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Post by Lobster on Oct 6, 2017 11:44:13 GMT
According to EltonBlues on DC1, the club is losing £3K a week based on current attendances.
I don't want to fan flames or anything but that surely can't continue?
EDIT: it seems like the figure is actually just what we're losing per home game, but it still seems high.
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Post by RonD on Oct 6, 2017 13:33:27 GMT
Not read back through all the postings . . . what has happened to the Sam Hughes money? Simply absorbed into running costs/losses?
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Post by whopper1 on Oct 6, 2017 14:17:58 GMT
How on earth mcarthy was allowed to stay in charge after last season and blow a 450k budget on utter garbage is mind boggling
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Post by Hannibal on Oct 6, 2017 14:39:41 GMT
Calvin Hughes not voted onto board, don't know what people were thinking of, sorry Calvin I voted for you, please don't give up on us, we need all the help we can get Somebody he said he did something really damaging to the club during his last period as a volunteer/director. I won't say what it was, but I didn't vote for him as a consequence. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 14:56:40 GMT
Do tell Hannibal? I would be VERY interested to know who was going around slandering candidates during elections. Was it somebody who works at the club again? Whoever it was, it worked, again. For the record he was never a director, elected or otherwise. His partner, Jane Hipkiss, was.
I worked with Calvin for 4 years at CFC. All I know is he worked tirelessly doing what Tony Allen does now, only better (the Ben Heneghan issue would not have happened under CH) and for free.
As said above, it is a real shame, as the board / we have lost a prospective board member who would have been hard working and conciencious and who had time to commit.
Best of luck for those who got on, delighted that Dave "Fasttoes" Williams got on, top bloke with a lot to offer and by far the best manifesto.
I also hope that some of those who were re-elected can communicate to us a little more, and serve us a little better than they have this past 12 months. |
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Post by Rio Doherty on Oct 6, 2017 15:50:28 GMT
Confirmed at last nights meeting that Marcus Bignot’s contract lasts until the end of the season. If everything goes well for both parties, then he will have an option of extending it.
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Post by MPW on Oct 6, 2017 16:31:20 GMT
Hopefully one of the new candidates will help to improve the marketing of games which is something that must be done.
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Post by Harry Lime on Oct 6, 2017 17:10:04 GMT
According to EltonBlues on DC1, the club is losing £3K a week based on current attendances. I don't want to fan flames or anything but that surely can't continue? EDIT: it seems like the figure is actually just what we're losing per home game, but it still seems high. What was actually said was that we were getting in £3k a game less than the budgeted figure. Makes sense if we get 1500/1600 instead of the 2200(?) budgeted for. They were Ebbsfleet, Maidenhead and Woking though. Hardly a big crowd draw and little away support. |
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Post by Harry Lime on Oct 6, 2017 17:11:59 GMT
Not read back through all the postings . . . what has happened to the Sam Hughes money? Simply absorbed into running costs/losses? First half is shown in last year's figure, and offset the losses. Second half was added to the playing budget for this season. That's mainly why it's up by £80k. |
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Post by Little Blue Boy on Oct 6, 2017 20:20:54 GMT
Found it quite fascinating that as a fan owned community football club we feel it is appropriate to discriminate against away fans by charging them more for tea and coffee.
Laurence and Jonny tried their best to avoid the question on the night.
Agree that it is a shame that Calvin didn't make it on.
Interesting comments by Hannibal, heard the same myself, and its a shame but I think its more likely than not that people at the club/other board members would have been slandering candidates. It's happened before.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 20:23:20 GMT
Again LBB Id be glad to know what was said and by whom?
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Post by Little Blue Boy on Oct 6, 2017 20:51:30 GMT
Again LBB Id be glad to know what was said and by whom? I overheard comments in the main stand similar to what Hannibal has said - I have no idea what it was that Calvin supposedly did. I just think there is form for this sort of thing starting from within and I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was the same again here. |
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Post by embalmer on Oct 6, 2017 20:54:03 GMT
Have to agree about the tea/coffee situation. It really was deeply embarrassing to sit there with the room aghast as the chairman and finance director tried to laugh it off / brush it under the carpet. Utterly unprofessional and cringeworthy.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Oct 6, 2017 22:03:21 GMT
I missed the meeting last night due to other commitments can anybody point me in the direction of a link to what was said/discussed or perhaps even post a summary on here for me and others to read.
