|
Post by richard on Sept 23, 2017 21:26:12 GMT
Well, 6 months as there wasn't any games in the summer, but I take your point. As to the influence you refer to, that's cobblers fella. I had nor have I ever had any influence on football matters. You can criticise me all you like for my loyalty if it turns you on, but to assert that I was in some way responsible is completely wrong.
|
|
|
Post by sirfred on Sept 23, 2017 21:36:13 GMT
Richard - we have not seen eye to eye in the past but I acknowledge you as a true blue - simple as that - let's move on from past differences - this is a new era in our great club - The King is dead Long Live the King
|
|
|
Post by thetheremin on Sept 24, 2017 8:25:33 GMT
"This thread is pretty embarrassing Maybe we should have appointed whopper, he seems to know everything about everything...." Kyle old son I have never said I know everything about everything. I merely post my views on here which I am entitled to do in a free society. Isn't this what a forum is for ?? If you don't like my views then don't read my posts. It is that simple. It's not society, it's the internet If you went around in real life being a miserable boring sod, dishing out abuse but reporting every bad thing said about yourself to an authority figure then you'd find it hard to stay out of the Countess A&E.
|
|
|
Post by shango on Sept 24, 2017 12:36:43 GMT
"This thread is pretty embarrassing Maybe we should have appointed whopper, he seems to know everything about everything...." Kyle old son I have never said I know everything about everything. I merely post my views on here which I am entitled to do in a free society. Isn't this what a forum is for ?? If you don't like my views then don't read my posts. It is that simple. It's not society, it's the internet If you went around in real life being a miserable boring sod, dishing out abuse but reporting every bad thing said about yourself to an authority figure then you'd find it hard to stay out of the Countess A&E. Mate he'd probably get himself barred from the Countess for criticizing the incompetent staff and telling nurses how to do their job;)
|
|
|
Post by Firestick Frank on Sept 24, 2017 12:53:09 GMT
The fucking state of some of you lot on here. We all knew McCarthy needed to go, now a load of you are having a go at the board again for not releasing details of a confidential contract negotiation that is STILL ONGOING with the new manager? How the fuck do some of you manage to cope with everyday life!?? Unbelievable Unfortunate you feel the need to downgrade your comments by the unnecessary use of th F word. How is life in the gutter? Exactly my point. I have to rely on hearsay and gossip on this site because the wall of silence is there again. If what you say is true surely a polite confirmation by someone at Board level would be nice. Β It's a fifth tier football club for goodness sake, not the Oval Office in secret talks about North Korea. This I do agree with. As a fan-owned club and knowing we were burnt by Bert and Ernie then we surely have a right to know the length of the manager's contract and know what the board have put in place to alleviate any financial harm that could be caused if things don't work out?
|
|
|
Post by whopper3 on Sept 24, 2017 18:30:48 GMT
shango / thetheremin
I have only ever named 2 people who I consider incompetent.
One has been sacked.
The other will follow soon hopefully.
|
|
|
Post by Captain Duff on Sept 24, 2017 20:22:55 GMT
shango / thetheremin I have only ever named 2 people who I consider incompetent. One has been sacked. The other will follow soon hopefully. Not a word about the great performance yesterday, you must be absolutely gutted we won.
|
|
|
Post by soulseal on Sept 24, 2017 21:18:53 GMT
I must admit some amusement at the incompetent tag so freely aimed at Macca. In the end he didn't have the necessary abilities to manage Chester at this level. As a fan owned club I am glad he got all the chances we should afford to a manager.
Let's remember he got the job on he back if some excellent results to ensure we didn't get relegated and then got the team up to 7th, way ahead of our expectations.
The long run without a home win and the slide down the table was horrible, but there was a sense that injuries in such a small squad were seriously contributing. The jury was out for much of this time on whether Sharpe was the reason for our success. The jury is in now in and we can, on the balance of probabilities say it was Sharps who made the difference.
Macca deserved the chance to put together a new team and many, me included thought a good close season team development would make the difference. It didn't. He lasted 8 games which was the limit of what could be afforded in the circumstances.
