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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 12:29:03 GMT
I think Mike has stated in another thread that the club train on the Deva twice a week, except game weeks where the session proceeding a game is on a 3g. When they are on the Deva there is no excuse for not training the full 2 hrs. The club used to use the Uni 3g when needed but it would appear that relationship has soured? I know that the Academy have a good relationship with both the Rugby Club and Christleton High school where the 3g pitches are good. The management have chosen to use somewhere nearer to (or in) Manchester though I believe in the past. If they only train for 1 hour that is a facility issue, and they chose the facility. It really isn't an excuse, and shouldn't be turned on the club. Where did they train when they were at Ramsbottom? Unfortunately it appears we have several players made of porcelain, others who are retirement ready and some who just can't be arsed. As it was with Bignot and McCarthy, managers get paid to manage. It is down to Anthony and Bernard to revive the fortunes of their squad, as currently they seem to be going through the motions. That is the one thing we were promised that their teams would never do. Time to earn their money and keep those reputations intact. Whilst injuries are a problem, it is very noticeable that the issues we have had are down to losing Stopforth, yet aside from someone who has come in to play for free once, they have done nothing to address that? Signing more wingers and strikers will not cover up the fact we are very static in the middle. Would I sack them? No. Am I questioning their ability? Not yet. I am wondering how they are going to get us out of this situation though, as we are tumbling from the play offs, and are regularly getting battered away from home. FACTS- They train at the ground on a Tuesday night for as long as they want/need! They train on a Thursday (pre-match) for 1 hour (club pays it) on a 5 aside pitch! FACTS! Keep your wig on Ian. The first team train twice a week on the pitch when no games are on at the weekend, for 2 hours I believe. So why do they only book the one hour on a Thursday when Deva not available? And why is it in Manchester, when we are a Chester club? Maybe the answer is to run a morning session at Saughall on a weekday also for the players who are available, as it is free, in good nick and the club have an agreement to use when required. Everyone is paid enough for this to work, and those with day jobs can do their work at night on their own? What is currently being done is not working. We have far too many injuries, concede far too many goals and are losing far too many football matches. FACT. How would you put it right?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 12:36:47 GMT
FACTS- They train at the ground on a Tuesday night for as long as they want/need! They train on a Thursday (pre-match) for 1 hour (club pays it) on a 5 aside pitch! FACTS! Keep your wig on Ian. The first team train twice a week on the pitch when no games are on at the weekend, for 2 hours I believe. So why do they only book the one hour on a Thursday when Deva not available? And why is it in Manchester, when we are a Chester club? Maybe the answer is to run a morning session at Saughall on a weekday also for the players who are available, as it is free, in good nick and the club have an agreement to use when required. Everyone is paid enough for this to work, and those with day jobs can do their work at night on their own? What is currently being done is not working. We have far too many injuries, concede far too many goals and are losing far too many football matches. FACT. How would you put it right? But it was working two months ago wasn’t it? Here’s the reason it’s gone down hill. Stopforth McAllister Jackson McKenna Green Hughes - - - > All injured Thomson Burton Asante Dudley - - - > All just back from injuries Waters Waring - - - > Not played for a long time That’s 12 TWELVE players that are injured or not match fit. The remaining players are Livesey, Howson, Roberts and Mahon who are playing every minute of every game. The above is the context why results and performances haven’t been right. Wether people ignore them or just front care then fair enough but they’re FACTS! Training has been on a Thursday night since Xmas, one hour. It’s just how it is as the Groundsman has already said the pitch is taking too much of a pounding!
