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Post by Derry Blue on Dec 3, 2017 8:40:07 GMT
Don't do that, cheer us up ... if you can, lol. I don’t think Peter Kay could cheer some of these lot up Hannibal, I think some of them should just sod off and support Man Utd or Liverpool. Yes, because we only want fans like you. Anyone who doesn't fit your image of what a Chester fan should be doesn't belong. Be gone you non-chesterken types. All hail chesterken, fan supreme.
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Post by tarvinblue on Dec 3, 2017 8:43:26 GMT
The Barrow love-in is embarassing. Achieved nothing as a manager since 1994 but some on here seem to think he is some kind of saviour. Jon McCarthy sounded like he knew what he was talking about at times. I've sat at CFU meetings where, if you hadn't been aware of his track record, you'd have thought he was an incredible manager. Bignot has inherited a shambles from JM and is having to beg, steal and borrow to try and change personnel. When you have to operate like that it's not always going to work out. You pay nothing and you can generally expect nothing in return. All we can do is get behind him and accept that he is doing what he can within a challenging set of circumstances. However, I do share the concern that, rather than constantly looking for strikers, he needs to be bringing in a centre back and a winger.
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Post by billyw on Dec 3, 2017 8:47:28 GMT
Still going on about a man who didn’t even apply. Jesus, turn it in. Jeez how many times - Barrow DID apply and WAS interviewed. FACT.
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Post by shango on Dec 3, 2017 9:23:33 GMT
How do you know he applied for a fact?Only ask as i know 2 families that go home and away and regularly volunteer and they dont know if he did or not.I thought they might have an idea especially as they help out at least once a week. Anyway it's all hypothetical bs as to what he would or wouldnt do.
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Post by Hannibal on Dec 3, 2017 9:46:55 GMT
I've been having some banter with Orient fans on another forum. It's cheered me up no end. They're looking at their 3rd consecutive relegation and haven't won for nearly 3 months. They do have reasons to be cheerful and they're treating it all as a bit of self-flagellation. Us only the other hand don't have much to joke about as we're unlikely to get past 35 points. We have reasons to be cheerful the main one being that we have a football club to support albeit not doing very well at the moment. What would we be doing had we not gone fan owned at least we have a future and that's another reason to be cheerful. All teams get relegated at some time then bounce back If you feel cheerful well done, but don't speak for others. We are a shambles because we are a professional football club run by amateurs. I don't feel cheerful because I'm one of the unfortunates that has witnessed both our 4-0 defeats in which once we went a goal down we folded. I might feel cheerful if I saw some leadership both on and off the pitch and I don't include MB in that criticism. He inherited one of the worst squad I've seen in 57 years following Chester FC.
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Post by southernblue on Dec 3, 2017 9:55:30 GMT
Couldn’t get in front of the TV last night I was out and about so listened to Fylde v Wigan on Radio Manchester. Graham Barrow was the match co-commentator/summariser. Bignot must have put in some interview to beat him to the job! His knowledge of Fylde and the Conference was extremely impressive but his understanding of the game and what should and shouldn’t happen was even more so. He called it perfectly, analytically, tactically and understood the game from start to finish. A very impressive intuitive contribution Sorry, but somehow I think we (Mr MaGuire) made an error on this appointment, bit like McCarthy’s massive contract. It was an enormous mistake to let Barrow slip through our fingers, nothing to do with sentiment. He has nouse, experience, tactical knowledge and commands respect. I can't see that we would have had the ever changing shapelessness, panic substitutions and formation changes we are seeing under Bignot. Whilst Bignot has passion and enthusiasm, his forceful attitude has been known to wear thin and alienate the senior players. The cracks are beginning to appear sooner than I expected. John Still was managing when Bignot was in nappies, and on Saturday it showed. Experience has trumped freshness. Perhaps next time, the younger fans like Rio would do well to listen to the older fans who have been around the block and have enough wisdom to call these things. Barrow would have been exactly the steady ship that we desperately need right now to steer us through choppy waters.
