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Post by jedthehumanoid on Jan 20, 2021 9:21:27 GMT
I've been keeping an eye on this story and it seems like a real failure of diplomacy. www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-55721729There's a lot of one side blaming the other but from what I've read the EU offered a 90 day visa free period for musicians, crew etc. but the UK wouldn't go for it as it was too much like freedom of movement. That's pretty pathetic if true. Music is a far bigger business than fishing in the UK, around £6 billion a year, but hasn't had near the amount of coverage. Along with getting shafted by Spotify and the pandemic it must be a pretty miserable time to be a professional musician. |
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Jan 20, 2021 9:54:13 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 20, 2021 9:54:13 GMT
I've been keeping an eye on this story and it seems like a real failure of diplomacy. www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-55721729There's a lot of one side blaming the other but from what I've read the EU offered a 90 day visa free period for musicians, crew etc. but the UK wouldn't go for it as it was too much like freedom of movement. That's pretty pathetic if true. Music is a far bigger business than fishing in the UK, around £6 billion a year, but hasn't had near the amount of coverage. Along with getting shafted by Spotify and the pandemic it must be a pretty miserable time to be a professional musician. Unbelievably, Brexshit cheerleader Roger Daltrey is now complaining about this. |
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Jan 21, 2021 16:18:12 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Jan 21, 2021 16:18:12 GMT
I've been keeping an eye on this story and it seems like a real failure of diplomacy. www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-55721729There's a lot of one side blaming the other but from what I've read the EU offered a 90 day visa free period for musicians, crew etc. but the UK wouldn't go for it as it was too much like freedom of movement. That's pretty pathetic if true. Music is a far bigger business than fishing in the UK, around £6 billion a year, but hasn't had near the amount of coverage. Along with getting shafted by Spotify and the pandemic it must be a pretty miserable time to be a professional musician. Unbelievably, Brexshit cheerleader Roger Daltrey is now complaining about this. A bit like the fishing industry moaning when 92% voted for it. As has been said, 52% just don't realise they've lost yet! |
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Jan 22, 2021 6:49:11 GMT
Post by Ian H Block on Jan 22, 2021 6:49:11 GMT
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Jan 22, 2021 11:32:02 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 22, 2021 11:32:02 GMT
The Tories are now refusing to give the EU Ambassador to the U.K. diplomatic status, because ‘the EU is not a proper country’. Just when you thought it couldn’t get any more embarrassing living here.
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Jan 22, 2021 13:17:06 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jan 22, 2021 13:17:06 GMT
The Tories are now refusing to give the EU Ambassador to the U.K. diplomatic status, because ‘the EU is not a proper country’. Just when you thought it couldn’t get any more embarrassing living here. Link to this actually happening please Ian. All I see are reports that the UK is mulling it over. Youre better than this, come on, up your game |
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Jan 22, 2021 13:26:03 GMT
Post by Ian H Block on Jan 22, 2021 13:26:03 GMT
The Tories are now refusing to give the EU Ambassador to the U.K. diplomatic status, because ‘the EU is not a proper country’. Just when you thought it couldn’t get any more embarrassing living here. Link to this actually happening please Ian. All I see are reports that the UK is mulling it over. Youre better than this, come on, up your game Here’s a link
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Jan 22, 2021 13:31:24 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jan 22, 2021 13:31:24 GMT
Link to this actually happening please Ian. All I see are reports that the UK is mulling it over. Youre better than this, come on, up your game Here’s a link
Not happened yet then 🤦🤡💩 |
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Jan 22, 2021 13:34:11 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 22, 2021 13:34:11 GMT
Not happened yet then 🤦🤡💩 Clearly if the EU Ambassador had run over and killed a teenage motorcyclist the Tories would have given them immediate diplomatic status. |
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Jan 22, 2021 13:34:19 GMT
The Tories are now refusing to give the EU Ambassador to the U.K. diplomatic status, because ‘the EU is not a proper country’. Just when you thought it couldn’t get any more embarrassing living here. Link to this actually happening please Ian. All I see are reports that the UK is mulling it over. Youre better than this, come on, up your game I'm surprised Ian is this easily embarrassed given some of the nonsense he puts his name to on here so regularly. |
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Jan 22, 2021 13:37:04 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 22, 2021 13:37:04 GMT
Link to this actually happening please Ian. All I see are reports that the UK is mulling it over. Youre better than this, come on, up your game I'm surprised Ian is this easily embarrassed given some of the nonsense he puts his name to on here so regularly. At least I don’t have to live with the shame and embarrassment of voting Tory. Pot, kettle, black, blood, hands and all that. |
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Jan 22, 2021 22:28:07 GMT
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Post by Bob on Jan 22, 2021 22:28:07 GMT
Brexshit.
