BREXIT

It is a Tory thing, stop trying to shift the blame.

Are you saying that no Labour voters voted leave?

Not saying that at all, but this was a flagship Tory Policy. Correct me if I’m wrong but the Tories are responsible for the Referendum, the Withdrawl Bill and the new risible EU Trade Agreement. It’s their mess, they own it.

I don’t think Labour Leave voters are responsible for the absolute mess the Tories have made of Brexshit.

My point is the Tories are a bunch of c***ts. No, it doesn't change anything but it cheers me up saying it. 

You say poorly planned it probably was because Cameron didn't want to leave and the referendum was held as it was what he got elected on. I dont think the politicians realised the massive opposition the British public had to being in the EU and thought remain would be a walk in the park. I must admit I did'nt think the country would vote leave but we did and yes the Tories gave us the opportunity for Brexit but who knows had Labour got behind the democratic wishes of the voters and promised to deliver on Brexit they may well have been in power now

That’s a bit off, not sure you can pigeonhole every Leave voter that way. It’s true that many on the Left did vote Leave, but I think it was around 70% of Labour voters that voted Remain, with a similar percentage of Tory voters opting for Leave.
It’ was a complex issue, not helped by the over-simplification and over-selling of the Tories. Whatever happened to those ‘sunlit uplands’ and £350million per week for the NHS? To be honest it’s the usual Tory modus operandi: promise everything, deliver nothing, blame everyone else, and once again, aided by a right wing news media and BBC / ITV client journalism, voters fell for it.
As someone on the Left I recognise the shortcomings of the EU. It’s a cabal of bosses and big business, but at the time of the referendum there was no way I was going to vote the same way as the likes of Johnson, Gove, Farage et al. There is absolutely no way these people have the best interests of working people at heart, and I’m being proved right.

Careful, there's some tory chester fans on here and you're in mancot territory with that remark!

Unfortunately, that was the great myth of the last election. Get Brexit done, but the reality is that Europe will dominate British politics for the foreseeable future The trade agreement is not the end of a process but a start. What if Brexit is visably seen to fail over the next period? Do you expect people to stick with it, particularly the young? The growing call for Scottish Independence is a direct consequence of Brexit and the rise of English Nationalism. And that now looks unstopable Not to mention the strain that has been put on the Good Friday Agreement and the growing call for Irish Unification. All for these issues cant be wished away , however much Johnson would like them to be and Brexit is a Tory problem and was brought about by a civil war, inside Conservativism that the traditional conservatives lost and the popularists snd English Nationalists won. Europe wasnt a major issue , until it spilled over from inside the conservative party to infect the body politic of the UK. Also, sections of the working class voted for Brexit and the Tories, under the mistaken belief that immigration and not austerity, is at the core of there problems but 8 out of the 10 poorest areas, in the EU are in the UK and that isnt going to change soon and Brexit, is likely to make it worse.

Again, we need to stop looking backwards and look forwards to ensure we get the best possible outcome we can!

I literally couldn't care less how we arrived at this point, its done now...

So, as consumers we have the power to influence the market, as and example, instead of moaning theres no shellfish in morrisons we should be going out of our way to source locally produced/farmed foodstuffs to make these big supermarkets think about where they source from

Thats the point. Its not done and wont be for about 10 or 20 years, because its opened up a can of worms re: Scottish Independence and the Unification of Ireland.

Given that the only industry we seem to be able to be able to talk about is fish and that's actually dominated by Scotland, I'm not so sure about that. I think Scotland would do fine on its own.

I remember you previously describing the UK leaving the EU as regressive. Do you think Scotland leaving the UK would also therefore be regressive? Or would that be different?

Not having a pop or anything mate, genuine question.

Scotland leaving the UK and rejoining the EU, would be highly progressive. Regressive for the UK though