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Post by billyw on Dec 3, 2017 9:55:44 GMT
How do you know he applied for a fact?Only ask as i know 2 families that go home and away and regularly volunteer and they dont know if he did or not.I thought they might have an idea especially as they help out at least once a week. Anyway it's all hypothetical bs as to what he would or wouldnt do. I give up. HE WAS INTERVIEWED. FACT. although it was not a very long interview. Please yourself whether you want to believe it or not, - as the appointment has been made, it is irrelevant anyway.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Dec 3, 2017 10:00:32 GMT
We have reasons to be cheerful the main one being that we have a football club to support albeit not doing very well at the moment. What would we be doing had we not gone fan owned at least we have a future and that's another reason to be cheerful. All teams get relegated at some time then bounce back If you feel cheerful well done, but don't speak for others. We are a shambles because we are a professional football club run by amateurs. I don't feel cheerful because I'm one of the unfortunates that has witnessed both our 4-0 defeats in which once we went a goal down we folded. I might feel cheerful if I saw some leadership both on and off the pitch and I don't include MB in that criticism. He inherited one of the worst squad I've seen in 57 years following Chester FC. For one thing I was not speaking for others I was replying to your comment re Orient fans being cheerful at their demise. As for being run by amateurs of course we are we are a Fan Owned club with a board of unpaid volunteers which by definition means Amateurs. If we hadnt done what we did then your 57 years as a supporter would habve stopped at 51 as would have mine. As for the squad being the worst in that 57 years you may well be right but what can we do about it hopefully MB will turn it around unless of course you would prefer a Sugar Daddy which I for one dont
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Post by southernblue on Dec 3, 2017 10:02:02 GMT
Graham Barrow..... What is the obsession? Time to get over him, move on. Move on where? To the National League North at this rate.
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Post by Lobster on Dec 3, 2017 10:05:45 GMT
Couldn’t get in front of the TV last night I was out and about so listened to Fylde v Wigan on Radio Manchester. Graham Barrow was the match co-commentator/summariser. Bignot must have put in some interview to beat him to the job! His knowledge of Fylde and the Conference was extremely impressive but his understanding of the game and what should and shouldn’t happen was even more so. He called it perfectly, analytically, tactically and understood the game from start to finish. A very impressive intuitive contribution Sorry, but somehow I think we (Mr MaGuire) made an error on this appointment, bit like McCarthy’s massive contract. It was an enormous mistake to let Barrow slip through our fingers, nothing to do with sentiment. He has nouse, experience, tactical knowledge and commands respect. I can't see that we would have had the ever changing shapelessness, panic substitutions and formation changes we are seeing under Bignot. Whilst Bignot has passion and enthusiasm, his forceful attitude has been known to wear thin and alienate the senior players. The cracks are beginning to appear sooner than I expected. John Still was managing when Bignot was in nappies, and on Saturday it showed. Experience has trumped freshness. Perhaps next time, the younger fans like Rio would do well to listen to the older fans who have been around the block and have enough wisdom to call these things. Barrow would have been exactly the steady ship that we desperately need right now to steer us through choppy waters. That is a shockingly patronising attitude. Typical "baby boomer" stuff. "I'm older than you so I'm right" It's because of the decision making of your generation that the world is so f**ked at the moment.
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Dec 3, 2017 10:07:35 GMT
The Barrow love-in is embarassing. Achieved nothing as a manager since 1994 but some on here seem to think he is some kind of saviour. Jon McCarthy sounded like he knew what he was talking about at times. I've sat at CFU meetings where, if you hadn't been aware of his track record, you'd have thought he was an incredible manager. Bignot has inherited a shambles from JM and is having to beg, steal and borrow to try and change personnel. When you have to operate like that it's not always going to work out. You pay nothing and you can generally expect nothing in return. All we can do is get behind him and accept that he is doing what he can within a challenging set of circumstances. However, I do share the concern that, rather than constantly looking for strikers, he needs to be bringing in a centre back and a winger. Won nothing since 1994? Only the FA Cup and 3 promotions with Wigan.............okay as Coach/Asst Manager but that’s far from achieved “nothing”. Martinez didn’t do too well at Everton without him did he? And he offered him a job there. But you’re right why would we want a love in with him, ex manager, coach, player, captain and all round top football Man who is as well as all that very loyal and has hugely fond memories of Chester. Now then lets compare Barrows CV with Bignots and you tell me the interviews weren’t rigged? Probably by MaGuire. In the Operations Board we trust? Heaven help us..........
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Post by Captain Duff on Dec 3, 2017 10:21:03 GMT
Now then lets compare Barrows CV with Bignots and you tell me the interviews weren’t rigged? Probably by MaGuire. In the Operations Board we trust? Heaven help us.......... There you go again, accusation follows accusation, follows accusation but never ever with any facts or evidence to back them up. You really are a nasty piece of work aren't you.
