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Post by durdy on Jan 19, 2019 17:27:08 GMT
Need a striker ASAP or we won’t make the play offs. We have one that we forked a lot of money out on.......but he injured 🙄 and likely to be for some time as we seem set to be bringing another in next week , what happens when everyone's fit ??
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Post by btb on Jan 19, 2019 17:37:17 GMT
Well that was a great pile of steaming dog poo. Terrible. Woeful. Dreadful. And I’m off to drink a load of jaegers and forget all about it.
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Post by tarvinblue on Jan 19, 2019 17:40:34 GMT
Wasn't our world meant to change when George Green became fit? Bang average from the four times I've seen him and a liability in terms of attitude. We had lots of the ball but no cutting edge - been the same story for weeks. Zero physical presence in the final third and a lack of final ball. We were scoring goals before Asante came so what's changed? He's only played 3 games for us! We need a striker desperately and we need Mahon and Mooney dropping as neither has offered anything for weeks. Mahon's performance was summed up by his shot that went out for a throw in. Thought Livesey played well and Bradley Jackson ran all afternoon long but had little support. Didn't see that McKenna offered anything more than what we already have. Very frustrating.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 17:41:18 GMT
Very poor we badly miss Dudley Stopforth and Asante
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Post by loskasleftfoot on Jan 19, 2019 17:55:56 GMT
Another inept performance from our 2 wingers mahon and Mooney sorry both need dropping Roberts anonymous again livesy howson both had shockers not just a striker need a whole team Roberts was Mom by a mile last week so your comment is harsh bordering on daft
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Post by MPW on Jan 19, 2019 18:00:32 GMT
How bloody predictable are we? Although injuries are definitely taking its toll in the striking department, our shooting is woeful and we had no plan B at all. 3 goals in our last 6 games says it all really!
I do feel that starting with 3 wingers today was a big mistake. Mahon and Mooney both needed dropping and would be a better option to bring off the bench if needed. You also have to wonder why we are keeping Smalley if he only gets a few minutes towards at the end of a game like today when we are desperate for strikers.
The jury is still out on Green for me, we were told to expect big things from him but I’ve not seen anything to suggest why! I’m also not sure why he feels the need to continually dish out abuse at officials which is why I think he got booked for it again. He need to reign it in otherwise he’ll be suspended more than he plays.
It’s been a long time since we’ve seen a convincing win, especially at home, but it’s worth noting that Curzon Ashton have equal best away record with Chorley and Spennymoor (25 points), so whilst they looked pretty average today, they do have a very good away record.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jan 19, 2019 18:02:37 GMT
We wouldnt have scored had we played all night. If you miss your chances, it can come back to haunt you. Green and Mckeena look no better than what we have Mooney started well then faded. Lloyd Marsh Hughes did ok up front and set up some good chances, but with Asente Dudley and Hughes injured. It really is asking a lot to expect a 17 year old to play up front, on his own.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 18:06:54 GMT
We can all analyse ad nauseum and cite injuries, match fitness, players out of position etc etc etc but, for a (supposedly) promotion chasing side, we were simply not good enough to overcome yet another bang average side whose game plan was incredibly simple - absorb pressure and hit us on the break
We looked what we are at the moment, an upper mid-table team that, obviously, won't go down but, equally, are not likely to be competing in the playoffs come the end of the season unless we rediscover what we had in the autumn. Of course we're still, at the moment, up there, but as I said after last week, other teams are picking up wins whilst we are beginning to struggle.
Of course, it could all change quickly and I hope it does but I'm beginning to form the impression that we are slowly slipping out of contention, especially as we're almost in February
We badly need a stimulus whether from the managers' actions or elsewhere. If we can do this, then we may still yet push on. Of course, I'll still be there willing us to succeed but I suspect, for some, their patience is being stretched as evidenced by the flat atmosphere today in the second half as we ran out of ideas
Overall a disappointing day which, regrettably, is becoming a bit too frequent
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Post by billyw on Jan 19, 2019 18:22:03 GMT
Certainly thought we’d do a bit better than one point from these two home games. Just seems like this abnormal injury situation is really taking its toll. I know we have injuries but we can't keep trotting that out as an excuse. The players out there today should have had enough about them to demolish a team like Curzon Ashton. Another abysmal performance.
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Post by jb on Jan 19, 2019 18:25:31 GMT
Joke stuff. Send Mooney, McAllister and Smalley on their way. That was a real low today. Disjointed, weak and a shambles. We lost to a factory team. Rubbish!
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Post by Anders on Jan 19, 2019 18:36:19 GMT
Joke stuff. Send Mooney, McAllister and Smalley on their way. That was a real low today. Disjointed, weak and a shambles. We lost to a factory team. Rubbish! McAllister was the best player on the pitch by an absolute distance.
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Jan 19, 2019 18:43:40 GMT
Unless the injury situation clears up quickly we are absolutely nailed on to drop out of play-off contention.
To be fair, we've been unlucky with who has been injured and for how long - it would have taken it's toll on any squad in this league not just us.