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Post by avfo on Oct 6, 2017 22:32:52 GMT
I missed the meeting last night due to other commitments can anybody point me in the direction of a link to what was said/discussed or perhaps even post a summary on here for me and others to read. 11th post down for a brief summary of some key points |
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Oct 6, 2017 22:48:29 GMT
Thanks avfo I’ve just read the summary. It seems like we could do with getting 2100-2200 Home gates ASAP then?
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Post by avfo on Oct 6, 2017 23:23:25 GMT
Thanks avfo I’ve just read the summary. It seems like we could do with getting 2100-2200 Home gates ASAP then? Cup runs do help (just ask FCUM), failing that assuming the increased support would consist of mainly pay on the day punters then yes, somewhere around 2100. |
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Oct 6, 2017 23:44:26 GMT
As I and many others have mentioned on here unfortunately it’s likely to take an upturn in fortunes on the field to get folk back in.
We have dwindled down to the die hards for one reason or another.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 8:02:04 GMT
Again LBB Id be glad to know what was said and by whom? I overheard comments in the main stand similar to what Hannibal has said - I have no idea what it was that Calvin supposedly did. I just think there is form for this sort of thing starting from within and I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was the same again here. Yes would appear that there are a few within who would not appreciate anybody who would ask difficult questions of some people. The board members appointed will do this hopefully, and not be the yes men it would appear were wanted. The reappointments were all partially responsible for the McCarthy mess... A good start would be the issuing of a full list of board responsibilities and a monthly update from each board member on progress towards their goals. We havent had this for years. |
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Post by Little Blue Boy on Oct 7, 2017 9:17:32 GMT
I overheard comments in the main stand similar to what Hannibal has said - I have no idea what it was that Calvin supposedly did. I just think there is form for this sort of thing starting from within and I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was the same again here. Yes would appear that there are a few within who would not appreciate anybody who would ask difficult questions of some people. The board members appointed will do this hopefully, and not be the yes men it would appear were wanted. The reappointments were all partially responsible for the McCarthy mess... A good start would be the issuing of a full list of board responsibilities and a monthly update from each board member on progress towards their goals. We havent had this for years. Completely agree re: board members providing regular updates. I also think, like elected Councillors, board members attendance record at board meetings should be published on the CFU website. I know for a fact one re-elected board member in their manifesto stated that they barely missed a board meeting, which from my understanding is a very loose representation of the truth. |
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Post by Lobster on Oct 7, 2017 9:30:45 GMT
Regarding attendances, I suppose what we should remember is that a couple of 3,500 to 4,000 attendances against Tranmere and Wrexham will boost the average significantly by themselves. Most of the home games we've had so far have been against teams without great support.
Does make you wonder what we'd do if one of them got promoted though.
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Post by adrianh on Oct 7, 2017 10:02:09 GMT
Yes would appear that there are a few within who would not appreciate anybody who would ask difficult questions of some people. The board members appointed will do this hopefully, and not be the yes men it would appear were wanted. The reappointments were all partially responsible for the McCarthy mess... A good start would be the issuing of a full list of board responsibilities and a monthly update from each board member on progress towards their goals. We havent had this for years. Completely agree re: board members providing regular updates. I also think, like elected Councillors, board members attendance record at board meetings should be published on the CFU website. I know for a fact one re-elected board member in their manifesto stated that they barely missed a board meeting, which from my understanding is a very loose representation of the truth. I've just had a look at the board minutes on CFU site, you can work out who attends from those. We've just elected a new board and are already making demands of them, possibly with good reason, but not not sure about the elected councillors comparism as they get 16k + a year, our directors are unpaid fans who volunteer. |
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Post by adrianh on Oct 7, 2017 10:05:47 GMT
Completely agree re: board members providing regular updates. I also think, like elected Councillors, board members attendance record at board meetings should be published on the CFU website. I know for a fact one re-elected board member in their manifesto stated that they barely missed a board meeting, which from my understanding is a very loose representation of the truth. I've just had a look at the board minutes on CFU site, you can work out who attends from those. We've just elected a new board and are already making demands of them, possibly with good reason, but not not sure about the elected councillors comparism as they get 16k + a year, our directors are unpaid fans who volunteer. Actually not sure on 16k figure, but point still stands |