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Post by tarvinblue on Dec 3, 2017 10:29:05 GMT
The Barrow love-in is embarassing. Achieved nothing as a manager since 1994 but some on here seem to think he is some kind of saviour. Jon McCarthy sounded like he knew what he was talking about at times. I've sat at CFU meetings where, if you hadn't been aware of his track record, you'd have thought he was an incredible manager. Bignot has inherited a shambles from JM and is having to beg, steal and borrow to try and change personnel. When you have to operate like that it's not always going to work out. You pay nothing and you can generally expect nothing in return. All we can do is get behind him and accept that he is doing what he can within a challenging set of circumstances. However, I do share the concern that, rather than constantly looking for strikers, he needs to be bringing in a centre back and a winger. Won nothing since 1994? Only the FA Cup and 3 promotions with Wigan.............okay as Coach/Asst Manager but that’s far from achieved “nothing”. Martinez didn’t do too well at Everton without him did he? And he offered him a job there. But you’re right why would we want a love in with him, ex manager, coach, player, captain and all round top football Man who is as well as all that very loyal and has hugely fond memories of Chester. Now then lets compare Barrows CV with Bignots and you tell me the interviews weren’t rigged? Probably by MaGuire. In the Operations Board we trust? Heaven help us.......... He's achieved nothing as a manager since 94. The role of assistant is very different from the role of manager as JM found out. He had a spell here in the early noughties which hardly saw him build on his 'legendary' status and he's just been sacked by Chesterfield for leading them to the bottom of League 2 as assistant. If his impact is as great as you suggest within that role then I would suggest that is a worrying endorsement. People need to take off their rose-tinted glasses. The 'all round nice guy' argument is why we were stuck with JM for as long as we were. Too many supporters and board members bought into that as being a sole indicator of success. I am no fan of MM or the operations board but I would suggest the whole fallacy that it was rigged is a little embarassing. To me, most of the people crying for Barrow are Senior Blues who would have loved a monthly get together with Barrow to reminisce about 'the good old days'.
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Post by Hannibal on Dec 3, 2017 10:33:33 GMT
If you feel cheerful well done, but don't speak for others. We are a shambles because we are a professional football club run by amateurs. I don't feel cheerful because I'm one of the unfortunates that has witnessed both our 4-0 defeats in which once we went a goal down we folded. I might feel cheerful if I saw some leadership both on and off the pitch and I don't include MB in that criticism. He inherited one of the worst squad I've seen in 57 years following Chester FC. For one thing I was not speaking for others I was replying to your comment re Orient fans being cheerful at their demise. As for being run by amateurs of course we are we are a Fan Owned club with a board of unpaid volunteers which by definition means Amateurs. If we hadnt done what we did then your 57 years as a supporter would habve stopped at 51 as would have mine. As for the squad being the worst in that 57 years you may well be right but what can we do about it hopefully MB will turn it around unless of course you would prefer a Sugar Daddy which I for one dont I don't think you understood my point Wortley Blue. Orient fans can afford to have gallows humour about their situation because they have one of the best grounds in the league, a very loyal fanbase of between 3,500 and 4,000, not to mention money to spend and it will eventually come right for them. We on the other hand gave one of the worst managers we've ever had a crippling contract extension and allowed him to spend all the money we received for Sam Hughes on journeymen footballers (not to mention releasing Durrell who is having a fantastic season at Macclesfield). I'm only a fan, but Durrell would certainly have been retained by me. McCarthy couldn't man manage him, but our loss is Macclesfield's gain. Even though the board are fans they bear no resemblance to the leaders we had at the Guildhall back in 2009.
