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Post by roman on Sept 16, 2017 18:26:23 GMT
Grass isn't always greener is it!!! The amount of smug opinions on this site when he was sacked.
Exactly what I said at the beginning of the year is happening now. Change isn't always for the better when you want stability!
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Post by bethnalblue on Sept 16, 2017 18:31:15 GMT
Grass isn't always greener is it!!! The amount of smug opinions on this site when he was sacked. Exactly what I said at the beginning of the year is happening now. Change isn't always for the better when you want stability! Behave yourself!! McCarthy created this mess |
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Post by Paul Da Part on Sept 16, 2017 18:36:46 GMT
I tend to ignore anything Roman says, so therefore there really is nothing to see here.
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 16, 2017 18:38:07 GMT
roman put very simply you are an idiot.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2017 18:40:17 GMT
I think Roman has made a valid point.
For the record, I've always felt that Kevin Wilkin was not given enough time at Wrexham.
Managers should not be sacked on Internet forums.
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Post by whopper1 on Sept 16, 2017 18:58:49 GMT
Grass isn't always greener is it!!! The amount of smug opinions on this site when he was sacked. Exactly what I said at the beginning of the year is happening now. Change isn't always for the better when you want stability! give ur head a wobble, I will be suprised if the clown ever manages again, and it certainly won't be conference level or above |
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Post by roman on Sept 16, 2017 19:10:19 GMT
Its easy to criticize, lets not forget he had all his strikers out and had to nick results aka Aldershot. He should have been given till Christmas. As I have said many a time before you get what you pay for and at this level you need loyalty, commitment and time. But some fans scream for his head and the board jump, out of fear losing their positions. Lets hope they get the next decision right because some on here were blaming JM for the poor attendance figures as well and i don't see them coming back as was stated on this board. They created this mess they need to fix it
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Post by billyw on Sept 16, 2017 19:11:00 GMT
I tend to ignore anything Roman says, so therefore there really is nothing to see here. Dead right. Roman is just a WUM. Out situation is not the result of sacking McCarthy - our situation is the result of not sacking him 6 months ago. |
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Post by Paul Da Part on Sept 16, 2017 19:13:59 GMT
Nah, the mess was created in 2010 when Chester City died.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Sept 16, 2017 19:16:54 GMT
I tend to ignore anything Roman says, so therefore there really is nothing to see here. Dead right. Roman is just a WUM. Out situation is not the result of sacking McCarthy - our situation is the result of not sacking him 6 months ago. Difficult to argue with that. He really should've gone at the end of last season. We won't really get a true reflection of the players until the new permanent manager is in place and has had time to impose his own style on the training ground. |
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Post by roman on Sept 16, 2017 19:17:28 GMT
Grass isn't always greener is it!!! The amount of smug opinions on this site when he was sacked. Exactly what I said at the beginning of the year is happening now. Change isn't always for the better when you want stability! give ur head a wobble, I will be suprised if the clown ever manages again, and it certainly won't be conference level or above Your right he probably won't but it doesn't mean he shouldn't have been given more time |
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Post by trev on Sept 16, 2017 19:19:03 GMT
I suppose it’s all about expectations. What other club would have tolerated no home wins since December 2016 and the clear impact this has had on attendances . What manager could have got away with such passionless and negative performances For such a long period? As a season ticket holder and fan of over 30 years, I take no pleasure in McCarthy's obvious failure and his removal was absolutely necessary as there was no reasonable prospect of improvement . His record was abysmal and he should not been allowed to remain in post following the Borehamwood game last season. How does keeping such a clueless manager in post achieve stability ? .
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Sept 16, 2017 19:23:44 GMT
Indeed you can argue that keeping him would've created more instability as there was only one way we were going with him this season.
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Post by roman on Sept 16, 2017 19:27:36 GMT
I suppose it’s all about expectations. What other club would have tolerated no home wins since December 2016 and the clear impact this has had on attendances . What manager could have got away with such passionless and negative performances For such a long period? As a season ticket holder and fan of over 30 years, I take no pleasure in McCarthy's obvious failure and his removal was absolutely necessary as there was no reasonable prospect of improvement . His record was abysmal and he should not been allowed to remain in post following the Borehamwood game last season. How does keeping such a clueless manager in post achieve stability ? . Good point trev but I don't see people flocking back. Attendances are still poor and always have been, so i don't blame JM for this. I believe with all his strikers out he never had a chance at the start of the season. |
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Post by roman on Sept 16, 2017 19:28:15 GMT
Indeed you can argue that keeping him would've created more instability as there was only one way we were going with him this season. Fair point but we'll never know now. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2017 19:28:17 GMT
He will manage again but certainly wont be a club like ours or anyone else in the Conference he'll end up in Evo stik where they can just about to afford him but cant sack him he'll steal a wage and blame the budget week in week out also will lose links as not many players from the first 5 steps will go below Conference Level
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Post by blue4life on Sept 16, 2017 19:36:54 GMT
Bore off Roman you sad act.