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Jan 23, 2021 4:24:23 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jan 23, 2021 4:24:23 GMT
I've been keeping an eye on this story and it seems like a real failure of diplomacy. www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-55721729There's a lot of one side blaming the other but from what I've read the EU offered a 90 day visa free period for musicians, crew etc. but the UK wouldn't go for it as it was too much like freedom of movement. That's pretty pathetic if true. Music is a far bigger business than fishing in the UK, around £6 billion a year, but hasn't had near the amount of coverage. Along with getting shafted by Spotify and the pandemic it must be a pretty miserable time to be a professional musician. Unbelievably, Brexshit cheerleader Roger Daltrey is now complaining about this. Wont get fooled, again. Looks like he just did. |
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Jan 23, 2021 4:25:48 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jan 23, 2021 4:25:48 GMT
Going well isnt it?
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Jan 23, 2021 6:02:10 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 23, 2021 6:02:10 GMT
The posh boys have secured their off-shore tax havens and the working class Tory lickspittles have been thrown a few blue passports as a reward, so yes, in Brexshit world it’s going great. |
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Jan 23, 2021 6:28:41 GMT
Post by Ian H Block on Jan 23, 2021 6:28:41 GMT
Like fishermen, the cheese makers have also been thrown under that bus.  |
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Jan 23, 2021 7:27:16 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jan 23, 2021 7:27:16 GMT
Like fishermen, the cheese makers have also been thrown under that bus. View Attachment Any medium or small firms that trade, in Europe , from Cheese exporters to fisherman are finding it uneconomical to export to the EU. There was an interview yesterday, with a fish exporter, who was bemoaning the fact that this was not the tariff free, keep all existing benefits Brexit, he voted for. What did he think was going to happen? |
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Jan 23, 2021 8:31:00 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jan 23, 2021 8:31:00 GMT
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Jan 23, 2021 8:47:12 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 23, 2021 8:47:12 GMT
Show me the positives then. |
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jan 23, 2021 9:21:07 GMT
Show me the positives then. The positives will come when the EU stop being so petty |
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Jan 23, 2021 9:33:45 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 23, 2021 9:33:45 GMT
Show me the positives then. The positives will come when the EU stop being so petty What was with posting that article then? Clearly you haven’t read it, or more likely, not understood it. Starting to become a bit of a refrain with Brexshitters. As for the EU being petty, the lack of self-awareness of the Billy Brexshit brigade never fails to amaze. |
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Jan 23, 2021 9:35:48 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jan 23, 2021 9:35:48 GMT
The positives will come when the EU stop being so petty What was with posting that article then? Clearly you haven’t read it, or more likely, not understood it. Starting to become a bit of a refrain with Brexshitters. As for the EU being petty, the lack of self-awareness of the Billy Brexshit brigade never fails to amaze. You didn't read it either then! Its the EU who are enforcing these bullshit rules around expensive certificates that need to go with business to customer shipments, these are not needed when shipping business to business... Whats the reason behind it? I'll give you a clue, there isn't one, and it's the EU being petty |
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Jan 23, 2021 9:40:31 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jan 23, 2021 9:40:31 GMT
Just to add, the solution to all of this is for the UK and the EU to agree to an MRA, which is a mutual recognition agreement.
The EU already has these in place with other 3rd countries (outside of the EU) and it means these additional certificates are not needed.