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Post by g1 on Dec 3, 2017 11:00:31 GMT
For one thing I was not speaking for others I was replying to your comment re Orient fans being cheerful at their demise. As for being run by amateurs of course we are we are a Fan Owned club with a board of unpaid volunteers which by definition means Amateurs. If we hadnt done what we did then your 57 years as a supporter would habve stopped at 51 as would have mine. As for the squad being the worst in that 57 years you may well be right but what can we do about it hopefully MB will turn it around unless of course you would prefer a Sugar Daddy which I for one dont I don't think you understood my point Wortley Blue. Orient fans can afford to have gallows humour about their situation because they have one of the best grounds in the league, a very loyal fanbase of between 3,500 and 4,000, not to mention money to spend and it will eventually come right for them. We on the other hand gave one of the worst managers we've ever had a crippling contract extension and allowed him to spend all the money we received for Sam Hughes on journeymen footballers (not to mention releasing Durrell who is having a fantastic season at Macclesfield). I'm only a fan, but Durrell would certainly have been retained by me. McCarthy couldn't man manage him, but our loss is Macclesfield's gain. Even though the board are fans they bear no resemblance to the leaders we had at the Guildhall back in 2009. ah another Durrell fan I am not alone one player whilst not great could make something happen
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Post by Wortleyblue on Dec 3, 2017 11:14:34 GMT
For one thing I was not speaking for others I was replying to your comment re Orient fans being cheerful at their demise. As for being run by amateurs of course we are we are a Fan Owned club with a board of unpaid volunteers which by definition means Amateurs. If we hadnt done what we did then your 57 years as a supporter would habve stopped at 51 as would have mine. As for the squad being the worst in that 57 years you may well be right but what can we do about it hopefully MB will turn it around unless of course you would prefer a Sugar Daddy which I for one dont I don't think you understood my point Wortley Blue. Orient fans can afford to have gallows humour about their situation because they have one of the best grounds in the league, a very loyal fanbase of between 3,500 and 4,000, not to mention money to spend and it will eventually come right for them. We on the other hand gave one of the worst managers we've ever had a crippling contract extension and allowed him to spend all the money we received for Sam Hughes on journeymen footballers (not to mention releasing Durrell who is having a fantastic season at Macclesfield). I'm only a fan, but Durrell would certainly have been retained by me. McCarthy couldn't man manage him, but our loss is Macclesfield's gain. Even though the board are fans they bear no resemblance to the leaders we had at the Guildhall back in 2009. Admittedley we dont have Orients ground fan base or money but how long will that last if they dont turn it round and go down although they probably will turn it round. Yes we have made mistakes particularly with JM but at the time I was happy with the contract extension as were most unfortunately it turned out wrong but hey hindsight is a great thing. As for not getting rid at the end of last season was a huge error on behalf of the board but who knows maybe they were looking at the finances at the time and didnt fancy a big pay off. Who would be a board member they get nothing but flak when things arent going well yet they have the same wish for the club as we all do and thats success its a wonder we have any board members at all and lets face it not many people are prepaired to put themselves forward are they. How many candidates were there at the last board elections not that many considering the amount of experts we have in our fanbase
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Post by trev on Dec 3, 2017 11:24:49 GMT
Won nothing since 1994? Only the FA Cup and 3 promotions with Wigan.............okay as Coach/Asst Manager but that’s far from achieved “nothing”. Martinez didn’t do too well at Everton without him did he? And he offered him a job there. But you’re right why would we want a love in with him, ex manager, coach, player, captain and all round top football Man who is as well as all that very loyal and has hugely fond memories of Chester. Now then lets compare Barrows CV with Bignots and you tell me the interviews weren’t rigged? Probably by MaGuire. In the Operations Board we trust? Heaven help us.......... He's achieved nothing as a manager since 94. The role of assistant is very different from the role of manager as JM found out. He had a spell here in the early noughties which hardly saw him build on his 'legendary' status and he's just been sacked by Chesterfield for leading them to the bottom of League 2 as assistant. If his impact is as great as you suggest within that role then I would suggest that is a worrying endorsement. People need to take off their rose-tinted glasses. The 'all round nice guy' argument is why we were stuck with JM for as long as we were. Too many supporters and board members bought into that as being a sole indicator of success. I am no fan of MM or the operations board but I would suggest the whole fallacy that it was rigged is a little embarassing. To me, most of the people crying for Barrow are Senior Blues who would have loved a monthly get together with Barrow to reminisce about 'the good old days'.