MB has had a cracking 1 game, that we were all desperate for and happy to celebrate. I hope he goes on to make a difference that lasts, and will be right behind him in this. But it's only 1 game and we have to be realistic.
It is very easy to criticise Macca, Burr, Young our CEO, but any criticism to be worth expressing should be constructive, helpful and avoid the personal. In this the likes of Whopper 3 et al fail. The likes of Anders et el succeed.
Thankfully we have many more constructive fans that the ridiculous trolls.
|
|
|
Post by thebluecamp on Sept 24, 2017 21:30:10 GMT
I must admit some amusement at the incompetent tag so freely aimed at Macca. In the end he didn't have the necessary abilities to manage Chester at this level. As a fan owned club I am glad he got all the chances we should afford to a manager. Let's remember he got the job on he back if some excellent results to ensure we didn't get relegated and then got the team up to 7th, way ahead of our expectations. The long run without a home win and the slide down the table was horrible, but there was a sense that injuries in such a small squad were seriously contributing. The jury was out for much of this time on whether Sharpe was the reason for our success. The jury is in now in and we can, on the balance of probabilities say it was Sharps who made the difference. Macca deserved the chance to put together a new team and many, me included thought a good close season team development would make the difference. It didn't. He lasted 8 games which was the limit of what could be afforded in the circumstances. MB has had a cracking 1 game, that we were all desperate for and happy to celebrate. I hope he goes on to make a difference that lasts, and will be right behind him in this. But it's only 1 game and we have to be realistic. It is very easy to criticise Macca, Burr, Young our CEO, but any criticism to be worth expressing should be constructive, helpful and avoid the personal. In this the likes of Whopper 3 et al fail. The likes of Anders et el succeed. Thankfully we have many more constructive fans that the ridiculous trolls. Excellent post. Well thought out, worded and presented.
|
|
|
Post by Si on Sept 24, 2017 21:53:49 GMT
I must admit some amusement at the incompetent tag so freely aimed at Macca. In the end he didn't have the necessary abilities to manage Chester at this level. As a fan owned club I am glad he got all the chances we should afford to a manager. Let's remember he got the job on he back if some excellent results to ensure we didn't get relegated and then got the team up to 7th, way ahead of our expectations. The long run without a home win and the slide down the table was horrible, but there was a sense that injuries in such a small squad were seriously contributing. The jury was out for much of this time on whether Sharpe was the reason for our success. The jury is in now in and we can, on the balance of probabilities say it was Sharps who made the difference. Macca deserved the chance to put together a new team and many, me included thought a good close season team development would make the difference. It didn't. He lasted 8 games which was the limit of what could be afforded in the circumstances. MB has had a cracking 1 game, that we were all desperate for and happy to celebrate. I hope he goes on to make a difference that lasts, and will be right behind him in this. But it's only 1 game and we have to be realistic. It is very easy to criticise Macca, Burr, Young our CEO, but any criticism to be worth expressing should be constructive, helpful and avoid the personal. In this the likes of Whopper 3 et al fail. The likes of Anders et el succeed. Thankfully we have many more constructive fans that the ridiculous trolls. Not too much to argue with there. The contract extension really hampered us as he really should have gone after the Boreham Wood game but the board made the call to back him, probably more in hope at avoiding another costly pay off situation. He was well backed in his summer business and we all said before a ball was kicked that there would be no excuses if we found ourselves in another relegation battle. He was handed the tools but if anything we looked worse than last season and he has rightfully gone. I'm hoping the real lesson learnt is what kind of contract we have given Bignot.
|
|
|
Post by everhopeful on Sept 25, 2017 0:51:04 GMT
shango / thetheremin I have only ever named 2 people who I consider incompetent. One has been sacked. The other will follow soon hopefully. Not before you've gone from this board, hopefully!