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Post by citizenblue on Oct 7, 2017 10:18:12 GMT
I've just had a look at the board minutes on CFU site, you can work out who attends from those. We've just elected a new board and are already making demands of them, possibly with good reason, but not not sure about the elected councillors comparism as they get 16k + a year, our directors are unpaid fans who volunteer. Actually not sure on 16k figure, but point still stands Errrm that was last updated 9th September, and they talk about getting communication sorted FFS. |
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Post by tarvinblue on Oct 7, 2017 10:31:23 GMT
Completely agree re: board members providing regular updates. I also think, like elected Councillors, board members attendance record at board meetings should be published on the CFU website. I know for a fact one re-elected board member in their manifesto stated that they barely missed a board meeting, which from my understanding is a very loose representation of the truth. I've just had a look at the board minutes on CFU site, you can work out who attends from those. We've just elected a new board and are already making demands of them, possibly with good reason, but not not sure about the elected councillors comparism as they get 16k + a year, our directors are unpaid fans who volunteer. This arguement drives me bonkers. If you put yourself forward for a role - voluntary or not - then you take on the responsibility and accountability that comes with that role. If you don't want that then don't put yourself forward or step down if you can't fulfil your duty due to a change in circumstances. Anyone on the board not fulfilling their duty and playing the 'I'm just a volunteer' card is blatantly only on there for a boost to their own personal status, rather than for the good of the club. |
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Post by kyle on Oct 7, 2017 10:49:52 GMT
Spot on, volunteer cannot be an excuse for poor or non performance
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Post by adrianh on Oct 7, 2017 10:54:50 GMT
I've just had a look at the board minutes on CFU site, you can work out who attends from those. We've just elected a new board and are already making demands of them, possibly with good reason, but not not sure about the elected councillors comparism as they get 16k + a year, our directors are unpaid fans who volunteer. This arguement drives me bonkers. If you put yourself forward for a role - voluntary or not - then you take on the responsibility and accountability that comes with that role. If you don't want that then don't put yourself forward or step down if you can't fulfil your duty due to a change in circumstances. Anyone on the board not fulfilling their duty and playing the 'I'm just a volunteer' card is blatantly only on there for a boost to their own personal status, rather than for the good of the club. Can't argue with that principle but still don't think it fair to compare with councillors it's just not the same. As for those in it for personal staus - name and shame perhaps? We've not exactly got people queuing up to be on the board, going on recent years it's likely the two who were unlucky this agm are going to be co-opted anyway. I just worry attitudes of some to the board ie. on here, are stopping people from stepping up, we need them. |
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Post by Little Blue Boy on Oct 7, 2017 12:34:51 GMT
Completely agree re: board members providing regular updates. I also think, like elected Councillors, board members attendance record at board meetings should be published on the CFU website. I know for a fact one re-elected board member in their manifesto stated that they barely missed a board meeting, which from my understanding is a very loose representation of the truth. I've just had a look at the board minutes on CFU site, you can work out who attends from those. We've just elected a new board and are already making demands of them, possibly with good reason, but not not sure about the elected councillors comparism as they get 16k + a year, our directors are unpaid fans who volunteer. I'm not talking about CFU meetings that you or I can attend, I'm talking about board meetings where the decisions get made. Regardless of the comparison, why shouldn't we be able to see board members attendance records? |
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Post by embalmer on Oct 7, 2017 12:51:56 GMT
Are CFU members allowed to request the minutes from board meetings?
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Post by richard on Oct 7, 2017 13:16:43 GMT
Have to agree about the tea/coffee situation. It really was deeply embarrassing to sit there with the room aghast as the chairman and finance director tried to laugh it off / brush it under the carpet. Utterly unprofessional and cringeworthy. I didn't see it in quite the same way and was most certainly not aghast as you describe it. It should be noted that the issue of tea and coffee prices came up because it was suggested by one member that we should double the prices of tea and coffee as the present prices were too cheap. I'm not advocating charging visitors more for their drinks mind you. We shouldn't be doing that. I'm hoping our contracted caterers will be asked to review this urgently. |
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