In my view Barrow, being of CFC legendary Status, would have been a popular choice for many (including myself), but I have reluctantly accepted that he must now considered to be yesterday’s man given it was decades ago since he was here as manager and things have drastically changed, while his career over the last 20 years has been generally in the upper echelons of the football League . On the other hand, Bignot has had some limited success , but has a lot to prove that he really has the necessary ability at this level, other than being just a “good fit” for the Club - and where have we heard that before . I feel Barrow’s methods would be different in dealing with poor performances , but I am not convinced that he would be doing any better with this shower than Bignot right now. This squad which the Board allowed McCarthy to assemble for the budget he was given is atrocious, and on the basis of performances so far only 3 or 4 players are worth retaining. In these circumstances whoever was in control would have the practically impossible task of trying to bring in new players in the right positions who can improve results , but with very little money, which means young lads with promise or those needing game time as we have painfully seen already . For what it’s worth, unless something unexpected happens, I can’t see any way out of this self inflicted mess this season , whether we had appointed anyone else including Barrow, Money or Moore. On the brighter side, although progress has not been as hoped so far, and perhaps he was guilty of underestimating the size of the task , I believe Bignot has the potential to be a good manager for us in the longer term. If he assembles a revamped squad over the summer with a suitable budget , then perhaps we can make a decent challenge in Conference North next season.
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Dec 3, 2017 11:36:42 GMT
Won nothing since 1994? Only the FA Cup and 3 promotions with Wigan.............okay as Coach/Asst Manager but that’s far from achieved “nothing”. Martinez didn’t do too well at Everton without him did he? And he offered him a job there. But you’re right why would we want a love in with him, ex manager, coach, player, captain and all round top football Man who is as well as all that very loyal and has hugely fond memories of Chester. Now then lets compare Barrows CV with Bignots and you tell me the interviews weren’t rigged? Probably by MaGuire. In the Operations Board we trust? Heaven help us.......... He's achieved nothing as a manager since 94. The role of assistant is very different from the role of manager as JM found out. He had a spell here in the early noughties which hardly saw him build on his 'legendary' status and he's just been sacked by Chesterfield for leading them to the bottom of League 2 as assistant. If his impact is as great as you suggest within that role then I would suggest that is a worrying endorsement. People need to take off their rose-tinted glasses. The 'all round nice guy' argument is why we were stuck with JM for as long as we were. Too many supporters and board members bought into that as being a sole indicator of success. I am no fan of MM or the operations board but I would suggest the whole fallacy that it was rigged is a little embarassing. To me, most of the people crying for Barrow are Senior Blues who would have loved a monthly get together with Barrow to reminisce about 'the good old days'. Tarvin Blue, you obviously weren’t aware that Chesterfield offered Graham Barrow their managers job? He wasn’t sacked by them, he left out of loyalty to Gary Caldwell. Kind of epitomises your post really, way, way off the mark.
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Post by tarvinblue on Dec 3, 2017 14:54:36 GMT
He's achieved nothing as a manager since 94. The role of assistant is very different from the role of manager as JM found out. He had a spell here in the early noughties which hardly saw him build on his 'legendary' status and he's just been sacked by Chesterfield for leading them to the bottom of League 2 as assistant. If his impact is as great as you suggest within that role then I would suggest that is a worrying endorsement. People need to take off their rose-tinted glasses. The 'all round nice guy' argument is why we were stuck with JM for as long as we were. Too many supporters and board members bought into that as being a sole indicator of success. I am no fan of MM or the operations board but I would suggest the whole fallacy that it was rigged is a little embarassing. To me, most of the people crying for Barrow are Senior Blues who would have loved a monthly get together with Barrow to reminisce about 'the good old days'. Tarvin Blue, you obviously weren’t aware that Chesterfield offered Graham Barrow their managers job? He wasn’t sacked by them, he left out of loyalty to Gary Caldwell. Kind of epitomises your post really, way, way off the mark. You sound like Graham's agent. You can't have it both ways - when he's Roberto's assistant the success is heavily down to him and then when he's at Chesterfield he's blameless.
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Post by Hannibal on Dec 3, 2017 15:00:12 GMT
For some reason which I'm not fully cognisant of Chesterfield is a poisoned chalice and Graham could see that. When they moved into their new purpose-built stadium, crowds almost doubled but they've somehow managed to made a dog's bollux of it. I'm an older fan, but I don't see Barrow as a saviour. A great influence on the pitch, but his time has gone.