|
|
|
Post by richard on Sept 25, 2017 7:42:21 GMT
I must admit some amusement at the incompetent tag so freely aimed at Macca. In the end he didn't have the necessary abilities to manage Chester at this level. As a fan owned club I am glad he got all the chances we should afford to a manager. Let's remember he got the job on he back if some excellent results to ensure we didn't get relegated and then got the team up to 7th, way ahead of our expectations. The long run without a home win and the slide down the table was horrible, but there was a sense that injuries in such a small squad were seriously contributing. The jury was out for much of this time on whether Sharpe was the reason for our success. The jury is in now in and we can, on the balance of probabilities say it was Sharps who made the difference. Macca deserved the chance to put together a new team and many, me included thought a good close season team development would make the difference. It didn't. He lasted 8 games which was the limit of what could be afforded in the circumstances. MB has had a cracking 1 game, that we were all desperate for and happy to celebrate. I hope he goes on to make a difference that lasts, and will be right behind him in this. But it's only 1 game and we have to be realistic. It is very easy to criticise Macca, Burr, Young our CEO, but any criticism to be worth expressing should be constructive, helpful and avoid the personal. In this the likes of Whopper 3 et al fail. The likes of Anders et el succeed. Thankfully we have many more constructive fans that the ridiculous trolls. Great Post
|
|
|
Post by shango on Sept 25, 2017 7:43:43 GMT
shango / thetheremin I have only ever named 2 people who I consider incompetent. One has been sacked. The other will follow soon hopefully. Not a word about the great performance yesterday, you must be absolutely gutted we won. Like i've said before captain he only sing's when were losing,siiiiing's when were looosing:)
|
|
|
Post by bing on Sept 25, 2017 7:54:46 GMT
Not a word about the great performance yesterday, you must be absolutely gutted we won. Like i've said before captain he only sing's when were losing,siiiiing's when were looosing:) Didn't turn up for the free pre-match drinks I promised him. Didn't even message me. Strange - as a staunch volunteer of the club several days a week you would have thought he'd be up for that.
|
|
|
Post by thetheremin on Sept 25, 2017 8:27:39 GMT
shango / thetheremin I have only ever named 2 people who I consider incompetent. One has been sacked. The other will follow soon hopefully. What a misery guts you are. You can't be a real fan. No way. You certainly can't have been around during the Barnes/Guterman/Smith/Vaughan years.
|
|
|
Post by rcb on Sept 25, 2017 8:52:35 GMT
I must admit some amusement at the incompetent tag so freely aimed at Macca. In the end he didn't have the necessary abilities to manage Chester at this level. As a fan owned club I am glad he got all the chances we should afford to a manager. Let's remember he got the job on he back if some excellent results to ensure we didn't get relegated and then got the team up to 7th, way ahead of our expectations. The long run without a home win and the slide down the table was horrible, but there was a sense that injuries in such a small squad were seriously contributing. The jury was out for much of this time on whether Sharpe was the reason for our success. The jury is in now in and we can, on the balance of probabilities say it was Sharps who made the difference. Macca deserved the chance to put together a new team and many, me included thought a good close season team development would make the difference. It didn't. He lasted 8 games which was the limit of what could be afforded in the circumstances. MB has had a cracking 1 game, that we were all desperate for and happy to celebrate. I hope he goes on to make a difference that lasts, and will be right behind him in this. But it's only 1 game and we have to be realistic. It is very easy to criticise Macca, Burr, Young our CEO, but any criticism to be worth expressing should be constructive, helpful and avoid the personal. In this the likes of Whopper 3 et al fail. The likes of Anders et el succeed. Thankfully we have many more constructive fans that the ridiculous trolls. I believe McCarthy's appointment was only done because he was the cheap option. At least we didn't fall into the same trap this time with Tom Shaw, so lesson learned. Perhaps the vocal displeasure over an extended period delivered a necessary message to the Board. I am disappointed to read McCarthy and Young mentioned above in the same sentence. Neil Young was a decent and honourable man who early on realised his limitations and left by mutual consent, to the benefit of the club. McCarthy, on the other hand, had his own financial self interest at heart, and dragged the club back to a point where we were before he ever took over. I found that easy to say, because getting him out will prove the most constructive thing to have happened to the club in two years. In a crisis results are all important, whether achieved by fair means or foul, unfortunately offending a certain faction of fans in this case. If you ever doubt the need to get rid of JM just recall that Hudson was his greatest signing. Interesting too that Hudson felt the manner of his departure showed no class by McCarthy.
