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Post by bonecrusher on Feb 12, 2017 15:52:19 GMT
Its not freefall (yet) just a poor run of form.
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Post by Jack on Feb 12, 2017 16:53:26 GMT
If you truly can't see what Jon McCarthy is doing here and the leaps we've made this season, then you're choosing to ignore it and are actively seeking the negatives.
We've been brilliant this year. I cant help but cringe when I read people questioning JM's new deal and talking about a relegation scrap, some people really need to get a grip of themselves. We got it wrong yesterday, before that we'd played really well against two good sides and unfortunately lost.
This team will regroup and bounce back, we'll win at Maidstone and have a decent end to the season.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Feb 12, 2017 16:58:26 GMT
Lost a game have we? Every team has a hard patch, and it's our turn unfortunately. We have some winnable games coming up, and we need to 100% back the lads. The least we can do is just be negative. Macca has signed a new contract for a reason. We are in safe hands.
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Post by sirfred on Feb 12, 2017 17:06:41 GMT
But our freefall started against Solihull and has culminated in 6 defeats from 8 games it's not just yesterday- as I said it's the way we are playing with no ambition with a solitary striker and sitting deep inviting teams to attack us and relying on aimless hoofs without being able to play it out of defence.Yesms that visit the Deva play it around have width and shape- look if we suddenly start clicking again then I will hold my hands up and eat humble pie but I've been watching football long enough to see that this team is not good enough and it's now telling-the lack of player strengthening at the critical time is proving costly and I can't see where the next point is coming from to be honest
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Post by daz on Feb 12, 2017 17:08:10 GMT
Lost a game have we? Every team has a hard patch, and it's our turn unfortunately. We have some winnable games coming up, and we need to 100% back the lads. The least we can do is just be negative. Macca has signed a new contract for a reason. We are in safe hands. What is this reason then ? I can't think what it could possibly be |
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Post by whopper1 on Feb 12, 2017 17:11:11 GMT
Lost a game have we? Every team has a hard patch, and it's our turn unfortunately. We have some winnable games coming up, and we need to 100% back the lads. The least we can do is just be negative. Macca has signed a new contract for a reason. We are in safe hands. we've picked up 4 points out of a possible 21 points last 7 games which is dreadful |
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Post by Rio Doherty on Feb 12, 2017 17:11:37 GMT
He buys into our ethos, sticks with the same group of players and is making us a good team who give 100%, although we never yesterday. I believe he can make us a force in the next few years. I think that may be the reason.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Feb 12, 2017 17:12:42 GMT
Lost a game have we? Every team has a hard patch, and it's our turn unfortunately. We have some winnable games coming up, and we need to 100% back the lads. The least we can do is just be negative. Macca has signed a new contract for a reason. We are in safe hands. we've picked up 4 points out of a possible 21 points last 7 games which is dreadful It is dreadful but we just need to get out of this and play like we did before new year. |
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Post by sirfred on Feb 12, 2017 18:00:08 GMT
we've picked up 4 points out of a possible 21 points last 7 games which is dreadful It is dreadful but we just need to get out of this and play like we did before new year. Rio I respect your enthusiasm and love of the Club it's great to see and I could aim absolutely no criticism to that - it's just watching Chester over many years as I have wears you down and it takes its toll it's frustrating to see us promise so much and just capitulate at crucial times - if since Christmas we had even average form we could have been in for an exciting season and for me the January windows of opportunity to bring in fresh blood was a big mistake as now there is nothing to play for and the attendances will fall even lower- new players inject something and the existing players step up there game as there is competition - a team can only be judged on its form over a full season not the first few months and for whatever reason they are just not performing - can you honestly say yesrdays line up will beat Maidstone Barrow and Tranmere? |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Feb 12, 2017 18:00:19 GMT
No, we've lost six games in eight. |
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Post by Quaker on Feb 12, 2017 18:24:28 GMT
My biggest concern is our scouting. It is obvious we didn't really have an awareness in January on what was about or what we could get.
