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Post by whopper3 on Sept 16, 2017 17:09:10 GMT
He is the CEO of this disaster and he extended McCarthys contract. If Maguire was a man he would walk the plank and clear off.
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Post by Captain Duff on Sept 16, 2017 17:50:22 GMT
He is the CEO of this disaster and he extended McCarthys contract. If Maguire was a man he would walk the plank and clear off. As has been pointed out to you before, but you never get it, it was the board who extended the contract for Macca.
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 16, 2017 17:53:39 GMT
Maguire was an integral part of the decision to extent McCarthys contract. He needs to go.
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Post by MPW on Sept 16, 2017 18:14:16 GMT
He is the CEO of this disaster and he extended McCarthys contract. If Maguire was a man he would walk the plank and clear off. Clueless
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 16, 2017 18:16:35 GMT
Maguire drove Stockport into the gutter and is doing the same at Chester.
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 16, 2017 19:13:37 GMT
Please ban this fool Big Si
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Post by Firestick Frank on Sept 16, 2017 19:19:50 GMT
Why are you calling for a ban? At a bit of a push it's trolling but that's all that's worth banning him for. I will say the jury is still out on Maguire for me until the club accounts are out and we can compare them to previous re: money being brought in by him.
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 16, 2017 20:11:31 GMT
dmcnally
Grow up.
we live in a free speech society.
Why do you want to ban anyone who disagrees with you ? you need to grow up son.
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 16, 2017 20:12:06 GMT
Lets ban anyone who dmcnally doesn't agree with.
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Post by soulseal on Sept 16, 2017 20:51:50 GMT
Lets ban anyone who dmcnally doesn't agree with. Err, yeah alright let's do that. It would be an improvement.
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Post by sirfred on Sept 16, 2017 20:59:54 GMT
Whopper you need to stop watching Pirates of the Caribbean - your obsessed with walking the plank !
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Post by g1 on Sept 16, 2017 21:12:59 GMT
I actually agree with whooper 3 he's nothing but trouble and a waste of money get rid
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 16, 2017 21:16:35 GMT
Lets ban anyone who dmcnally doesn't agree with. It's not about who I don't agree with there's many people I don't agree with but they don't just try and troll and go on a wind up. Calling for Maguire to go clearly just shows you're either a WUM or deluded
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 16, 2017 22:01:12 GMT
Maguire drove Stockport into the gutter and is doing the same at Chester. And Hull City.
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Post by thetheremin on Sept 16, 2017 22:42:18 GMT
dmcnally Grow up. we live in a free speech society. Why do you want to ban anyone who disagrees with you ? you need to grow up son. You're being disagreed with because you're telling whoppers whooper3
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Post by Lobster on Sept 17, 2017 9:20:41 GMT
It's tough because I do always believe club directors and boards should carry the can for managerial appointments that don't work out. I think in particular clubs like Birmingham who were doing fine under Gary Rowett before someone decided they wanted a bigger name and appointed Zola who nearly got them relegated, and now they've decided they've had enough of Redknapp as well. Totally self-inflicted problem there and someone should be hauled over the coals for it. How can their board take themselves seriously after that carry-on, and expect other managers to?
We're not at that sort of farcical level ourselves, but I hope lessons are being learned by Maguire and the board.
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Post by trev on Sept 17, 2017 12:11:43 GMT
But unfortunately we seem to be the diametric opposite of Birmingham , through inaction and not being decisive, which has also led to very poor results. That McCarthy was allowed to remain and plod on in post for months after wholly unacceptable first team results /performances on the basis that everything would eventually click, shows we are frankly far too nice and naive . The Club seemed to be more concerned about the personal impact on Jon of losing his job and the benefits of his other peripheral roles, rather than acting decisively and rationally on footballing matters in the best interests of the Club. Even when he was removed , this was with an air of reluctance, despite his utter failure for months, which I found very annoying. The club seems to be far too cosy for the manager and players, with direct criticism seemingly in very short supply. MM was still defending the indefensible just before JMs inevitable departure, but again with complete silence to the wider fan base from the Board, or even Chairman. A much more hard-headed and professional attitude as regards First Team footballing matters is now required.
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Post by rcb on Sept 17, 2017 12:40:17 GMT
Whilst I agree that McCarthy was allowed to stay far too long I think the reason was simply that the board were not prepared to accept his contract extension was a major and costly error. Whether that leads to the long term demise of the club only time will tell. I am very worried for the future.
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Post by paulie on Sept 17, 2017 12:50:51 GMT
Please ban this fool Big Si That's deva chat oldco behaviour.
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Post by billyw on Sept 17, 2017 13:02:03 GMT
But unfortunately we seem to be the diametric opposite of Birmingham , through inaction and not being decisive, which has also led to very poor results. That McCarthy was allowed to remain and plod on in post for months after wholly unacceptable first team results /performances on the basis that everything would eventually click, shows we are frankly far too nice and naive . The Club seemed to be more concerned about the personal impact on Jon of losing his job and the benefits of his other peripheral roles, rather than acting decisively and rationally on footballing matters in the best interests of the Club. Even when he was removed , this was with an air of reluctance, despite his utter failure for months, which I found very annoying. The club seems to be far too cosy for the manager and players, with direct criticism seemingly in very short supply. MM was still defending the indefensible just before JMs inevitable departure, but again with complete silence to the wider fan base from the Board, or even Chairman. A much more hard-headed and professional attitude as regards First Team footballing matters is now required. Agreed. Had we not been a fan owned club, McCarthy would have bee sacked 6 months ago. I'm not sure that a fan owned club is capable of taking 'a hard nosed and professional attitude'. As we've seen on here, 'Jon was a nice man and a family man' and no doubt this sort of 'Evostick' attitude has been taken by the Board with the inevitable consequence.