|
|
|
Post by bing on Sept 25, 2017 9:16:15 GMT
I must admit some amusement at the incompetent tag so freely aimed at Macca. In the end he didn't have the necessary abilities to manage Chester at this level. As a fan owned club I am glad he got all the chances we should afford to a manager. Let's remember he got the job on he back if some excellent results to ensure we didn't get relegated and then got the team up to 7th, way ahead of our expectations. The long run without a home win and the slide down the table was horrible, but there was a sense that injuries in such a small squad were seriously contributing. The jury was out for much of this time on whether Sharpe was the reason for our success. The jury is in now in and we can, on the balance of probabilities say it was Sharps who made the difference. Macca deserved the chance to put together a new team and many, me included thought a good close season team development would make the difference. It didn't. He lasted 8 games which was the limit of what could be afforded in the circumstances. MB has had a cracking 1 game, that we were all desperate for and happy to celebrate. I hope he goes on to make a difference that lasts, and will be right behind him in this. But it's only 1 game and we have to be realistic. It is very easy to criticise Macca, Burr, Young our CEO, but any criticism to be worth expressing should be constructive, helpful and avoid the personal. In this the likes of Whopper 3 et al fail. The likes of Anders et el succeed. Thankfully we have many more constructive fans that the ridiculous trolls. I believe McCarthy's appointment was only done because he was the cheap option. At least we didn't fall into the same trap this time with Tom Shaw, so lesson learned. Perhaps the vocal displeasure over an extended period delivered a necessary message to the Board. I am disappointed to read McCarthy and Young mentioned above in the same sentence. Neil Young was a decent and honourable man who early on realised his limitations and left by mutual consent, to the benefit of the club. McCarthy, on the other hand, had his own financial self interest at heart, and dragged the club back to a point where we were before he ever took over. I found that easy to say, because getting him out will prove the most constructive thing to have happened to the club in two years. In a crisis results are all important, whether achieved by fair means or foul, unfortunately offending a certain faction of fans in this case. If you ever doubt the need to get rid of JM just recall that Hudson was his greatest signing. Interesting too that Hudson felt the manner of his departure showed no class by McCarthy. Can't agree with this. McCarthy took over the last few games of the season and helped to save us from relegation. We hammered one team at home and everyone could see an upturn in our game. I believe he wasn't afraid to work beyond normal hours, unlike Steve Burr - so whereas as was probably a cheaper option, the performances on the pitch and hiss efforts off it made him the obvious choice in my eyes. I don't want to sound like a McCarthy apologist - it was certainly the right time for him to go - but you could argue that him wanting to stay and sort out the mess was the honourable thing to do. If he was only interested in himself, surely he would want to be sacked? Anyway, back to the title of the thread. The pleasing thing for me after Saturday is that our squad clearly isn't quite as bad as some of us thought. Saturday will be tough and I realise there will be tougher tests ahead - but Bignot's arrival has given us the shot in the arm we needed and you could sense that some of the players were playing with more freedom - trying to win the game rather than trying not to lose it.
