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Post by Si on Sept 6, 2017 14:28:35 GMT
Richard Money isn't a bad shout
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 6, 2017 14:35:48 GMT
My shortlist, in order of who we should contact first.
John Askey - we all know how well he does at Macclesfield, believe he is only on a one year rolling contract so wouldn't be too much compensation. He applied for the Wrexham job so potential for him to leave.
Marcus Bignot - did very well at Solihull with a small budget, recurred good young lower league talent, I.e Omar Bogle, who got them £££. Moved into League 2 at Grimsby, hit his targets for the season and their fans were generally happy with him, however sacked due to issues in the dressing room (?). Plays football suited to this division which would work.
Graham Barrow - being young I'm probably not the best to explain this choice! However he'd definitely be a positive appointment met with a largely delighted fanbase.
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Post by sqzl on Sept 6, 2017 14:35:51 GMT
I don't really fancy anyone returning, especially someone with a reputation like Barrow's with us. He's a legend in most eyes, so to come back and try to mop up a mess could tarnish that if he can't get things done. At the end of the day, we have no wide men, no fit strikers and 1 fit centre back with any experience. Not an easy fix. Easy Tell LRT, Chappell, Joyce, and Davies to find new clubs. They can go for nothing if they get fixed up elsewhere where they can't do us any harm. I'd be tempted to tell Dawson to shape up or ship out as well - really don't see the fascination some have with him at all. We can bring in a centre back with the money brought in from getting shot of LRT, and we can bring in a couple of loan signings - preferably wingers to replace the other 3. We then have the basis of a decent side. If only football was that simple AL. At the end of the day they aren't going to agree to terminating their contracts unless they get a better offer or equal offer elsewhere! Which will never happen on performance value! So we are stuck with these players now, no chance we will mutually agree any release. Loan market for a winger and centre back is a must, and send Sheron back today! Get waters in the bloody squad. Push Halls back to RB and bring in a young CB from our friends Walsall perhaps? or Leicester??? wishful thinking. I'd go for Bignott, but do i think we could afford him, not sure.
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Post by Imperial on Sept 6, 2017 14:44:42 GMT
Easy Tell LRT, Chappell, Joyce, and Davies to find new clubs. They can go for nothing if they get fixed up elsewhere where they can't do us any harm. I'd be tempted to tell Dawson to shape up or ship out as well - really don't see the fascination some have with him at all. We can bring in a centre back with the money brought in from getting shot of LRT, and we can bring in a couple of loan signings - preferably wingers to replace the other 3. We then have the basis of a decent side. If only football was that simple AL. At the end of the day they aren't going to agree to terminating their contracts unless they get a better offer or equal offer elsewhere! Which will never happen on performance value! So we are stuck with these players now, no chance we will mutually agree any release. Loan market for a winger and centre back is a must, and send Sheron back today! Get waters in the bloody squad. Push Halls back to RB and bring in a young CB from our friends Walsall perhaps? or Leicester??? wishful thinking. I'd go for Bignott, but do i think we could afford him, not sure. Why not play Ben Jones at CB?
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Post by thebluecamp on Sept 6, 2017 14:52:00 GMT
Graham Westley? You must be joking. When it comes to narcissistic arrogance he makes McCarthy look like an amateur. Tried to do to Preston what McCarthy tried at Chester. We need someone with total commitment to the club, not themselves. Dead right rcb - can not think of a less likely candidate
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Post by superman on Sept 6, 2017 14:57:31 GMT
Justin Edinburgh worked well at Newport County, a reformed club with a fan ownership model of sorts, although they did have a big lottery winner as chairman for a while which probably helped financially.
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Post by sqzl on Sept 6, 2017 15:09:18 GMT
If only football was that simple AL. At the end of the day they aren't going to agree to terminating their contracts unless they get a better offer or equal offer elsewhere! Which will never happen on performance value! So we are stuck with these players now, no chance we will mutually agree any release. Loan market for a winger and centre back is a must, and send Sheron back today! Get waters in the bloody squad. Push Halls back to RB and bring in a young CB from our friends Walsall perhaps? or Leicester??? wishful thinking. I'd go for Bignott, but do i think we could afford him, not sure. Why not play Ben Jones at CB? No doubt in my mind that he should have started last night, but i still think we should get another CB in on loan given we only have two with any experience plus a youth player. Most sides in this league will have 4 CB's and 3 of those no doubt will have experience at this level and one may be a younger lad.
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Post by Imperial on Sept 6, 2017 15:11:09 GMT
Why not play Ben Jones at CB? No doubt in my mind that he should have started last night, but i still think we should get another CB in on loan given we only have two with any experience plus a youth player. Most sides in this league will have 4 CB's and 3 of those no doubt will have experience at this level and one may be a younger lad. Yeah agree completely.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Sept 6, 2017 15:11:10 GMT
I would pick Garry Hill or Graham Barrow. Dino Maamria isn't a bad shout either.