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Post by Lobster on Dec 3, 2017 15:02:35 GMT
The Barrow love-in is embarassing. Achieved nothing as a manager since 1994 but some on here seem to think he is some kind of saviour. Jon McCarthy sounded like he knew what he was talking about at times. I've sat at CFU meetings where, if you hadn't been aware of his track record, you'd have thought he was an incredible manager. Bignot has inherited a shambles from JM and is having to beg, steal and borrow to try and change personnel. When you have to operate like that it's not always going to work out. You pay nothing and you can generally expect nothing in return. All we can do is get behind him and accept that he is doing what he can within a challenging set of circumstances. However, I do share the concern that, rather than constantly looking for strikers, he needs to be bringing in a centre back and a winger. Won nothing since 1994? Only the FA Cup and 3 promotions with Wigan.............okay as Coach/Asst Manager but that’s far from achieved “nothing”. Martinez didn’t do too well at Everton without him did he? And he offered him a job there. But you’re right why would we want a love in with him, ex manager, coach, player, captain and all round top football Man who is as well as all that very loyal and has hugely fond memories of Chester. Now then lets compare Barrows CV with Bignots and you tell me the interviews weren’t rigged? Probably by MaGuire. In the Operations Board we trust? Heaven help us.......... It entirely depends what you're looking for in a candidate. Barrow has not been a first-team manager in over a decade, and his only experience of managing in the Conference was with us all the way back in 2001. Bignot, on the other hand, guided a small team into this division on a shoestring and managed in both our division and the Football League last season. No doubt if you're looking at pedigree in the game, Barrow's is more impressive, but if you're looking at recent achievements and relevant attributes to the job we had available, I still think Bignot was the right choice.
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Post by happyclapper on Dec 3, 2017 17:19:48 GMT
He's achieved nothing as a manager since 94. The role of assistant is very different from the role of manager as JM found out. He had a spell here in the early noughties which hardly saw him build on his 'legendary' status and he's just been sacked by Chesterfield for leading them to the bottom of League 2 as assistant. If his impact is as great as you suggest within that role then I would suggest that is a worrying endorsement. People need to take off their rose-tinted glasses. The 'all round nice guy' argument is why we were stuck with JM for as long as we were. Too many supporters and board members bought into that as being a sole indicator of success. I am no fan of MM or the operations board but I would suggest the whole fallacy that it was rigged is a little embarassing. To me, most of the people crying for Barrow are Senior Blues who would have loved a monthly get together with Barrow to reminisce about 'the good old days'. Tarvin Blue, you obviously weren’t aware that Chesterfield offered Graham Barrow their managers job? He wasn’t sacked by them, he left out of loyalty to Gary Caldwell. Kind of epitomises your post really, way, way off the mark. He was offered the caretaker managers job - not the permanent role. That was being interviewed for separately.
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Post by dmcnally on Dec 3, 2017 20:31:34 GMT
Still going on about a man who didn’t even apply. Jesus, turn it in. Jeez how many times - Barrow DID apply and WAS interviewed. FACT. Source? Other than a whiney bitter “journalist”.
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Post by dmcnally on Dec 3, 2017 20:37:00 GMT
Couldn’t get in front of the TV last night I was out and about so listened to Fylde v Wigan on Radio Manchester. Graham Barrow was the match co-commentator/summariser. Bignot must have put in some interview to beat him to the job! His knowledge of Fylde and the Conference was extremely impressive but his understanding of the game and what should and shouldn’t happen was even more so. He called it perfectly, analytically, tactically and understood the game from start to finish. A very impressive intuitive contribution Sorry, but somehow I think we (Mr MaGuire) made an error on this appointment, bit like McCarthy’s massive contract. It was an enormous mistake to let Barrow slip through our fingers, nothing to do with sentiment. He has nouse, experience, tactical knowledge and commands respect. I can't see that we would have had the ever changing shapelessness, panic substitutions and formation changes we are seeing under Bignot. Whilst Bignot has passion and enthusiasm, his forceful attitude has been known to wear thin and alienate the senior players. The cracks are beginning to appear sooner than I expected. John Still was managing when Bignot was in nappies, and on Saturday it showed. Experience has trumped freshness. Perhaps next time, the younger fans like Rio would do well to listen to the older fans who have been around the block and have enough wisdom to call these things. Barrow would have been exactly the steady ship that we desperately need right now to steer us through choppy waters. That final sentence has proper made me cringe. 😂
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Post by dmcnally on Dec 3, 2017 20:39:01 GMT
How do you know he applied for a fact?Only ask as i know 2 families that go home and away and regularly volunteer and they dont know if he did or not.I thought they might have an idea especially as they help out at least once a week. Anyway it's all hypothetical bs as to what he would or wouldnt do. I give up. HE WAS INTERVIEWED. FACT. although it was not a very long interview. Please yourself whether you want to believe it or not, - as the appointment has been made, it is irrelevant anyway. Shouting FACT FACT FACT repeatedly doesn’t make it FACT.