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Post by billyw on Feb 12, 2019 12:44:58 GMT
Jeez, these comments about our training schedules and limitations are difficult to read and frankly embarrassing, as they make us look like a Sunday league team.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 13:19:51 GMT
Keep your wig on Ian. The first team train twice a week on the pitch when no games are on at the weekend, for 2 hours I believe. So why do they only book the one hour on a Thursday when Deva not available? And why is it in Manchester, when we are a Chester club? Maybe the answer is to run a morning session at Saughall on a weekday also for the players who are available, as it is free, in good nick and the club have an agreement to use when required. Everyone is paid enough for this to work, and those with day jobs can do their work at night on their own? What is currently being done is not working. We have far too many injuries, concede far too many goals and are losing far too many football matches. FACT. How would you put it right? But it was working two months ago wasn’t it? Here’s the reason it’s gone down hill. Stopforth McAllister Jackson McKenna Green Hughes - - - > All injured Thomson Burton Asante Dudley - - - > All just back from injuries Waters Waring - - - > Not played for a long time That’s 12 TWELVE players that are injured or not match fit. The remaining players are Livesey, Howson, Roberts and Mahon who are playing every minute of every game. The above is the context why results and performances haven’t been right. Wether people ignore them or just front care then fair enough but they’re FACTS! Training has been on a Thursday night since Xmas, one hour. It’s just how it is as the Groundsman has already said the pitch is taking too much of a pounding! As for injuries, only the losses of Stopforth and Dudley affected results from 2 months back. Asante, McKenna, Jackson, McAllister, Green either hadn't signed, or hadn't played up to two months back, and Hughes and Burton only played a couple of games before getting injured. Club appears to have backed the managers in transfer / frees, as can be seen from the several new faces brought in recently. So why didn't the new faces, brought in to replace those injured, improve the team or results? As for the training, how come they only book one hour a week? You seem to be VERY close to them, could you ask them if the club are refusing to pay another £40 an hour? Because if so, that is ridiculous and the board can be challenged. Or was this just another excuse for another abject performance? It is ok being gutted every week, and then make jokes about losing your job on social media, but things need to improve. Maybe the suggestion of an extra daytime training session that you chose to ignore would help?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 13:30:19 GMT
But it was working two months ago wasn’t it? Here’s the reason it’s gone down hill. Stopforth McAllister Jackson McKenna Green Hughes - - - > All injured Thomson Burton Asante Dudley - - - > All just back from injuries Waters Waring - - - > Not played for a long time That’s 12 TWELVE players that are injured or not match fit. The remaining players are Livesey, Howson, Roberts and Mahon who are playing every minute of every game. The above is the context why results and performances haven’t been right. Wether people ignore them or just front care then fair enough but they’re FACTS! Training has been on a Thursday night since Xmas, one hour. It’s just how it is as the Groundsman has already said the pitch is taking too much of a pounding! As for injuries, only the losses of Stopforth and Dudley affected results from 2 months back. Asante, McKenna, Jackson, McAllister, Green either hadn't signed, or hadn't played up to two months back, and Hughes and Burton only played a couple of games before getting injured. Club appears to have backed the managers in transfer / frees, as can be seen from the several new faces brought in recently. So why didn't the new faces, brought in to replace those injured, improve the team or results? As for the training, how come they only book one hour a week? You seem to be VERY close to them, could you ask them if the club are refusing to pay another £40 an hour? Because if so, that is ridiculous and the board can be challenged. Or was this just another excuse for another abject performance? It is ok being gutted every week, and then make jokes about losing your job on social media, but things need to improve. Maybe the suggestion of an extra daytime training session that you chose to ignore would help? I’ve listened to interviews, Dave Powell and the groundsman all explaining the training issues! Maybe an hour is all that can be booked? Recruitment was based on part time football, so how can a day time training session now be put in? 2 months ago McAllister, jackson, McKenna and Waring weren’t even here but Pritchard, Smalley, Jordan, Moran all were, they’ve been replaced but their replacements have picked up injuries since. Wasn’t there a piece on here somewhere explaining that the team/squad has been assembled within agreed budget at the start of season, if so not sure what’s meant by being backed when actually whatever’s come in has meant players have gone out or at least that’s how it looks with the departures and incomings.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 13:40:13 GMT