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Post by sqzl on Sept 6, 2017 15:13:21 GMT
For the amount of so called leaders in our team yesterday, did anyone see any leadership on the pitch? James,Halls,McCombe, Turnbull...all leaders. Turnbull i felt sorry for because he never had a pass on going forward all night. McCombe must be the most silent captain i've ever heard? He didn't play badly, but did anyone even hear him all match, given he had a young kid at right back and a team heavily under-performing. I could hear Turnbull and Halls all game, but nobody had the leadership to grab the game by the scuff and make things happen, too much deadwood in that 11.
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Post by sqzl on Sept 6, 2017 15:15:03 GMT
I would pick Garry Hill or Graham Barrow. Dino Maamria isn't a bad shout either. I think Dino Maamria is a name that has been mentioned in every appointment we've had to make since 1901 to be honest
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Post by gaz on Sept 6, 2017 15:20:08 GMT
ok who voted for gary mills on the TFF non league poll...........
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Post by chesterken on Sept 6, 2017 15:24:01 GMT
My shortlist, in order of who we should contact first. John Askey - we all know how well he does at Macclesfield, believe he is only on a one year rolling contract so wouldn't be too much compensation. He applied for the Wrexham job so potential for him to leave. Marcus Bignot - did very well at Solihull with a small budget, recurred good young lower league talent, I.e Omar Bogle, who got them £££. Moved into League 2 at Grimsby, hit his targets for the season and their fans were generally happy with him, however sacked due to issues in the dressing room (?). Plays football suited to this division which would work. Graham Barrow - being young I'm probably not the best to explain this choice! However he'd definitely be a positive appointment met with a largely delighted fanbase. Afraid it doesn't work like that at our level people will be asked to apply so anyone who is already contracted to another club at this level would not be considered as we could not afford the compensation, it may work at a lower level as some clubs cannot afford long contracts so may agree to an approach from a club higher up the pyramid.
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Post by billyw on Sept 6, 2017 15:34:36 GMT
I think you should go for Kevin wilkin. Don't think he got long enough with us. He's done well before and since being with us. He would probably jump at the chance of going full time again as well. Totally Agree. Has brackley at the top of the NLN against teams like salford,stockport york southport. Was suprised when you let him go, I'd have him all day. +1
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Post by billyw on Sept 6, 2017 15:39:24 GMT
I don't really fancy anyone returning, especially someone with a reputation like Barrow's with us. He's a legend in most eyes, so to come back and try to mop up a mess could tarnish that if he can't get things done. At the end of the day, we have no wide men, no fit strikers and 1 fit centre back with any experience. Not an easy fix. Easy Tell LRT, Chappell, Joyce, and Davies to find new clubs. They can go for nothing if they get fixed up elsewhere where they can't do us any harm. I'd be tempted to tell Dawson to shape up or ship out as well - really don't see the fascination some have with him at all. We can bring in a centre back with the money brought in from getting shot of LRT, and we can bring in a couple of loan signings - preferably wingers to replace the other 3. We then have the basis of a decent side. The priority of a new manager is to get the current squad fit and I don't mean the injured players.
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 6, 2017 15:44:39 GMT
My shortlist, in order of who we should contact first. John Askey - we all know how well he does at Macclesfield, believe he is only on a one year rolling contract so wouldn't be too much compensation. He applied for the Wrexham job so potential for him to leave. Marcus Bignot - did very well at Solihull with a small budget, recurred good young lower league talent, I.e Omar Bogle, who got them £££. Moved into League 2 at Grimsby, hit his targets for the season and their fans were generally happy with him, however sacked due to issues in the dressing room (?). Plays football suited to this division which would work. Graham Barrow - being young I'm probably not the best to explain this choice! However he'd definitely be a positive appointment met with a largely delighted fanbase. I don't think you don't grasp where we are financially after dismissing JM. The compensation for JM could set us back years in terms of growing the budget.
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Post by whopper1 on Sept 6, 2017 15:45:52 GMT
Should of already had a manager lined up, it was obvious mcarthy was gona get the sack soon enough
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Post by Woody on Sept 6, 2017 15:46:10 GMT
I think we have to be realistic here, majority of managers mentioned will be above our budget or compensation payment not affordable. Some great names being banded about but for me the manager that we can realistically afford who will do a sterling job is currently at Flint Town Utd.
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Post by billyw on Sept 6, 2017 15:46:18 GMT
the club are hopeful of appointing a new manager before the maidenhead game with shaw / felgate / mcintyre probably taking the next 3 games That's far too long IMO.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Sept 6, 2017 15:58:13 GMT
Barrow all day long.
