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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Sept 14, 2017 13:47:24 GMT
Doesn't it?
Just hope the board have got the courage and understanding to contact Chesterfield to ask for permission to interview him. Personally doubt it though, I think they are too amateurish and don't understand how professional football works. Only interviewing formal applicants means no hopers get considered while quality managers who are in a job are overlooked. If you're in a football job you risk losing it if you are applying elsewhere, it's not like moving from Primark to Next!
The Candidates are coming out of the woodwork but Barrow is the only one with experience ranging from FA Cup winners to Conference. He is a Chester legend with REAL MANAGERIAL EXPERIENCE not just had one episode of success followed by a number of sackings. Also the fact that he's not out of a job, and hasn't been for years shows how highly he is thought of.
As I said, confidence in the board to get it right? Wish I did have.
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Post by sqzl on Sept 14, 2017 14:32:04 GMT
He hasn't applied as of yesterday, not seen anything today to suggest this has changed. I think no matter what reputation you uphold, you have to apply for a job to be even considered an option. This isn't the board being amateur, if he doesn't apply it's clear to them he isn't interested in the job. He's on a short term deal at Chesterfield for nowhere near the money our manager would get. Living about 20 minutes from Chesterfield i know a fair few fans who expected him to go for our job....not happened yet.
Ronnie Moore has applied, and i hope he's not even on the shortlist, though suspect he might be. Bignot surely favorite, talk of this American coach is just laughable.
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Post by billyw on Sept 14, 2017 14:47:52 GMT
Doesn't it? Just hope the board have got the courage and understanding to contact Chesterfield to ask for permission to interview him. Personally doubt it though, I think they are too amateurish and don't understand how professional football works. Only interviewing formal applicants means no hopers get considered while quality managers who are in a job are overlooked. If you're in a football job you risk losing it if you are applying elsewhere, it's not like moving from Primark to Next! The Candidates are coming out of the woodwork but Barrow is the only one with experience ranging from FA Cup winners to Conference. He is a Chester legend with REAL MANAGERIAL EXPERIENCE not just had one episode of success followed by a number of sackings. Also the fact that he's not out of a job, and hasn't been for years shows how highly he is thought of. As I said, confidence in the board to get it right? Wish I did have. Why have a go at the Board when you have no idea whether Barrow is interested in the job - I've seen nothing to suggest that he is, quite the reverse in fact. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 14:53:39 GMT
People need to get their head out of the clouds with regards to Barrow as manager. It's a lovely, romantic thought and all but we need someone with extensive knowledge of the league we are in and those below. Too many thinking with their hearts and not their heads.
Marcus Bignots blue and white army!!!
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Post by agl on Sept 14, 2017 15:29:14 GMT
Why not Barrow. He could be out of a job soon at Chesterfield anyway. The first poster explains why the best candidates don't (or can't) always apply.
You end up with those who are currently out of a job.
IMO Barrow is the perfect fit. He must fancy another crack at management.
Of the others mentioned Bignot is a decent call. We desperately need someone with a bit of character who can freshen the place up.
Who ever comes in will be working with what is already here and maybe calling in a few favours - anyone who thinks there's going to be a squad overhaul is dreaming. We are stuck with them. They are on contracts and they're not just going to walk away to make room for fresh blood. I think Davies on a six month deal is the only one who could be moved on.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Sept 14, 2017 15:34:41 GMT
I don't get all this stuff about Barrow not having knowledge of lower league football.
He's a leader, it doesn't matter what level of football you're at, if people listen to you then you have what it takes.
Bring back the barrow
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Sept 14, 2017 15:48:53 GMT
Really does it? There is no evidence of him having even applied. I remember the good days under him back in the day and of course long to return to something similar.
As previously mentioned what success has he had in recent times folks not much is the answer.
We can't live in the past that is not going to help our club move forward. Recent achievement in the conference and its feeder leagues is absolutely paramount.
Maguire states we have had 120 serious applications and will not be headhunting anyone.