As for injuries, only the losses of Stopforth and Dudley affected results from 2 months back. Asante, McKenna, Jackson, McAllister, Green either hadn't signed, or hadn't played up to two months back, and Hughes and Burton only played a couple of games before getting injured. Club appears to have backed the managers in transfer / frees, as can be seen from the several new faces brought in recently. So why didn't the new faces, brought in to replace those injured, improve the team or results? As for the training, how come they only book one hour a week? You seem to be VERY close to them, could you ask them if the club are refusing to pay another £40 an hour? Because if so, that is ridiculous and the board can be challenged. Or was this just another excuse for another abject performance? It is ok being gutted every week, and then make jokes about losing your job on social media, but things need to improve. Maybe the suggestion of an extra daytime training session that you chose to ignore would help? I’ve listened to interviews, Dave Powell and the groundsman all explaining the training issues! Maybe an hour is all that can be booked? Recruitment was based on part time football, so how can a day time training session now be put in? 2 months ago McAllister, jackson, McKenna and Waring weren’t even here but Pritchard, Smalley, Jordan, Moran all were, they’ve been replaced but their replacements have picked up injuries since. Wasn’t there a piece on here somewhere explaining that the team/squad has been assembled within agreed budget at the start of season, if so not sure what’s meant by being backed when actually whatever’s come in has meant players have gone out or at least that’s how it looks with the departures and incomings. All those players named above who left were lower end budget players, who turned out to perform as such. I also think the George Green signing was a big mistake, but that is for another thread. The budget has been increased using the promise of a donators money to make those signings to improve the squad and as I put above have not done so. Some also appear to be injury prone. Worrying from a recruitment perspective? As for footballers working, even at lower levels than this a lot of players live on their football earnings, so if the opportunity of daytime training is there they may take it. I know some of the young lads (Thompson is one) attend some of the scholars sessions for fitness and sharpness. The facility is there. I am sure the managers want more time with the players, maybe asking who would be able to attend may help. I am just trying to float ideas that may work better than signing more and more players.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 13:47:22 GMT
I’ve listened to interviews, Dave Powell and the groundsman all explaining the training issues! Maybe an hour is all that can be booked? Recruitment was based on part time football, so how can a day time training session now be put in? 2 months ago McAllister, jackson, McKenna and Waring weren’t even here but Pritchard, Smalley, Jordan, Moran all were, they’ve been replaced but their replacements have picked up injuries since. Wasn’t there a piece on here somewhere explaining that the team/squad has been assembled within agreed budget at the start of season, if so not sure what’s meant by being backed when actually whatever’s come in has meant players have gone out or at least that’s how it looks with the departures and incomings. All those players named above who left were lower end budget players, who turned out to perform as such. I also think the George Green signing was a big mistake, but that is for another thread. The budget has been increased using the promise of a donators money to make those signings to improve the squad and as I put above have not done so. Some also appear to be injury prone. Worrying from a recruitment perspective? As for footballers working, even at lower levels than this a lot of players live on their football earnings, so if the opportunity of daytime training is there they may take it. I know some of the young lads (Thompson is one) attend some of the scholars sessions for fitness and sharpness. The facility is there. I am sure the managers want more time with the players, maybe asking who would be able to attend may help. I am just trying to float ideas that may work better than signing more and more players. That’s what the hybrid model discussion is about though surely? From what I can get her the only player any donation has gone towards is Asante the other players are like for like swipes I’d assume in terms of wages except McAllister who doesn’t draw a wage due to budget restraints. The run poor run has coincided with a mass of injuries, this much is obvious. Added to that the training facilities not being what’s needed and there’s plenty of reason as to why the run has happened. That’s not to say nobody is exempt from criticism or should be questioned but surely the answers are slapping everyone right in the face!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 13:57:49 GMT