Bring back the barrow
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Post by billyw on Sept 6, 2017 16:01:09 GMT
I think you should go for Kevin wilkin. Don't think he got long enough with us. He's done well before and since being with us. He would probably jump at the chance of going full time again as well. I think that's a good shout - How would you compare him with Morrell.
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 6, 2017 16:04:33 GMT
My shortlist, in order of who we should contact first. John Askey - we all know how well he does at Macclesfield, believe he is only on a one year rolling contract so wouldn't be too much compensation. He applied for the Wrexham job so potential for him to leave. Marcus Bignot - did very well at Solihull with a small budget, recurred good young lower league talent, I.e Omar Bogle, who got them £££. Moved into League 2 at Grimsby, hit his targets for the season and their fans were generally happy with him, however sacked due to issues in the dressing room (?). Plays football suited to this division which would work. Graham Barrow - being young I'm probably not the best to explain this choice! However he'd definitely be a positive appointment met with a largely delighted fanbase. I don't think you don't grasp where we are financially after dismissing JM. The compensation for JM could set us back years in terms of growing the budget. Cal Mac for manager then?
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Post by paw2904 on Sept 6, 2017 16:23:49 GMT
Barrow for me. Also he has made his retirement pot from his years at Wigan so he may agree to come for a song and to help the Club he always says he feels close to. No contract. Till the end of the season and then take it from there.
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 6, 2017 16:24:33 GMT
Callum McIntyre is good at what he does which is with the academy. We need someone who has experience at the level we're at.
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Post by superman on Sept 6, 2017 16:33:24 GMT
Successful management teams this level often seem to be a "right fit" of 2 individuals who either know each other well or sometimes just gel. Perhaps McCarthy/Sharps was just one of those duo's, we will never know for sure. The brothers at Grimsby are a good example. In our attempt to become more like a full time professional outfit, including a system throughout the junior teams upto and including the first team, and a seemingly endless list of backroom staff I sometimes think that there is a lack of focus on the nitty gritty of winning first team football matches. How many people does it take to manage such a small squad? Think Callum Mac. should concentrate on what he does well. Too many cooks and all that.
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 6, 2017 16:37:18 GMT
Successful management teams this level often seem to be a "right fit" of 2 individuals who either know each other well or sometimes just gel. Perhaps McCarthy/Sharps was just one of those duo's, we will never know for sure. The brothers at Grimsby are a good example. In our attempt to become more like a full time professional outfit, including a system throughout the junior teams upto and including the first team, and a seemingly endless list of backroom staff I sometimes think that there is a lack of focus on the nitty gritty of winning first team football matches. How many people does it take to manage such a small squad? Think Callum Mac. should concentrate on what he does well. Too many cooks and all that. Don't you mean Lincoln?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 16:39:37 GMT
I think you should go for Kevin wilkin. Don't think he got long enough with us. He's done well before and since being with us. He would probably jump at the chance of going full time again as well. I think that's a good shout - How would you compare him with Morrell. Difficult one to compare. Morrell had our most successful spell since being in this league, but also had an inflated budget compared to those that followed. He also struggled with recruitment. Wilkin inherited an ageing squad that had run its course. But the players he brought in, moult, Jennings, York, Holman were all quality. But he still had some of the previous squad on contracts. In hindsight he should of been given another summer to get his own squad assembled. The only real gripe with wilkin was his very defensive tactics, whether he thought h that was necessary due to the players he inherited, I don't know. He's going great guns at Brackley now though.
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Post by BarntonBen on Sept 6, 2017 16:55:14 GMT
I wonder if Barrow could see this as something bigger than just being a manager.
Having the experience he does he could really help push the club forward not only on the pitch but off it too.
If he was successful and helped firm up the clubs foundation then he could even see himself as a future chairman.
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Post by Jack on Sept 6, 2017 16:57:52 GMT
Difficult one to call and hard to grasp at this stage whether any of the suggested names would be interested.
I think we need to avoid the Shaun Reid route, a passionate man he may be but no managerial experience above Warrington Town. I'm also not keen on the shouts for Ian Sharps, we need something completely fresh.
Realistically, I think Askey is out of the question although I'd love to be wrong. Graham Barrow and Andy Holden would both be popular appointments, but have they up-to-date knowledge about the division?
I think Garry Hill is a good shout if his location doesn't provide an issue, after that I'd be satisfied with Holden or Barrow and think they'd give the place the shot in the arm it needs.
Also, didn't Bignot get the Barrow job only a week ago?
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Post by Jack on Sept 6, 2017 16:59:04 GMT
Wilkin is a great shout too, but he seems to have a good thing going at Brackley. It'd be a risk to leave that and come up here again.
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