 GMT
You're both missing the point here that club needs a working PA and CCTV and Control Room system in place and signed off by the SAG to be given a license to host these games. It's not JUST about having power down the ground.
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Post by Duck on Aug 22, 2018 7:04:41 GMT
You're both missing the point here that club needs a working PA and CCTV and Control Room system in place and signed off by the SAG to be given a license to host these games. It's not JUST about having power down the ground. This. I would assume/hope that the temporary alternatives have been looked into by the club and deemed inefficient by the licensing authority. Quite why that would be however when Glastonbury etc can go ahead is indeed a bit strange, but surely it hasn't happened for a reason.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 7:36:30 GMT
I can't believe that this post is still live .do people not remember when we won conf north .it was a bad winter and we got nearly all our home games on because we had pitch covers.a lot of clubs lost a lot of games and the chance to keep up with us .never heard any conspiracy comments then .
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Post by bluetartan on Aug 22, 2018 7:44:48 GMT
You're both missing the point here that club needs a working PA and CCTV and Control Room system in place and signed off by the SAG to be given a license to host these games. It's not JUST about having power down the ground. Exactly Al, it’s really not rocket science, significant damage has occurred to this part of the stadium has been communicated numerous times
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Post by rcb on Aug 22, 2018 8:24:51 GMT
You're both missing the point here that club needs a working PA and CCTV and Control Room system in place and signed off by the SAG to be given a license to host these games. It's not JUST about having power down the ground. Exactly Al, it’s really not rocket science, significant damage has occurred to this part of the stadium has been communicated numerous times Unfortunately it is you two rocket scientists that are missing the point. As the point is so clear and obvious I do suspect you are missing the point intentionally. Please look up the word TEMPORARY if it compromises your thinking. No one is disputing that a permanent repair will take time, but simply noting that nothing has been communicated in regard to any attempt at a temporary set up to get games on until the permanent repair is complete.
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Post by bluetartan on Aug 22, 2018 8:53:06 GMT
Exactly Al, it’s really not rocket science, significant damage has occurred to this part of the stadium has been communicated numerous times Unfortunately it is you two rocket scientists that are missing the point. As the point is so clear and obvious I do suspect you are missing the point intentionally. Please look up the word TEMPORARY if it compromises your thinking. No one is disputing that a permanent repair will take time, but simply noting that nothing has been communicated in regard to any attempt at a temporary set up to get games on until the permanent repair is complete. Because I would suppose that there is no further need to put in TEMPORARY infrastructure or plans or re arrange games with no home games until 8th September and hopefully the repairs will have been completed. If this is not the case I’m certain that the board will communicate to us all if the repairs will not be comple again not rocket science. I’m not missing anything intentionally, I’m obviously not as needy as you
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Post by rcb on Aug 22, 2018 9:07:20 GMT
Unfortunately it is you two rocket scientists that are missing the point. As the point is so clear and obvious I do suspect you are missing the point intentionally. Please look up the word TEMPORARY if it compromises your thinking. No one is disputing that a permanent repair will take time, but simply noting that nothing has been communicated in regard to any attempt at a temporary set up to get games on until the permanent repair is complete. Because I would suppose that there is no further need to put in TEMPORARY infrastructure or plans or re arrange games with no home games until 8th September and hopefully the repairs will have been completed. If this is not the case I’m certain that the board will communicate to us all if the repairs will not be comple again not rocket science. I’m not missing anything intentionally, I’m obviously not as needy as you I refer to the three lost home fixture, FC United, Kidderminster, and Hereford, as well you know.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 10:44:06 GMT
Because I would suppose that there is no further need to put in TEMPORARY infrastructure or plans or re arrange games with no home games until 8th September and hopefully the repairs will have been completed. If this is not the case I’m certain that the board will communicate to us all if the repairs will not be comple again not rocket science. I’m not missing anything intentionally, I’m obviously not as needy as you I refer to the three lost home fixture, FC United, Kidderminster, and Hereford, as well you know. I do wish you lads would stop arguing on here. I think we can all agree that the board were remiss in not ringing Michael Eavis and asking him how he does crowd control on the Pyramid Stage can't we? Banks out.
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