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Post by Al on Dec 3, 2017 21:33:05 GMT
I give up. HE WAS INTERVIEWED. FACT. although it was not a very long interview. Please yourself whether you want to believe it or not, - as the appointment has been made, it is irrelevant anyway. Shouting FACT FACT FACT repeatedly doesn’t make it FACT. But he's right Danny. The great man WAS interviewed. So him putting FACT in capitals, does make it right cause it happened.
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Post by Al on Dec 3, 2017 21:41:23 GMT
It was an enormous mistake to let Barrow slip through our fingers, nothing to do with sentiment. He has nouse, experience, tactical knowledge and commands respect. I can't see that we would have had the ever changing shapelessness, panic substitutions and formation changes we are seeing under Bignot. Whilst Bignot has passion and enthusiasm, his forceful attitude has been known to wear thin and alienate the senior players. The cracks are beginning to appear sooner than I expected. John Still was managing when Bignot was in nappies, and on Saturday it showed. Experience has trumped freshness. Perhaps next time, the younger fans like Rio would do well to listen to the older fans who have been around the block and have enough wisdom to call these things. Barrow would have been exactly the steady ship that we desperately need right now to steer us through choppy waters. That final sentence has proper made me cringe. 😂 Why? It's not as though we've gone out and stopped conceding soft goals is it!? We can't keep clean sheets or defend a lead against 10 men so Bignot's answer is to look at another forward.. This is the problem I have with Marcus. When you come into a struggling g side you've got to first off, make us hard to beat, strengthen us defensively then address the rest of it after. Marcus has come in, signed 2 keepers, 3 forwards, 1 centre back and no wingers in a side with no natural width and already top heavy with forwards with just 2 recognised centre backs on the books. So before you laugh at others, take a look in the mirror at your cringe worthy public backing of Bignot before the interviews. THAT was cringeworthy.
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Post by dmcnally on Dec 3, 2017 22:33:12 GMT
Shouting FACT FACT FACT repeatedly doesn’t make it FACT. But he's right Danny. The great man WAS interviewed. So him putting FACT in capitals, does make it right cause it happened. Still waiting for proof
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Post by dmcnally on Dec 3, 2017 22:33:58 GMT
That final sentence has proper made me cringe. 😂 Why? It's not as though we've gone out and stopped conceding soft goals is it!? We can't keep clean sheets or defend a lead against 10 men so Bignot's answer is to look at another forward.. This is the problem I have with Marcus. When you come into a struggling g side you've got to first off, make us hard to beat, strengthen us defensively then address the rest of it after. Marcus has come in, signed 2 keepers, 3 forwards, 1 centre back and no wingers in a side with no natural width and already top heavy with forwards with just 2 recognised centre backs on the books. So before you laugh at others, take a look in the mirror at your cringe worthy public backing of Bignot before the interviews. THAT was cringeworthy. Top heavy when we have 3 fit strikers and four centre backs lol
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 4, 2017 6:28:32 GMT
That final sentence has proper made me cringe. 😂 Why? It's not as though we've gone out and stopped conceding soft goals is it!? We can't keep clean sheets or defend a lead against 10 men so Bignot's answer is to look at another forward.. This is the problem I have with Marcus. When you come into a struggling g side you've got to first off, make us hard to beat, strengthen us defensively then address the rest of it after. Marcus has come in, signed 2 keepers, 3 forwards, 1 centre back and no wingers in a side with no natural width and already top heavy with forwards with just 2 recognised centre backs on the books. So before you laugh at others, take a look in the mirror at your cringe worthy public backing of Bignot before the interviews. THAT was cringeworthy. Don't need to justify yourself to him pal. Anything that is posted slightly against MM (in this case, a supportive post about an unsuccessful candidate) and his love child pounces on it with an arrogant attitude towards an opinion. For what it's worth I still think Bignot is the right man to build something for the future and attempt to get us back into the Conference within a couple of years, whereas this lad doesn't know what he thinks - he just thinks what MM tells him to think.
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