If we were to lose key players in the summer then who is identifying the people to replace them and take us forward.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Feb 12, 2017 18:38:15 GMT
It is dreadful but we just need to get out of this and play like we did before new year. Rio I respect your enthusiasm and love of the Club it's great to see and I could aim absolutely no criticism to that - it's just watching Chester over many years as I have wears you down and it takes its toll it's frustrating to see us promise so much and just capitulate at crucial times - if since Christmas we had even average form we could have been in for an exciting season and for me the January windows of opportunity to bring in fresh blood was a big mistake as now there is nothing to play for and the attendances will fall even lower- new players inject something and the existing players step up there game as there is competition - a team can only be judged on its form over a full season not the first few months and for whatever reason they are just not performing - can you honestly say yesrdays line up will beat Maidstone Barrow and Tranmere? I respect your point Fred. I admit that Macca got it wrong yesterday and I could think of a better team than that. It is a pain that we only signed one player on loan who hasn't started yet. Our squad is one of the smallest in the league. |
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Post by Si on Feb 12, 2017 21:57:53 GMT
I do think Macca has something to prove in terms of recruitment. There is no doubting his man management as he's improved all the players from last season, but his record of recruiting is a little bit and miss. Let's not forget he is a rookie manager and will learn just as much from this poor spell as he did when we were flying.
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Post by durdy on Feb 13, 2017 8:35:49 GMT
Most of the fans I speak to mirror the limited ambition of the club, they actually wish we were in the conference North as there would be more local derby's and hence larger crowds and more revenue and unfortunately I tend to agree with them,short term success is not everything for a fans owned club financial stability is more important
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Post by waggoner2 on Feb 13, 2017 9:27:57 GMT
Things aren't great at the moment and the wheels do seem to be slipping off but we're not getting hammered and for large parts of games we are competing and only losing by the odd goal. I do agree that lynch didn't deserve to get benched and I probably feel better with him in goal. And the other downside is players playing out of position when they don't need to. Let's just go back to basics like we did when we were on that great run. Take it game by game and try to start getting some more points on the board. Dreading the tranmere game though at the moment! I said a while ago that we would struggle in the end. Not because we are a poor side but because of the small squad we have. Long term injuries and suspensions have hit us hard. This is right when we have been playing teams near the top or bang in form.with such a small squad we do not have cover for players who are out of form, as a result we play people out of position. No worries we are ok but we do need to look at the health of the squad for next season and get rid of the players who are not up to this level |
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Post by North London Blue on Feb 13, 2017 11:27:04 GMT
Some short memories on here, who was at the Dagenham game last week?
Despite the defeat, that was the best I have seen a Chester team play for years. We absolutely murdered them for large parts of the game and were very unlucky to lose the game.
Yes we did lose, and we are in a bad run of form, but to criticise the style of play is a mistake I think, when McCarthy gets the tactics right - which clearly he didn't yesterday - we are playing some great football.
Having said that, we now need to pick up some points in the next few weeks against some of the lower teams, starting on Saturday at Maidstone.
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Post by Dodge on Feb 13, 2017 13:49:12 GMT
Some short memories on here, who was at the Dagenham game last week? Despite the defeat, that was the best I have seen a Chester team play for years. We absolutely murdered them for large parts of the game and were very unlucky to lose the game. Yes we did lose, and we are in a bad run of form, but to criticise the style of play is a mistake I think, when McCarthy gets the tactics right - which clearly he didn't yesterday - we are playing some great football. Having said that, we now need to pick up some points in the next few weeks against some of the lower teams, starting on Saturday at Maidstone. This is the problem, we've been poor at home recently (Solihull, FGR and Gateshead) so the home contingent and the hardcore who saw the good displays at Braintree, Dover and Dagenham will have very different perspectives on this current run. People have written this team off a number of times this season and have been proven wrong, and I'm confident they'll be proven wrong again soon. |
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Post by btb on Feb 13, 2017 14:18:28 GMT