One goal in the last three home games is a very telling return though.
Part of me is already starting to think about next season as daft as it sounds. I don't mean it negatively mind, I do think the managers have us on the right track for a very strong campaign.
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Post by billyw on Jan 19, 2019 18:52:45 GMT
Joke stuff. Send Mooney, McAllister and Smalley on their way. That was a real low today. Disjointed, weak and a shambles. We lost to a factory team. Rubbish! McAllister was the best player on the pitch by an absolute distance. Agreed. It was clear to see which player on that pitch had played at a much higher level than the rest.
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Post by jb on Jan 19, 2019 19:05:12 GMT
Joke stuff. Send Mooney, McAllister and Smalley on their way. That was a real low today. Disjointed, weak and a shambles. We lost to a factory team. Rubbish! McAllister was the best player on the pitch by an absolute distance. Had about six touches all game. Forgot he was playing second half.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Jan 19, 2019 19:07:44 GMT
In all fairness I actually thought we didn’t play too badly this afternoon, but to lose against sides like Curzon Ashton simply is not good enough. Looking at the stats we had 6 shots on target and 11 off. Even with our injury problems we have no excuses to not find the net given the vast amount of chances we had. It was just one of those days as a decent-ish showing was undone by a smash and grab goal on the counter attack which deflated us.
We played well in the first half as we caused Curzon Ashton a number of problems. Just minutes into the game we were a lick of paint away from going in front as an unexpected 40-yard hit by Dan Mooney hit the bar which would’ve been a brilliant goal. A flurry of other chances came to us as both Danny Livesey and Steve Howson headed over, whilst Ben McKenna fired over the bar. Curzon began to get into it as they had a few spells themselves, but on the whole we were by far the more effective side in the first half.
We just didn’t really get going in the second half which foreshadowed the end outcome. I’d say we didn’t play too badly, but the longer we went through the game still searching for the opener the likelier it was we were going to concede against the run of play. Curzon were lucky on a couple of occasions as we were close to breaking the deadlock on the 50th minute mark as Mo Ali was unfortunate to not have scored an own goal from a Dan Mooney cross, whilst a Simon Grand header was cleared off the line. A powerful Brad Jackson hit just went over, but in frustrating fashion Curzon Ashton went 1-0 up as Oliver Crankshaw tapped in following poor man-marking. George Green fired wide, but at that time we seemed very dejected and never got going again. Performance-wise I thought Jackson did well again today, as did Ben McKenna who looked good on the attack on his debut. Sean McAllister was brilliant today and showed to us why he has had a good career. Other than that only Lloyd Marsh-Hughes stood out who held the ball up well and got into some good positions on his return. Dan Mooney was ineffective in my opinion and seemed to be a bit lethargic, which is a shame after a promising first half of the season.
A disappointing result today, and things won’t get easier for us as we face high-flying Spennymoor Town away next Saturday in the dreaded North East. As a club we must all keep the faith as there is a long way to go yet, which is why I will be travelling up as ever next week. Our next home match is actually in 4 weeks time which is a while away, although I’m sure our pitch will be able to cope with a long lay-off, especially a new mower donated to Mike. Let’s keep the faith.
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Post by Anders on Jan 19, 2019 19:10:46 GMT
McAllister was the best player on the pitch by an absolute distance. Had about six touches all game. Forgot he was playing second half. You weren't watching him then. The only player on the pitch whose decision making was spot on, can see why he’s had a good career in the football league.
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Post by tonya on Jan 19, 2019 19:13:58 GMT
Need a striker ASAP or we won’t make the play offs. Nothing really but since nothing was going on on the thread and my heart was at the Deva it seemed harmless.However on a more relevant note it would seem that we are pretty poor judging by reports and would struggle against the teams I saw today. Bath had a loan of a centre forward from Bristol City who was excellent scoring yet again for them. Can we not do a similar clever move? We sadly seem to only have the playoffs to concentrate on now,which we all know is a lottery!
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Post by MPW on Jan 19, 2019 19:19:00 GMT
Bringing in a striker has got to be a priority, which it should have been last week. Even if that means letting Smalley go!
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Post by 54321 on Jan 19, 2019 19:23:55 GMT
McAllister was the best player on the pitch by an absolute distance. Agreed. It was clear to see which player on that pitch had played at a much higher level than the rest. To be fair the effort was outstanding but quality of decision making was poor I.E pass shoot or cross
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Post by toomanypundits on Jan 19, 2019 19:25:43 GMT
Another inept performance from our 2 wingers mahon and Mooney sorry both need dropping Roberts anonymous again livesy howson both had shockers not just a striker need a whole team Roberts was Mom by a mile last week so your comment is harsh bordering on daft
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Post by Lobster on Jan 19, 2019 19:29:42 GMT
Certainly thought we’d do a bit better than one point from these two home games. Just seems like this abnormal injury situation is really taking its toll. I know we have injuries but we can't keep trotting that out as an excuse. The players out there today should have had enough about them to demolish a team like Curzon Ashton. Another abysmal performance. To be fair to Curzon they’ve won four in a row now. This probably sounds very harsh, but I think the reality is that the standard at this level is so poor, it only takes one player to look like he’s had his Shredded Wheat and it can be the difference between an easy win and a dismal defeat. Asante is the obvious example but also Mahon - it seems like when he plays well, we play well.
