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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 9:57:07 GMT
The AGM is 4 weeks tomorrow, and the manifestos are due out and online imminently I would have thought.
What would everybody want to see?
Personally I would like to see an injection of new blood onto the board. Certainly one or two people who are not afraid to pop their head over the parapet and finally help the club become more transparent as the board currently are anything but.
Maybe somebody with a background in marketing to help get our message out to the masses and help work to grow crowds?
Whoever it is has got to be prepared to work hard, communicate well and take control of certain tasks under their stewardship.
Thoughts?
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Post by Firestick Frank on Sept 13, 2017 10:48:38 GMT
On your point about a marketing background, our acting Chairman made that the entire thrust of his manifesto a couple of years ago and was elected on the back of it. I'm afraid to say I've seen very little done on that front since he was elected, though.
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 13, 2017 11:36:12 GMT
If you can hold on about 4 years I'll have a business and marketing degree by then.
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Post by embalmer on Sept 13, 2017 12:51:42 GMT
On your point about a marketing background, our acting Chairman made that the entire thrust of his manifesto a couple of years ago and was elected on the back of it. I'm afraid to say I've seen very little done on that front since he was elected, though. Didn't Al from on here have to bang his head against the wall and go down to the club to do all the work in getting that Twitter giveaway/competition sorted last season? Hardly a ringing endorsement of the marketing director! From what I've heard, the recently co-opted younger board members haven't been afraid to ruffle a feather or two. |
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Post by bluefrombirth on Sept 13, 2017 12:59:21 GMT
If you can hold on about 4 years I'll have a business and marketing degree by then. Danny, that would be of no use to you or the club, mate. The problem is too many people have degree's and not enough people have the experience, this is holding back our country economically and club as a business. Get out there knock down doors, get on the ladder and in three years you'll be better off than your mates. |
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Post by Al on Sept 13, 2017 13:00:07 GMT
On your point about a marketing background, our acting Chairman made that the entire thrust of his manifesto a couple of years ago and was elected on the back of it. I'm afraid to say I've seen very little done on that front since he was elected, though. Didn't Al from on here have to bang his head against the wall and go down to the club to do all the work in getting that Twitter giveaway/competition sorted last season? Hardly a ringing endorsement of the marketing director! From what I've heard, the recently co-opted younger board members haven't been afraid to ruffle a feather or two. Took a bit of time, had to keep chasing the team a but but they came good in the end. The problem for me was that we did it for that one game then haven't done it since. I believe Swettenhams have done it on their site once this season in a like and share competition. Unsure if that was of their own doing though with or without support from the club.. I was going to take it a step further and go for co-option onto the board but unfortunately more important matters close to home came up which has left me unable to commit to the role. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 13:14:15 GMT
I would like to see more ownership of the roles that the directors take, and perhaps a short written report in time for every CFU meeting on their progress towards their aims. I'm not talking war and peace, but a couple of lines to highlight the good work that they are doing.
Certain parts of the club (marketing, community, youth, stadium, safety, training facilities etc etc) need firm ownership from board level, and those elected to those roles should be prepared to work hard at developing these areas, and tell us, the members/owners/voters all about it on a regular basis.
This would also stop the criticisms aimed at some of our board that they are only there for the name and prestige and that they offload all of their work onto the CEO or staff at the club, and enable them to show us what progress we are making. We are constantly told of all the hard work that goes on, shout about it then!
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Post by bing on Sept 13, 2017 13:14:56 GMT
If you can hold on about 4 years I'll have a business and marketing degree by then. The problem is too many people have degree's and not enough people have the experience, this is holding back our country economically and club as a business. Get out there knock down doors, get on the ladder and in three years you'll be better off than your mates. Coming from a marketing background, I can categorically say that it would be of use to you Danny! |
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Post by Dodge on Sept 13, 2017 13:18:23 GMT
I would like to see more ownership of the roles that the directors take, and perhaps a short written report in time for every CFU meeting on their progress towards their aims. I'm not talking war and peace, but a couple of lines to highlight the good work that they are doing. Certain parts of the club (marketing, community, youth, stadium, safety, training facilities etc etc) need firm ownership from board level, and those elected to those roles should be prepared to work hard at developing these areas, and tell us, the members/owners/voters all about it on a regular basis. This would also stop the criticisms aimed at some of our board that they are only there for the name and prestige and that they offload all of their work onto the CEO or staff at the club, and enable them to show us what progress we are making. We are constantly told of all the hard work that goes on, shout about it then! Do you go to CFU meetings, NWAS? Genuine question, I've only been to one meeting in recent times and each board member gave an update on their specific portfolio. |
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Post by bluefrombirth on Sept 13, 2017 13:19:22 GMT
Behave, saddle the kid with £40K of debt for a piece of paper, when he could take up an apprenticeship etc and get paid £15k a year (min) for those three years, and come out with the experience.