|
|
|
Post by rcb on Sept 25, 2017 9:24:36 GMT
I believe McCarthy's appointment was only done because he was the cheap option. At least we didn't fall into the same trap this time with Tom Shaw, so lesson learned. Perhaps the vocal displeasure over an extended period delivered a necessary message to the Board. I am disappointed to read McCarthy and Young mentioned above in the same sentence. Neil Young was a decent and honourable man who early on realised his limitations and left by mutual consent, to the benefit of the club. McCarthy, on the other hand, had his own financial self interest at heart, and dragged the club back to a point where we were before he ever took over. I found that easy to say, because getting him out will prove the most constructive thing to have happened to the club in two years. In a crisis results are all important, whether achieved by fair means or foul, unfortunately offending a certain faction of fans in this case. If you ever doubt the need to get rid of JM just recall that Hudson was his greatest signing. Interesting too that Hudson felt the manner of his departure showed no class by McCarthy. Can't agree with this. McCarthy took over the last few games of the season and helped to save us from relegation. We hammered one team at home and everyone could see an upturn in our game. I believe he wasn't afraid to work beyond normal hours, unlike Steve Burr - so whereas as was probably a cheaper option, the performances on the pitch and hiss efforts off it made him the obvious choice in my eyes. I don't want to sound like a McCarthy apologist - it was certainly the right time for him to go - but you could argue that him wanting to stay and sort out the mess was the honourable thing to do. If he was only interested in himself, surely he would want to be sacked? Anyway, back to the title of the thread. The pleasing thing for me after Saturday is that our squad clearly isn't quite as bad as some of us thought. Saturday will be tough and I realise there will be tougher tests ahead - but Bignot's arrival has given us the shot in the arm we needed and you could sense that some of the players were playing with more freedom - trying to win the game rather than trying not to lose it. I agree with your last paragraph.
|
|
|
Post by whopper3 on Sept 25, 2017 17:57:37 GMT
The incompetent Maguire will go. It is just a matter of when.
How dare I speak my mind on here ?
Ban him !
LOL
|
|
|
Post by everhopeful on Sept 25, 2017 18:27:27 GMT
The incompetent Maguire will go. It is just a matter of when. How dare I speak my mind on here ? Ban him ! LOL The troll returns. You obviously haven't got a mind to speak! All you want to do is try and destroy a reputation and upset all the DECENT supporters who are on here supporting the blues. Now slink back to your real love, the goats down the road.
|
|
|
Post by bing on Sept 25, 2017 18:29:37 GMT
The incompetent Maguire will go. It is just a matter of when. How dare I speak my mind on here ? Ban him ! LOL Whenever you leave your latest quote about being "incompetent" (I can almost hear your friends sniggering like the schoolboys they most likely are when you use that word), no one on here values your opinion as you've been found out time and time again for being a WUM.
|
|
|
Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Sept 25, 2017 18:52:03 GMT
If Macguire is incompetent heaven knows what smith, Vaughan and gutterman would be? Bing if you've got cash burning a hole in your pocket then I would enjoy a pre match cold one if whooper won't give you the courtesy of his company π
|
|
|
Post by whopper3 on Sept 25, 2017 20:00:47 GMT
bing
and you have been found out to be a boring repetitive git !
|
|
|
Post by Firestick Frank on Sept 25, 2017 20:33:46 GMT
To be fair the last manager was proven to be incompetent. I wouldn't know about Maguire though until the figures are released at the AGM.
|
|
|
Post by Oaks Blue on Sept 25, 2017 21:10:00 GMT
Seriously guys, I've blocked whopper 3 and I'm trying to ignore his posts. You lot quoting him is just promoting his nonsense even more as I can now see his wittering...
Please stop quoting and lowering yourselves to his level
|
|
|
Post by Si on Sept 25, 2017 21:29:06 GMT
Seriously guys, I've blocked whopper 3 and I'm trying to ignore his posts. You lot quoting him is just promoting his nonsense even more as I can now see his wittering... Please stop quoting and lowering yourselves to his level Exactly. People replying is just what he wants. Ignore him!
|
|
|
Post by bing on Sept 25, 2017 21:52:39 GMT
Fair point. I didn't know you could block someone, so I'll do that.
SWLP - I'm actually very stingy with buying rounds. It was just a ruse to blow apart his volunteer story
|
|
|
Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Sept 25, 2017 22:29:41 GMT
I know. Was just a bit of light hearted fun amidst the general on going whooper nonsense. It's certainly questionable that he is one of our volunteers.
|
|
|
Post by thetheremin on Sept 26, 2017 7:05:08 GMT
bing and you have been found out to be a boring repetitive git ! whopper3 = goat In my opinion and I'm just exercising my right to free speech in our free society
|
|
|
Post by thetheremin on Sept 26, 2017 9:59:27 GMT
|
|