From those who we are said to have submitted an application one previous post suggests they will need to make do with what we have plus any favours they can swing. I agree entirely therefore he must have good contacts.
Once again from names branded around Bignot must head the list that said if Hatswell and Watson have applied neither would be a bad shout.
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Post by noddy on Sept 14, 2017 16:11:25 GMT
Why not Barrow. He could be out of a job soon at Chesterfield anyway. The first poster explains why the best candidates don't (or can't) always apply. You end up with those who are currently out of a job. IMO Barrow is the perfect fit. He must fancy another crack at management. Of the others mentioned Bignot is a decent call. We desperately need someone with a bit of character who can freshen the place up. Who ever comes in will be working with what is already here and maybe calling in a few favours - anyone who thinks there's going to be a squad overhaul is dreaming. We are stuck with them. They are on contracts and they're not just going to walk away to make room for fresh blood. I think Davies on a six month deal is the only one who could be moved on. Unfortunately Davies signed another 6 months extension in pre season. |
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Post by MPW on Sept 14, 2017 18:19:40 GMT
People need to get their head out of the clouds with regards to Barrow as manager. It's a lovely, romantic thought and all but we need someone with extensive knowledge of the league we are in and those below. Too many thinking with their hearts and not their heads. Marcus Bignots blue and white army!!! Spot on! |
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Post by southernblue on Sept 14, 2017 18:58:54 GMT
Barrow has what it takes, tactical nouse, the character to inspire and push the players and a fondness for our great club.
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Sept 14, 2017 19:01:05 GMT
Whoever is appointed will have my unequivocal support. However from what I've learnt about Bignot recently I predict definite relegation........Solihull was a one off fluke, the bloke is clueless.
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 14, 2017 19:03:47 GMT
Whoever is appointed will have my unequivocal support. However from what I've learnt about Bignot recently I predict definite relegation........Solihull was a one off fluke, the bloke is clueless. If Bignot gets us relegated I will buy you a season ticket for next season |
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 14, 2017 19:05:17 GMT
Whoever is appointed will have my unequivocal support. However from what I've learnt about Bignot recently I predict definite relegation........Solihull was a one off fluke, the bloke is clueless. A one of fluke doesn't happen over FIVE years, and totally transforming a club with over 30 new men's women's kids teams and developing the club into a solid conference side is NOT a fluke. Bignot is the best candidate there is. Barrow would be good but what recent experience does he have of Conference football? Oh wait he's a club legend that gives us automatic promotion right?! |
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Post by CH3STER on Sept 14, 2017 19:20:00 GMT
Whoever is appointed will have my unequivocal support. However from what I've learnt about Bignot recently I predict definite relegation........Solihull was a one off fluke, the bloke is clueless. A one of fluke doesn't happen over FIVE years, and totally transforming a club with over 30 new men's women's kids teams and developing the club into a solid conference side is NOT a fluke. Bignot is the best candidate there is. Barrow would be good but what recent experience does he have of Conference football? Oh wait he's a club legend that gives us automatic promotion right?! Barrow has a better CV than Bignot. He would create momentum far quicker which is what we need to get clear of the bottom 8. I'll back whoever the board bring in but if Barrow is available we would be daft not pick him. |
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Post by tarvinblue on Sept 14, 2017 19:20:30 GMT
Why are people living off the back of a man that was a half decent manager for us 20 years ago? Surely we should see if Big Cyrille and Stuey Rimmer fancy turning out again based on that logic.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 19:39:02 GMT
i seriously don't think we will see Barrow just yet maybe 1 day as Director of Football but think as a manager no
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Post by CH3STER on Sept 14, 2017 19:48:20 GMT