All those players named above who left were lower end budget players, who turned out to perform as such. I also think the George Green signing was a big mistake, but that is for another thread. The budget has been increased using the promise of a donators money to make those signings to improve the squad and as I put above have not done so. Some also appear to be injury prone. Worrying from a recruitment perspective? As for footballers working, even at lower levels than this a lot of players live on their football earnings, so if the opportunity of daytime training is there they may take it. I know some of the young lads (Thompson is one) attend some of the scholars sessions for fitness and sharpness. The facility is there. I am sure the managers want more time with the players, maybe asking who would be able to attend may help. I am just trying to float ideas that may work better than signing more and more players. That’s what the hybrid model discussion is about though surely? From what I can get her the only player any donation has gone towards is Asante the other players are like for like swipes I’d assume in terms of wages except McAllister who doesn’t draw a wage due to budget restraints. The run poor run has coincided with a mass of injuries, this much is obvious. Added to that the training facilities not being what’s needed and there’s plenty of reason as to why the run has happened. That’s not to say nobody is exempt from criticism or should be questioned but surely the answers are slapping everyone right in the face! I go back to my point. Injuries are bad. We all know that. But the majority of those injured have joined us after our bad run commenced (post Telford). We have not replaced the biggest loss. We have brought in wingers, forwards etc, but the glaring problem is Stopforth. In my opinion this has been poor recruitment. As regards training facilities, this wasn't mentioned back in November when we were winning games. The situation is not ideal, but I have suggested a possible solution. The other solution is to visit with some of the decision makers at the facilities in Chester to secure a block booking for the 2 hours. Training in Manchester on a 5 a side pitch for 1 hour is Sunday league. Mind you, so have some of our performances been
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Post by avfo on Feb 20, 2019 12:38:24 GMT
Anthony Johnson - "It's nowhere near what the previous injury was and Akwasi has had a scan on it and it has shown that it is a minor grade one tear, which is pretty much the lowest it can be, He's played a few games in quick succession after his injury so we just have to be mindful about how we manage him because he is obviously a big player for us and we'll assess him before the weekend and the Blyth game". www.cheshire-live.co.uk/sport/football/chester-fc-co-boss-anthony-15857844
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Post by Grimreaper on Feb 20, 2019 16:56:31 GMT
I’ve listened to interviews, Dave Powell and the groundsman all explaining the training issues! Maybe an hour is all that can be booked? Recruitment was based on part time football, so how can a day time training session now be put in? 2 months ago McAllister, jackson, McKenna and Waring weren’t even here but Pritchard, Smalley, Jordan, Moran all were, they’ve been replaced but their replacements have picked up injuries since. Wasn’t there a piece on here somewhere explaining that the team/squad has been assembled within agreed budget at the start of season, if so not sure what’s meant by being backed when actually whatever’s come in has meant players have gone out or at least that’s how it looks with the departures and incomings. All those players named above who left were lower end budget players, who turned out to perform as such. I also think the George Green signing was a big mistake, but that is for another thread. The budget has been increased using the promise of a donators money to make those signings to improve the squad and as I put above have not done so. Some also appear to be injury prone. Worrying from a recruitment perspective? As for footballers working, even at lower levels than this a lot of players live on their football earnings, so if the opportunity of daytime training is there they may take it. I know some of the young lads (Thompson is one) attend some of the scholars sessions for fitness and sharpness. The facility is there. I am sure the managers want more time with the players, maybe asking who would be able to attend may help. I am just trying to float ideas that may work better than signing more and more players.
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Post by Grimreaper on Feb 20, 2019 17:07:21 GMT
Thought |I would just add a bit of insight to Asantes Training Schedule. Akwasi Trains everyday back at his home in the midlands. He came from a full time back ground at Birmingham City, works to a set programme so whether the club is part time he will do full time training. I was told that the training is held in Manchester because most of the players reside there. Akwasi commutes every Tuesday & Thursday from the midlands for training which takes him 1hr 30mins travelling time, more than the training I believe.
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Post by bazza on Feb 20, 2019 19:56:04 GMT
We are now back at the deva for training tuesdays and thursdays roll on end of season been a tough one this trying to keep the grass coverage pitch been used 65 times now !!! Fingers crossed we get in play offs and have a good go . Up the seals !
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Post by johny9 on Feb 20, 2019 20:09:39 GMT
Doing a cracking job bazza
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Post by bazza on Feb 20, 2019 20:17:45 GMT
Thanks mate just got to keep going get through rest of season best can now pitch starting to look a bit tired but its lasted well.only want the best for everyone come 3pm on a sat we will get there am sure
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Post by avfo on Feb 21, 2019 12:07:03 GMT
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