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Post by bing on Sept 13, 2017 13:25:23 GMT
Behave, saddle the kid with £40K of debt for a piece of paper, when he could take up an apprenticeship etc and get paid £15k a year (min) for those three years, and come out with the experience. Without that piece of paper he'd struggle to get any openings in an ultra competitive industry. Much better to qualify and perhaps freelance at the same time to build up on 'real' experience. |
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 13, 2017 13:52:23 GMT
If you can hold on about 4 years I'll have a business and marketing degree by then. Danny, that would be of no use to you or the club, mate. The problem is too many people have degree's and not enough people have the experience, this is holding back our country economically and club as a business. Get out there knock down doors, get on the ladder and in three years you'll be better off than your mates. That was deep! I am already doing some work for the club within marketing, Maguire has previously mentioned marketing ourselves in the city centre as I have recommended to him in the past, and I'm ready to help where I can with it. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 14:12:35 GMT
I would like to see more ownership of the roles that the directors take, and perhaps a short written report in time for every CFU meeting on their progress towards their aims. I'm not talking war and peace, but a couple of lines to highlight the good work that they are doing. Certain parts of the club (marketing, community, youth, stadium, safety, training facilities etc etc) need firm ownership from board level, and those elected to those roles should be prepared to work hard at developing these areas, and tell us, the members/owners/voters all about it on a regular basis. This would also stop the criticisms aimed at some of our board that they are only there for the name and prestige and that they offload all of their work onto the CEO or staff at the club, and enable them to show us what progress we are making. We are constantly told of all the hard work that goes on, shout about it then! Do you go to CFU meetings, NWAS? Genuine question, I've only been to one meeting in recent times and each board member gave an update on their specific portfolio. Yes pal. The ones I miss I stream at home or work. Director updates aside from Brian Burns and Lawrence Kirkby are sporadic (and that is being kind), and usually Lawrence and Mark Maguire have to do the heavy lifting. Even if every director spoke in every meeting, surely in the spirit of transparency it would be simple to preci their speeches into a 2 or 3 paragraph update, which could be compiled and emailed to those members who cannot attend the meetings or connect online? To be elected director of Chester FC by your fellow supporters is one of the best honours a blues fan can have. I've been blessed to have received this honour twice. But with that comes great responsibility and a need for a ridiculous amount of effort and hard work. I am sure all of our directors do this, so they should tell us. As I say, communication is king, and there is no excuse for any lack of it nowadays. |
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Post by MPW on Sept 13, 2017 17:50:21 GMT
Received my AGM documents in the post today.
Anyone else?
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Post by Al on Sept 13, 2017 18:05:58 GMT
Received my AGM documents in the post today. Anyone else? Yep same |
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Post by embalmer on Sept 13, 2017 20:15:34 GMT
7 places on the board up isn't there? How many manifestos are there?
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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 13, 2017 21:14:21 GMT
Do you go to CFU meetings, NWAS? Genuine question, I've only been to one meeting in recent times and each board member gave an update on their specific portfolio. Yes pal. The ones I miss I stream at home or work. Director updates aside from Brian Burns and Lawrence Kirkby are sporadic (and that is being kind), and usually Lawrence and Mark Maguire have to do the heavy lifting. Even if every director spoke in every meeting, surely in the spirit of transparency it would be simple to preci their speeches into a 2 or 3 paragraph update, which could be compiled and emailed to those members who cannot attend the meetings or connect online? To be elected director of Chester FC by your fellow supporters is one of the best honours a blues fan can have. I've been blessed to have received this honour twice. But with that comes great responsibility and a need for a ridiculous amount of effort and hard work. I am sure all of our directors do this, so they should tell us. As I say, communication is king, and there is no excuse for any lack of it nowadays. The updates from one or two directors at CFU meetings last season were basically repeats of previous meetings. It was I am working on this, or I plan to do this. Never was it "I have achieved this, and this is what it means for the club". I've heard plenty of corporate speak at work over the years. It just sounded like more. You got the feeling they hadn't really achieved anything tangible at all. Being polite it may take new directors a while to get to grips with their portfolio, and maybe don't get much help to start them off. |
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Post by MPW on Sept 13, 2017 21:27:11 GMT
Interesting to read that the 'transfer fees in' was only £71k, I thought the fee received for Hughes from Leicester was over £100k with add on's?