You don't spend 7 years at Wigan if you are clueless. His first 4 years were as a coach in the Prem (don't forget the FA cup ) but he has been assistant manager for the last 4 years in the Championship/League 1. Before all that he was a football league manager and obviously managed us. The man has so much experience I would be amazed if there was any negativity if he was given the job. I don't think anyone can question his experience either as I don't buy into the - he doesn't know the confrence rubbish. He has been a league 2 scout since he left Wigan and it's not like the new manager will be given money to buy in new players, we need a motivator and an organiser . I think the fans that think Bignot would do a better job than Barrow are in the minority if you were to ask the 1500 hardcore and not just DevaChat posters. As I said before I will back Bignot if he comes in, I like the sound of him and what he has done so far as a manager. Barrow is the standout candidate though if he chooses to apply
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Post by Woody on Sept 14, 2017 19:56:51 GMT
You don't spend 7 years at Wigan if you are clueless. His first 4 years were as a coach in the Prem (don't forget the FA cup ) but he has been assistant manager for the last 4 years in the Championship/League 1. Before all that he was a football league manager and obviously managed us. The man has so much experience I would be amazed if there was any negativity if he was given the job. I don't think anyone can question his experience either as I don't buy into the - he doesn't know the confrence rubbish. He has been a league 2 scout since he left Wigan and it's not like the new manager will be given money to buy in new players, we need a motivator and an organiser . I think the fans that think Bignot would do a better job than Barrow are in the minority if you were to ask the 1500 hardcore and not just DevaChat posters. As I said before I will back Bignot if he comes in, I like the sound of him and what he has done so far as a manager. Barrow is the standout candidate though if he chooses to apply |
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 14, 2017 20:10:38 GMT
A one of fluke doesn't happen over FIVE years, and totally transforming a club with over 30 new men's women's kids teams and developing the club into a solid conference side is NOT a fluke. Bignot is the best candidate there is. Barrow would be good but what recent experience does he have of Conference football? Oh wait he's a club legend that gives us automatic promotion right?! Barrow has a better CV than Bignot. He would create momentum far quicker which is what we need to get clear of the bottom 8. I'll back whoever the board bring in but if Barrow is available we would be daft not pick him. But what recent success does Barrow have? How long ago did he manage in non league? |
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Post by Malcolm Tucker on Sept 14, 2017 20:13:46 GMT
Can anyone explain to me what Bignot has actually achieved at National League level?
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Post by CH3STER on Sept 14, 2017 20:18:31 GMT
I think some people are missing the point. Barrow has been coaching, managing and scouting players who are better than non league for the past 15 years. Has he learned more about motivation, organisation, coaching and tactics by being involved in clubs who have been in the prem, europe, championship, league 1 & 2?  Obviously yes |
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Sept 14, 2017 20:20:02 GMT
Barrow has a better CV than Bignot. He would create momentum far quicker which is what we need to get clear of the bottom 8. I'll back whoever the board bring in but if Barrow is available we would be daft not pick him. But what recent success does Barrow have? How long ago did he manage in non league? Are you for real? Let's appoint the ex manager of Birmingham City Ladies and Solihull Moors who is unemployed (for good reason) instead of an experienced manager, legend of the club who won the FA Cup as a coach and has managed at every level from the Championship to the Conference........ Using your logic we'd reappoint McCarthy if he applied! |
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Sept 14, 2017 20:20:12 GMT
Barrow has a better CV than Bignot. He would create momentum far quicker which is what we need to get clear of the bottom 8. I'll back whoever the board bring in but if Barrow is available we would be daft not pick him. But what recent success does Barrow have? How long ago did he manage in non league? Are you for real? Let's appoint the ex manager of Birmingham City Ladies and Solihull Moors who is unemployed (for good reason) instead of an experienced manager, legend of the club who won the FA Cup as a coach and has managed at every level from the Championship to the Conference........ Using your logic we'd reappoint McCarthy if he applied! |
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Post by Woody on Sept 14, 2017 20:23:15 GMT
