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Jan 23, 2021 10:15:36 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jan 23, 2021 10:15:36 GMT
The point is, there hasn't been an appetite on either side to agree what documents are needed for B2C shipments, you want to blame the UK, I'm saying it takes two to tango... The solution is an MRA, but you don't care about solutions do you All evidence points to the fact that the last thing the Tories want are MRAs with Europe. Clearly it doesn’t fit with their desire for a Singapore-style low tax, low regulation economy. They’ve only had four years to negotiate and what they’ve produced is something that would embarrass Mark Maguire. You should listen to yourself with all this ‘negative numpty’, ‘’don’t care about solutions’ nonsense. It’s like telling someone you’ve burnt down their house, but it’s okay, Millets have got a sale on in their tents department. Or telling a double amputee in hospital to cheer up, the fella in the next bed wants to buy your slippers. All the evidence 🤣 go on then, links to this "evidence" please... No, didn't think so |
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Jan 23, 2021 10:29:19 GMT
Post by Ian H Block on Jan 23, 2021 10:29:19 GMT
All evidence points to the fact that the last thing the Tories want are MRAs with Europe. Clearly it doesn’t fit with their desire for a Singapore-style low tax, low regulation economy. They’ve only had four years to negotiate and what they’ve produced is something that would embarrass Mark Maguire. You should listen to yourself with all this ‘negative numpty’, ‘’don’t care about solutions’ nonsense. It’s like telling someone you’ve burnt down their house, but it’s okay, Millets have got a sale on in their tents department. Or telling a double amputee in hospital to cheer up, the fella in the next bed wants to buy your slippers. All the evidence 🤣 go on then, links to this "evidence" please... No, didn't think so Keep drinking that Kool-Aid son link |
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jan 23, 2021 10:39:18 GMT
All the evidence 🤣 go on then, links to this "evidence" please... No, didn't think so Keep drinking that Kool-Aid son linkI read that article which is somewhat low on detail twice and couldn't see anything about not wanting an MRA with the EU. It does tell me that standards will be reviewed and new ideas will be scoped. “This isn’t about lowering standards, but about raising our eyes to look to the future — making the most of new sectors, new thinking and new ways of working.” Try harder Ian, please. It's getting tedious now, but I wouldn't expect anything else from a civil servant who has no idea about real business |
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Jan 23, 2021 12:26:38 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 23, 2021 12:26:38 GMT
Keep drinking that Kool-Aid son linkI read that article which is somewhat low on detail twice and couldn't see anything about not wanting an MRA with the EU. It does tell me that standards will be reviewed and new ideas will be scoped. “This isn’t about lowering standards, but about raising our eyes to look to the future — making the most of new sectors, new thinking and new ways of working.” Try harder Ian, please. It's getting tedious now, but I wouldn't expect anything else from a civil servant who has no idea about real business Bit rich coming from someone who thinks he’s Lee Iacocca, yet comes across as more of a Mr Micawber. Keep going with the blind optimism, leave the real world to the rest of us. |
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Jan 23, 2021 14:36:05 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jan 23, 2021 14:36:05 GMT
I read that article which is somewhat low on detail twice and couldn't see anything about not wanting an MRA with the EU. It does tell me that standards will be reviewed and new ideas will be scoped. “This isn’t about lowering standards, but about raising our eyes to look to the future — making the most of new sectors, new thinking and new ways of working.” Try harder Ian, please. It's getting tedious now, but I wouldn't expect anything else from a civil servant who has no idea about real business Bit rich coming from someone who thinks he’s Lee Iacocca, yet comes across as more of a Mr Micawber. Keep going with the blind optimism, leave the real world to the rest of us. 🤣🤣 Oh dear Ian When you've been debunked yet again this is the best you can do to push for the last word. Bring some hard facts to the table and we'll have sensible debate, until then I suggest you save yourself the embarrassment 😆 |
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Jan 23, 2021 14:46:16 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 23, 2021 14:46:16 GMT
6 hours in and we’re still waiting for you to show us all the positive bits in this article. |
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Jan 23, 2021 14:48:33 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 23, 2021 14:48:33 GMT
Bit rich coming from someone who thinks he’s Lee Iacocca, yet comes across as more of a Mr Micawber. Keep going with the blind optimism, leave the real world to the rest of us. 🤣🤣 Oh dear Ian When you've been debunked yet again this is the best you can do to push for the last word. Bring some hard facts to the table and we'll have sensible debate, until then I suggest you save yourself the embarrassment 😆 Plastering emojis on your posts does not disguise the paucity of your argument. Still, it keeps Bambi and the other deep thinkers amused I suppose. |
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Jan 23, 2021 16:07:30 GMT
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Jan 23, 2021 16:07:30 GMT
🤣🤣 Oh dear Ian When you've been debunked yet again this is the best you can do to push for the last word. Bring some hard facts to the table and we'll have sensible debate, until then I suggest you save yourself the embarrassment 😆 Plastering emojis on your posts does not disguise the paucity of your argument. Still, it keeps Bambi and the other deep thinkers amused I suppose. Not really, your wacky ideas about socialism working and rose tinted views on everything the EU does have been providing us with enough laughs as it is! |
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Jan 23, 2021 17:03:54 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jan 23, 2021 17:03:54 GMT
Plastering emojis on your posts does not disguise the paucity of your argument. Still, it keeps Bambi and the other deep thinkers amused I suppose. Not really, your wacky ideas about socialism working and rose tinted views on everything the EU does have been providing us with enough laughs as it is! Not seeing any positives of Brexit just firms losing money or jobs or contracts or trade with the EU, due to more regulations and red tape, post Brexit. Where are the sunny uplands we were promised? |
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Post by lincolnexile on Jan 23, 2021 17:23:10 GMT