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Post by Captain Duff on Sept 17, 2017 13:56:12 GMT
But unfortunately we seem to be the diametric opposite of Birmingham , through inaction and not being decisive, which has also led to very poor results. That McCarthy was allowed to remain and plod on in post for months after wholly unacceptable first team results /performances on the basis that everything would eventually click, shows we are frankly far too nice and naive . The Club seemed to be more concerned about the personal impact on Jon of losing his job and the benefits of his other peripheral roles, rather than acting decisively and rationally on footballing matters in the best interests of the Club. Even when he was removed , this was with an air of reluctance, despite his utter failure for months, which I found very annoying. The club seems to be far too cosy for the manager and players, with direct criticism seemingly in very short supply. MM was still defending the indefensible just before JMs inevitable departure, but again with complete silence to the wider fan base from the Board, or even Chairman. A much more hard-headed and professional attitude as regards First Team footballing matters is now required. Agreed. Had we not been a fan owned club, McCarthy would have bee sacked 6 months ago. I'm not sure that a fan owned club is capable of taking 'a hard nosed and professional attitude'. As we've seen on here, 'Jon was a nice man and a family man' and no doubt this sort of 'Evostick' attitude has been taken by the Board with the inevitable consequence. Depends who you elect to the Board doesn't it, given we have votes to decide what type of Board we want. There are enough business owners/managers on it already to make it perfectly good in management terms in theory, but it is probably time for some new faces regardless.
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 17, 2017 14:55:59 GMT
Please ban this fool Big Si That's deva chat oldco behaviour. But genuinely what is the point in this user ? Post after post of calling every person on the planet incompetent and a disgrace to the club ffs
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Post by highpeakblue on Sept 17, 2017 16:35:54 GMT
dmcnally Grow up. we live in a free speech society. Why do you want to ban anyone who disagrees with you ? you need to grow up son. Actually, you need to look up the definition of defamation. Calling someone incompetent in print is a dangerous game.
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 17, 2017 16:59:43 GMT
Tell Maguire and Mccarthry to take me to court then. They are both incompetent. Not defamation but fact.
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Post by Imperial on Sept 17, 2017 16:59:50 GMT
dmcnally Grow up. we live in a free speech society. Why do you want to ban anyone who disagrees with you ? you need to grow up son. Actually, you need to look up the definition of defamation. Calling someone incompetent in print is a dangerous game. Surely that only applies to the likes of print media. Otherwise any footballer could have half the posters on their rivals' forum in court. I'm fairly sure you have to prove there's been a detrimental effect AND that it isn't true for it to be defamation. In this case it'd be far too open to interpretation. Where do you draw the line of competence in football?
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 17, 2017 17:10:19 GMT
highpeakblue is talking absolute nonsense. How does the court define "incompetent" ? Not defamation at all.
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Post by highpeakblue on Sept 17, 2017 17:24:32 GMT
highpeakblue is talking absolute nonsense. How does the court define "incompetent" ? Not defamation at all. More fool you if that is what you believe. You wrote that exact word in your previous thread. You need to be careful what you put out on the internet, it CAN be used against you. Definition of defamation What are some examples? Calling someone dishonest, corrupt, hypocritical, lazy, incompetent, criminal, unfaithful, or financially troubled. The publication or broadcast of any libelous or slanderous statement about an individual or business that can be proven to be false and published with the intention of harming that entity's reputation is considered to be defamation. Online defamation is the publication of such statements made on any Internet based media including blogs, forums, websites, and even social networking websites. While many Internet users believe that they are free to say and do as they like while on the Internet, this is untrue and the same defamation laws and regulations stand for online defamation as they do in any form of media
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Post by Maravilla on Sept 17, 2017 17:37:34 GMT
highpeakblue is talking absolute nonsense. How does the court define "incompetent" ? Not defamation at all. More fool you if that is what you believe. You wrote that exact word in your previous thread. You need to be careful what you put out on the internet, it CAN be used against you. Definition of defamation What are some examples? Calling someone dishonest, corrupt, hypocritical, lazy, incompetent, criminal, unfaithful, or financially troubled. The publication or broadcast of any libelous or slanderous statement about an individual or business that can be proven to be false and published with the intention of harming that entity's reputation is considered to be defamation. Online defamation is the publication of such statements made on any Internet based media including blogs, forums, websites, and even social networking websites. While many Internet users believe that they are free to say and do as they like while on the Internet, this is untrue and the same defamation laws and regulations stand for online defamation as they do in any form of media Come on now. It's a pretty high legal hurdle to meet in UK law, read the legislation. Find some case law where somebody has been found guilty of defamation for what whopper has said on a football forum.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Sept 17, 2017 17:38:08 GMT
Can't be defamation - McCarthy was proven incompetent because he was ultimately sacked for dreadful results - results are surely what defines a football manager's competence. If that isn't proven incompetence I don't know what is.
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 17, 2017 17:38:22 GMT
highpeakblue
Get a life.
Tell Maguire to take me to court then.
He was incompetent at Hull and at Stockport also.
He is still incompetent at Chester.
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