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Post by sirfred on Sept 16, 2017 19:44:11 GMT
Roman kiss my hairy Arse - you ridiculous fool
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Post by trev on Sept 16, 2017 19:51:15 GMT
I think Roman has made a valid point. For the record, I've always felt that Kevin Wilkin was not given enough time at Wrexham. Managers should not be sacked on Internet forums. For the record , Jon McCarthy was sacked by the Club Board and after ignoring calls for his justifiable removal from fans and internet forums for months ! But let’s compare : Kevin Wilkin was sacked after losing in the FA Trophy Final - albeit embarrassingly to North Ferriby and goat fans were already annoyed about a dip in league form. Jon McCarthy failed to win a single home game since December 2016 and even lost 8 on the trot. In 2017 his record was abysmal, and Chester were very fortunate not to have been relegated. So, my goaty friend, the circumstances of the McCarthy and Wilkin sackings do not bare any rational comparison, and Roman’s point is therefore wholly INVALID. |
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Post by Lobster on Sept 16, 2017 19:55:22 GMT
Indeed you can argue that keeping him would've created more instability as there was only one way we were going with him this season. Fair point but we'll never know now. So what's the point in your thread then? You're the only one gloating here. The rest of us feel pretty fed up. |
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Post by bonecrusher on Sept 16, 2017 20:51:49 GMT
Grass isn't always greener is it!!! The amount of smug opinions on this site when he was sacked. Exactly what I said at the beginning of the year is happening now. Change isn't always for the better when you want stability! One of the more stupid posts I have read on here. |
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Post by soulseal on Sept 16, 2017 20:58:10 GMT
I am definitely one who wanted Macca to succeed and supported his continuation into this season.
I have to eat humble pie over this of course, but it is clear that the current situation is quite simply due to his lack of ability as a football manager at this level.
It will take a very good manager to turn this round in a season. I do hope one of the serious candidates has what it takes.
It won't be an easy decision. I would be happy with the appointment of either Bignot or Barrow.
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Post by g1 on Sept 16, 2017 21:17:55 GMT
The grass isn't greener what are you on crack JM caused this by signing poor players on 2 year deals and the likes of Joyce chappell Davies on extensions sorry JM is responsible
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2017 21:24:53 GMT
I think Roman has made a valid point. For the record, I've always felt that Kevin Wilkin was not given enough time at Wrexham. Managers should not be sacked on Internet forums. For the record , Jon McCarthy was sacked by the Club Board and after ignoring calls for his justifiable removal from fans and internet forums for months ! But let’s compare : Kevin Wilkin was sacked after losing in the FA Trophy Final - albeit embarrassingly to North Ferriby and goat fans were already annoyed about a dip in league form. Jon McCarthy failed to win a single home game since December 2016 and even lost 8 on the trot. In 2017 his record was abysmal, and Chester were very fortunate not to have been relegated. So, my goaty friend, the circumstances of the McCarthy and Wilkin sackings do not bare any rational comparison, and Roman’s point is therefore wholly INVALID. You might notice by glancing at RP that a thread has started titled Keates isn't the man to take us forward.They've started already. Joint fifth in the League and two points off the top. We need to bring in a couple of quality key players that's all. There's no open wallet like Tranmere the past couple of seasons. Why sack Keates? Pay off another contract to bring in someone else under the same constraints? |
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Post by roman on Sept 16, 2017 21:46:48 GMT
Bore off Roman you sad act. Your my favourite |
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Post by roman on Sept 16, 2017 21:47:23 GMT
Roman kiss my hairy Arse - you ridiculous fool X |
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Post by Forever Blue on Sept 16, 2017 22:53:06 GMT
Are you really serious Roman ? the damage was already done at the end of last season and he should have gone then.
I do feel sorry for TS as he has just started his coaching but has a long way to go and he has been dumped with this situation.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Sept 17, 2017 1:20:24 GMT
If you look at my post after the final game of last season I was very concerned about the state of our club. Players clearly not trying or playing for their manager and a clear divided split in the fan base surrounding the correct way forward.
There was more than enough to justify removing JM in April. I was quite frustrated that the same didn't happen.
Like many on here I decided to back and support his summer recruitment and get behind the side at the start of the new season.
Allowing JM to continue has clearly been a totally avoidable catastrophic error.
It would be nice to hear some sort of apology from the board about this.
Credit to Tom Shaw for the way he has conducted himself.
It clearly highlights the mammoth task involved ifor whoever comes in.
If we have any funds available then the new boss needs to be given the opportunity to bring a handful of fresh faces in to improve us. The table currently suggests that there are presently four teams much worse than the rest.
We must do all we can to preserve our conference status anything else would be a disaster.
It's really quite sad to have to say that we have clearly been poorly managed by those who are supposed to love and care for our club.
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Post by roman on Sept 17, 2017 8:33:43 GMT
Are you really serious Roman ? the damage was already done at the end of last season and he should have gone then. I do feel sorry for TS as he has just started his coaching but has a long way to go and he has been dumped with this situation. I do get it Forever Blue. But it does annoy me how early people call for managers heads. I garentee now that whoever the new manager is in two years time certain sections of the fans will be extremely vocal and shout down the happy clappers who want stability and once again will be calling for the managers head. |
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Post by Imperial on Sept 17, 2017 12:15:12 GMT
I am definitely one who wanted Macca to succeed and supported his continuation into this season. I have to eat humble pie over this of course, but it is clear that the current situation is quite simply due to his lack of ability as a football manager at this level. It will take a very good manager to turn this round in a season. I do hope one of the serious candidates has what it takes. It won't be an easy decision. I would be happy with the appointment of either Bignot or Barrow. You could have typed this for me. I think those of us that felt he should be given time felt that because of how well the first half of last season went. There was clearly something there. In hindsight it's clear things were only getting worse & changes needed to be made. |
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