Some short memories on here, who was at the Dagenham game last week? Despite the defeat, that was the best I have seen a Chester team play for years. We absolutely murdered them for large parts of the game and were very unlucky to lose the game. Yes we did lose, and we are in a bad run of form, but to criticise the style of play is a mistake I think, when McCarthy gets the tactics right - which clearly he didn't yesterday - we are playing some great football. Having said that, we now need to pick up some points in the next few weeks against some of the lower teams, starting on Saturday at Maidstone. I didn't go to Dagenham but by all accounts we were superb and very unlucky to come away with nothing. I think JM did get our tactics right in the first half on Saturday. He flooded the midfield and we always had one more player than them in the centre of the the field, but Vassells injury changed everything. Gateshead probably also made changes to their shape and our plan b was woeful unfortunately. but give me a manager who is at least trying to out smart our opponents, rather than a manager who's idea is to sign a team full of loan players and just hope for the best come Saturday afternoon. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 15:14:51 GMT
Most of the fans I speak to mirror the limited ambition of the club, they actually wish we were in the conference North as there would be more local derby's and hence larger crowds and more revenue and unfortunately I tend to agree with them,short term success is not everything for a fans owned club financial stability is more important Bigger local derbies than Wrexham and Tranmere don't exist for us? More likely that Crewe also be down in next 2/3 years. Not even in the Conference North. Fan owned stability is everything, but optimism is also the birth right of any football fans. I am optimistic McCarthy is getting it right long term, despite the budget and political challenges managing a former Football League supporter owned club throws up. |
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Post by sirfred on Feb 18, 2017 17:08:27 GMT
Its not freefall (yet) just a poor run of form. If this is not freefall then what is it 4 Straight defeats 6 defeats from 8 - 4 points from a possible 24 and 1 win since Christmas - it's shambolic and Maidstone were in bottom 4 - Macca Contract was too hasty I'm telling you I can't see this team getting the next win we have conceded 12 goals in last 4 games What a massive let down and I'm getting worried we will be sacked into a relegation dog fight- that's what you get when you don't strengthen your squad when every other team does! |
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Post by Hoff Side on Feb 18, 2017 17:52:56 GMT
Quite a few of our squad are not good enough for this level and I'm beginning to worry that Macca isn't either. I tend to agree with sirfred that the Macca contract was offered a bit too early.
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Post by Flapper on Feb 18, 2017 18:34:30 GMT
Quite a few of our squad are not good enough for this level and I'm beginning to worry that Macca isn't either. I tend to agree with sirfred that the Macca contract was offered a bit too early. It's what you get with a bottom six budget. We need a magician to match some of our supporters expectations. Personally I prefer league below we have always done well in it |
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Post by bonecrusher on Feb 18, 2017 19:08:48 GMT
Its not freefall (yet) just a poor run of form. If this is not freefall then what is it 4 Straight defeats 6 defeats from 8 - 4 points from a possible 24 and 1 win since Christmas - it's shambolic and Maidstone were in bottom 4 - Macca Contract was too hasty I'm telling you I can't see this team getting the next win we have conceded 12 goals in last 4 games What a massive let down and I'm getting worried we will be sacked into a relegation dog fight- that's what you get when you don't strengthen your squad when every other team does! It might be freefall this week... |
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Post by billyw on Feb 18, 2017 19:15:43 GMT
Quite a few of our squad are not good enough for this level and I'm beginning to worry that Macca isn't either. I tend to agree with sirfred that the Macca contract was offered a bit too early. It's what you get with a bottom six budget. We need a magician to match some of our supporters expectations. Personally I prefer league below we have always done well in it Strange to prefer to be in the National League North - 'we have always done well in it' - we only spent one season in it. |
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Post by ctid on Feb 18, 2017 19:18:53 GMT
Don't worry Macca has offered all the average players new deals!!
So don't expect next season's squad to look much different
This continuity obsession he has needs to stop
Can't he see there is 4/5 players that aren't good enough and we could go out and get better
Next season be very similar squad and a mid to lower table finish
Zero progression year after year
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Post by marner93 on Feb 18, 2017 19:40:20 GMT
Yes I'd say on form we are now in freefall.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 20:09:08 GMT
Is this not typical of Chester in January and February?
We'll be fine
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Post by Deva93 on Feb 19, 2017 11:49:32 GMT
That mind the gap thing has been a curse.
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Post by massivefloodlights on Feb 19, 2017 13:24:04 GMT
That mind the gap thing has been a curse. 😂😂😂 megalolz |
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Post by Buckley Blue on Feb 19, 2017 15:09:10 GMT
Aye but it was proper good fun while it lasted :-)
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