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Post by Firestick Frank on Sept 13, 2017 22:07:49 GMT
Did the players contracts cease after the last game of the season? Pretty sure they were all on season-only contracts (44 weeks). If so, we can assume the £71k received in transfer fees for the last financial year will be Sam Hughes. Why only £71k when we were told approximately £130,000 initial fee? If Hughes was contracted until June then who else have we made £71k for?
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Post by mcseal on Sept 13, 2017 23:12:45 GMT
Pretty sure Hughes signed for Leicester in June (after our accounting year end) Could the £71k relate to add ons for Sarcevic from Fleetwood ?
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Post by tarvinblue on Sept 14, 2017 4:57:58 GMT
Sarcevic left on a free so there will be no add ons there. Could it be to do with a payment structure related to Hughes? I'm not sure why a club like Leicester wouldn't pay in full up front but just a thought. Let's hope we did get the reported 130k otherwise we will be more skint than we thought we were already!
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Post by Lobster on Sept 14, 2017 5:15:24 GMT
Sarcevic left on a free so there will be no add ons there. No he didn't, he joined Fleetwood for an undisclosed fee believed to be around £100K. I think maybe you're confusing it with the Heneghan deal. |
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 14, 2017 6:06:17 GMT
Sarcevic left on a free so there will be no add ons there. No he didn't, he joined Fleetwood for an undisclosed fee believed to be around £100K. I think maybe you're confusing it with the Heneghan deal. Think he means he left Fleetwood on a free so we got no sell on fee. |
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Post by Lobster on Sept 14, 2017 6:10:52 GMT
No he didn't, he joined Fleetwood for an undisclosed fee believed to be around £100K. I think maybe you're confusing it with the Heneghan deal. Think he means he left Fleetwood on a free so we got no sell on fee. Ah right, my mistake! |
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Post by tarvinblue on Sept 14, 2017 10:30:39 GMT
Sarcevic left on a free so there will be no add ons there. No he didn't, he joined Fleetwood for an undisclosed fee believed to be around £100K. I think maybe you're confusing it with the Heneghan deal. He left Fleetwood on a free. |
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Post by Al on Sept 14, 2017 10:38:52 GMT
The accounts make for interesting reading.
From what I can see we have around 270k cash in the bank. down from 330k the year before.
Commercial and Sponsorship income at around the 160k mark. I would like to see how that looks though against previous years to see if we've grown our income or whether this has fallen against performance over previous campaigns.
The incoming 71k in fees might be a part payment for Sam Hughes? Could be payment from Leicester in two instalments perhaps?
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Post by Firestick Frank on Sept 14, 2017 10:49:17 GMT
Why would an EPL club not pay a measly sum like £130,000 in one go?
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Post by Pseudoscally on Sept 14, 2017 11:05:20 GMT
I'm assuming the accounts only relate up to the end of the financial year, April 2017 and therefore no Sam Hughes money would be included?
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Post by Lobster on Sept 14, 2017 11:52:11 GMT
Why would an EPL club not pay a measly sum like £130,000 in one go? I'm no businessman, but many companies see it as in their interest to delay payments as much as possible. The longer money sits in their accounts, the more interest. Doesn't make much difference for this one transaction in isolation, but it might do if they do it all the time. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Sept 14, 2017 12:12:07 GMT
I'm assuming the accounts only relate up to the end of the financial year, April 2017 and therefore no Sam Hughes money would be included? Accounts end 28th May 2017. Didn't Hughes move in June? |
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