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Post by toomanypundits on Jan 19, 2019 19:30:43 GMT
Joke stuff. Send Mooney, McAllister and Smalley on their way. That was a real low today. Disjointed, weak and a shambles. We lost to a factory team. Rubbish! Irony is we should have been 3up by halftime, your probably the idiot that was shouting obscenities at the players through out the game
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Post by jb on Jan 19, 2019 19:40:57 GMT
Joke stuff. Send Mooney, McAllister and Smalley on their way. That was a real low today. Disjointed, weak and a shambles. We lost to a factory team. Rubbish! Irony is we should have been 3up by halftime, your probably the idiot that was shouting obscenities at the players through out the game Nope sat there with my head in my hands thinking there are a thousand better things to do than watch this crap.
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Post by toomanypundits on Jan 19, 2019 19:46:04 GMT
Irony is we should have been 3up by halftime, your probably the idiot that was shouting obscenities at the players through out the game Nope sat there with my head in my hands thinking there are a thousand better things to do than watch this crap. It's conference north football , from a fan owned club .... it's not football league ..... we are what we are ...
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Post by Sealand Road Veteran on Jan 19, 2019 20:04:42 GMT
Joke stuff. Send Mooney, McAllister and Smalley on their way. That was a real low today. Disjointed, weak and a shambles. We lost to a factory team. Rubbish! Irony is we should have been 3up by halftime, your probably the idiot that was shouting obscenities at the players through out the game Are you on about the bloke in the East stand in F block, he drives me mad every week how the bloke hasn't had a heart attack is a miracle, all he does is moan, he absolutely lambasted Mahon today and constantly criticises the players don't know why he bothers coming, I'm going to end up saying something to him soon does my fookin head in, we are in the conference North not the fookin premiership. we are not going to or are we entitled to think we should win every game, get over it must have been some player in his day 😉
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Post by jabber on Jan 19, 2019 20:05:14 GMT
Didn't think it was crap , just frustrating in the last third, we had loads of chances but didn't take them so it's not all doom n gloom. I'm not too worried and expected this as new managers , new team and it will take a bit of time. They will sort it out eventually as they have in the past. Maybe we expect too much unless someone has a magic wand?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 20:11:47 GMT
Irony is we should have been 3up by halftime, your probably the idiot that was shouting obscenities at the players through out the game Are you on about the bloke in the East stand in F block, he drives me mad every week how the bloke hasn't had a heart attack is a miracle, all he does is moan, he absolutely lambasted Mahon today and constantly criticises the players don't know why he bothers coming, I'm going to end up saying something to him soon does my fookin head in, we are in the conference North not the fookin premiership. we are not going to or are we entitled to think we should win every game, get over it must have been some player in his day 😉 Yeah he's near me to moan moan moan even if we are winning he finds something to whinge about
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Post by Si on Jan 19, 2019 20:31:08 GMT
To play a 17 year old lad by himself up front you need bodies in and around him but it just didn’t happen. I never felt like Mahon and Mooney had anywhere to go when they got the ball and LMH isn’t mature enough to play the lone role yet. Judging by the line up then I’m guessing that getting Mahon, Mooney and McKenna playing close to LMH was the plan and the early signs were good but without getting the early goal we got progressively slower in the build up and Curzon Ashton grew in confidence that we couldn’t hurt them. I felt like the managers could have used the subs better, I’m not sure we needed two holding midfielders in a game like that, I’d like to have seen McCallister sacrificed for Murray to play just behind, especially as he is more attuned to the runs LMH makes.
Credit to Curzon though, they were there for the taking but they stayed in the game and hit us on the counter. Classic smash and grab. Back to the drawing board for us and we must find a way to look threatening without Asante otherwise this season will peter out and the play offs will be out of reach. No doubt injuries have cost us, but we can still manage better than what was in offer today surely.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 20:40:31 GMT
We miss Stopforth so much. He sets our tempo. We haven't played that well since he got injured.
I'd look to play Jackson further up the pitch with Thompson at full back next week, maybe even the same with Waters LB and McKenna LW. Give Mahon and Mooney a rest which with Blyth being off would be a couple of weeks.
I'd have took top half back in June, and am reticent to criticise because the effort cannot be faulted. I can handle a lack of finesse (Howson, Grand) because they genuinely leave nothing on the pitch. But if we want to progress we will need to raise our income to recruit more quality because currently half of our long defensive passes end up in the seats.
#UTFS
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Post by MPW on Jan 19, 2019 21:26:11 GMT
Anyone know why Morley has a touchline ban? Was it from the game earlier in the season (Alfreton?) when he appeared to take a swipe at someone after the final whistle.
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