You don't spend 7 years at Wigan if you are clueless. His first 4 years were as a coach in the Prem (don't forget the FA cup ) but he has been assistant manager for the last 4 years in the Championship/League 1. Before all that he was a football league manager and obviously managed us. The man has so much experience I would be amazed if there was any negativity if he was given the job. I don't think anyone can question his experience either as I don't buy into the - he doesn't know the confrence rubbish. He has been a league 2 scout since he left Wigan and it's not like the new manager will be given money to buy in new players, we need a motivator and an organiser . I think the fans that think Bignot would do a better job than Barrow are in the minority if you were to ask the 1500 hardcore and not just DevaChat posters. As I said before I will back Bignot if he comes in, I like the sound of him and what he has done so far as a manager. Barrow is the standout candidate though if he chooses to apply I will back Bignot but I extremely wary, as for Barrow or even Holden you don't get to positions in the premier league team being a muppet, for all Bignots youth and community work I think are current volunteers and staff have exceeded what Bignot did at Solihull. With regards to Marcus national league record think our past manager and Sharp had as good a start last year and we know how that ended up. Previously when In the conference North league I think Neil Young had a better record and this can be seen with our head to head record. If people accept this as the future fair enough but for me experience and knowledge is required to blossom our talented young coaches and make our club an attractive team to follow compounded with all the good community work we already do. I can imagine if any of the candidates wished to ever apply for what Graham or Andy as coaches or manager s they wouldn't get to the interview stage. Go for experience a manager with football knowledge not an egotistic PR freak. |
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Post by Woody on Sept 14, 2017 20:27:24 GMT
Majority of applicants could only dream of what Andy and Graham have achieved then wake up in a wet patch, that's the reality and difference in class of coach/ manager,
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Post by CH3STER on Sept 14, 2017 20:30:26 GMT
I think that's hit the nail on the head. Well done to Bignot for making Solihull an established national league club and creating 30 odd teams that sit under the 1st team but we don't need that. Our superb volunteers have already done that for us. We need a manager that will organise and motivate the 1st team and not mention budgets when the going gets tough.
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Post by Woody on Sept 14, 2017 20:36:45 GMT
I think that's hit the nail on the head. Well done to Bignot for making Solihull an established national league club and creating 30 odd teams that sit under the 1st team but we don't need that. Our superb volunteers have already done that for us. We need a manager that will organise and motivate the 1st team and not mention budgets when the going gets tough. Totally correct we have all these things thnks to our wonderful volunteers who don't get paid but have already made us the envy of many a club with our community presence and youth teams. We now need a proper experienced football man to bring on our young high potential coaches. We have infrastructure now is time to deliver on the pitch and fulfill our potential as a club |
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 14, 2017 20:47:01 GMT
But what recent success does Barrow have? How long ago did he manage in non league? Are you for real? Let's appoint the ex manager of Birmingham City Ladies and Solihull Moors who is unemployed (for good reason) instead of an experienced manager, legend of the club who won the FA Cup as a coach and has managed at every level from the Championship to the Conference........ Using your logic we'd reappoint McCarthy if he applied! Bignot is the stand out favourite as voted by fans, so don't try and target me here as it's a majority who want Bignot |
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 14, 2017 20:48:20 GMT
Weird how the only place I've seen people want Holden is on Devachat. And not just once. People genuinely want the manger of Flint Town?
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Post by bscfc2017 on Sept 14, 2017 20:55:58 GMT
It seems harsh on Bignot that your judging his success at Birmingham City Ladies, have you missed what he did at Solihull Moors?
Got them out of the NLN on a decent budget and before November 2016 had 25 points on the board.
That alongside the amount of players he has worked with and developed? We aren't a club blessed with loads of money and need someone to work and develop players, everyone is harping on about Grimsby being a fail but we aren't Grimsby! Paul Hurst prior to him got slated and look at him now, Humpty Dumpty who is in charge at Grimsby now isn't pulling up any trees and it's Bignot's players that are still in the fans opinion "their best players"
We got to stop living in the past, Barrow has been here and done it, whoever gets the job gets my backing but having someone hungry and wanting the job is key for me!
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