But you're an expert on the EU so you knew this already 🙄
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Jan 23, 2021 9:48:05 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 23, 2021 9:48:05 GMT
Just to add, the solution to all of this is for the UK and the EU to agree to an MRA, which is a mutual recognition agreement. The EU already has these in place with other 3rd countries (outside of the EU) and it means these additional certificates are not needed. But you're an expert on the EU so you knew this already 🙄 These rules have been in place for years though, it’s nothing new. Not sure why you’re shaking your fist at the EU, they are just enforcing the rules we agreed previously. I think you and the other Brexshit cult members need de-programming or something. |
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Jan 23, 2021 9:51:00 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jan 23, 2021 9:51:00 GMT
Just to add, the solution to all of this is for the UK and the EU to agree to an MRA, which is a mutual recognition agreement. The EU already has these in place with other 3rd countries (outside of the EU) and it means these additional certificates are not needed. But you're an expert on the EU so you knew this already 🙄 These rules have been in place for years though, it’s nothing new. Not sure why you’re shaking your fist at the EU, they are just enforcing the rules we agreed previously. I think you and the other Brexshit cult members need de-programming or something. There is no agreement for business to customer shipments. Are you trying to claim that the UK and the EU negotiated this? Evidence please |
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Jan 23, 2021 9:52:38 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 23, 2021 9:52:38 GMT
Just to add, the solution to all of this is for the UK and the EU to agree to an MRA, which is a mutual recognition agreement. The EU already has these in place with other 3rd countries (outside of the EU) and it means these additional certificates are not needed. But you're an expert on the EU so you knew this already 🙄 You mean like the one for medicine - European Medicines Agency, which the Tories made a big play of leaving? |
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Jan 23, 2021 9:56:08 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jan 23, 2021 9:56:08 GMT
Just to add, the solution to all of this is for the UK and the EU to agree to an MRA, which is a mutual recognition agreement. The EU already has these in place with other 3rd countries (outside of the EU) and it means these additional certificates are not needed. But you're an expert on the EU so you knew this already 🙄 You mean like the one for medicine - European Medicines Agency, which the Tories made a big play of leaving? Goodness me, you really haven't got a clue have you! There is no MRA in place between the MHRA and the EMA. That's why testing, batch release and sample storage of UK made medicines has to take place in an EU facility since 31st December... The point is, if we had agreed an MRA, that would mean we could use the UK process like before, providing both sides were happy with the process. |
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Jan 23, 2021 10:00:38 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 23, 2021 10:00:38 GMT
These rules have been in place for years though, it’s nothing new. Not sure why you’re shaking your fist at the EU, they are just enforcing the rules we agreed previously. I think you and the other Brexshit cult members need de-programming or something. There is no agreement for business to customer shipments. Are you trying to claim that the UK and the EU negotiated this? Evidence please There have always been rules, regulations and tariffs regarding the import arrangements for dairy products into the EU. They are simply enforcing existing rules (legislation we agreed as an EU member). I understand it doesn’t fit with your right whinge, always aggrieved, always the victim narrative, but rules are rules. If the Tories want special treatment they should have tried to negotiate some, instead of wasting everyone’s time for four years. |
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Jan 23, 2021 10:05:44 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jan 23, 2021 10:05:44 GMT
There is no agreement for business to customer shipments. Are you trying to claim that the UK and the EU negotiated this? Evidence please There have always been rules, regulations and tariffs regarding the import arrangements for dairy products into the EU. They are simply enforcing existing rules (legislation we agreed as an EU member). I understand it doesn’t fit with your right whinge, always aggrieved, always the victim narrative, but rules are rules. If the Tories want special treatment they should have tried to negotiate some, instead of wasting everyone’s time for four years. The point is, there hasn't been an appetite on either side to agree what documents are needed for B2C shipments, you want to blame the UK, I'm saying it takes two to tango... The solution is an MRA, but you don't care about solutions do you |
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Jan 23, 2021 10:14:10 GMT
Post by Ian H Block on Jan 23, 2021 10:14:10 GMT
There have always been rules, regulations and tariffs regarding the import arrangements for dairy products into the EU. They are simply enforcing existing rules (legislation we agreed as an EU member). I understand it doesn’t fit with your right whinge, always aggrieved, always the victim narrative, but rules are rules. If the Tories want special treatment they should have tried to negotiate some, instead of wasting everyone’s time for four years. The point is, there hasn't been an appetite on either side to agree what documents are needed for B2C shipments, you want to blame the UK, I'm saying it takes two to tango... The solution is an MRA, but you don't care about solutions do you All evidence points to the fact that the last thing the Tories want are MRAs with Europe. Clearly it doesn’t fit with their desire for a Singapore-style low tax, low regulation economy. They’ve only had four years to negotiate and what they’ve produced is something that would embarrass Mark Maguire. You should listen to yourself with all this ‘negative numpty’, ‘’don’t care about solutions’ nonsense. It’s like telling someone you’ve burnt down their house, but it’s okay, Millets have got a sale on in their tents department. Or telling a double amputee in hospital to cheer up, the fella in the next bed wants to buy your slippers. |
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