Not really, your wacky ideas about socialism working and rose tinted views on everything the EU does have been providing us with enough laughs as it is! Not seeing any positives of Brexit just firms losing money or jobs or contracts or trade with the EU, due to more regulations and red tape, post Brexit. Where are the sunny uplands we were promised? Developments regarding the Nissan car plant in Sunderland seem fairly positive. |
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Jan 23, 2021 18:53:33 GMT
Post by Lobster on Jan 23, 2021 18:53:33 GMT
Not seeing any positives of Brexit just firms losing money or jobs or contracts or trade with the EU, due to more regulations and red tape, post Brexit. Where are the sunny uplands we were promised? Developments regarding the Nissan car plant in Sunderland seem fairly positive. That's in spite of Brexit, not because of Brexit though. The reason they left it this long to commit is because they were worried of no deal. I could help out and say that we appear to be doing better than the EU with the vaccine, although whether that's anything to do with Brexit I doubt. |
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Post by lincolnexile on Jan 23, 2021 19:05:40 GMT
Developments regarding the Nissan car plant in Sunderland seem fairly positive. That's in spite of Brexit, not because of Brexit though. The reason they left it this long to commit is because they were worried of no deal. I could help out and say that we appear to be doing better than the EU with the vaccine, although whether that's anything to do with Brexit I doubt. Not according to the chief operations officer of Nissan but hey ho what does he know compared to you eh? |
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Jan 23, 2021 19:25:42 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jan 23, 2021 19:25:42 GMT
Not seeing any positives of Brexit just firms losing money or jobs or contracts or trade with the EU, due to more regulations and red tape, post Brexit. Where are the sunny uplands we were promised? Developments regarding the Nissan car plant in Sunderland seem fairly positive. I suppose the Brexiteers do need to grasp hold of whatever positive stories, they can get their hands on given the vast majority of news is negative and highly predictable. |
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Jan 23, 2021 19:29:56 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jan 23, 2021 19:29:56 GMT
Developments regarding the Nissan car plant in Sunderland seem fairly positive. I suppose the Brexiteers do need to grasp hold of whatever positive stories, they can get their hands on given the vast majority of news is negative and highly predictable. I just enjoy debunking the negative stories with knowledge of supply chain that most of you negative numpties don't have. I'm not particularly fond of brexit myself, but its fun to see you lot throw your toys out when your project fear stuff is unpicked |
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Jan 23, 2021 19:31:24 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jan 23, 2021 19:31:24 GMT
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Jan 23, 2021 19:39:23 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jan 23, 2021 19:39:23 GMT
Again, until there is an agreement between UK and the EU to eliminate these expensive certificates that are currently needed to ship goods business to customer things won't change. Business to business is fine though, which is why these businesses are thinking of setting up sister companies in the EU. Its all project fear stuff and will be sorted out sooner than you think |
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 23, 2021 19:51:59 GMT
I suppose the Brexiteers do need to grasp hold of whatever positive stories, they can get their hands on given the vast majority of news is negative and highly predictable. I just enjoy debunking the negative stories with knowledge of supply chain that most of you negative numpties don't have. I'm not particularly fond of brexit myself, but its fun to see you lot throw your toys out when your project fear stuff is unpicked Not wanting to sound like a ‘negative numpty’ but we’re still waiting for you to show us those positives you imagined in the cheese article. Understand you’re a slow reader but it’s been 12 hours now. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 23, 2021 19:55:02 GMT
That's in spite of Brexit, not because of Brexit though. The reason they left it this long to commit is because they were worried of no deal. I could help out and say that we appear to be doing better than the EU with the vaccine, although whether that's anything to do with Brexit I doubt. Not according to the chief operations officer of Nissan but hey ho what does he know compared to you eh? According to the owners of the Cheshire Cheese Company Brexshit has been a disaster for his Company. However Oaks Blue was quickly on hand to debunk this, what with his vast knowledge of cheese, a product he spends most evenings making, alone in his box room. |
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Jan 23, 2021 19:59:20 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jan 23, 2021 19:59:20 GMT
I just enjoy debunking the negative stories with knowledge of supply chain that most of you negative numpties don't have. I'm not particularly fond of brexit myself, but its fun to see you lot throw your toys out when your project fear stuff is unpicked Not wanting to sound like a ‘negative numpty’ but we’re still waiting for you to show us those positives you imagined in the cheese article. Understand you’re a slow reader but it’s been 12 hours now. Thats not how this game works. I debunk your negative shit. Its fun |
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 23, 2021 20:12:11 GMT
Not wanting to sound like a ‘negative numpty’ but we’re still waiting for you to show us those positives you imagined in the cheese article. Understand you’re a slow reader but it’s been 12 hours now. Thats not how this game works. I debunk your negative shit. Its fun You’ve debunked nothing sweetie and when asked repeatedly to indicate where you imagined the positives in the Guardian article, became strangely silent. Quite incredible that you and the other Brexshit cult members are now flagging up the example of a company not deserting the U.K. as some kind of success story. Has the bar been set that low? |
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Jan 23, 2021 20:16:47 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jan 23, 2021 20:16:47 GMT
Thats not how this game works. I debunk your negative shit. Its fun You’ve debunked nothing sweetie and when asked repeatedly to indicate where you imagined the positives in the Guardian article, became strangely silent. Quite incredible that you and the other Brexshit cult members are now flagging up the example of a company not deserting the U.K. as some kind of success story. Has the bar been set that low? I said the positives come when the EU stop being so petty and its true. Business to customer will be sorted soon, and these stories disappear. I dont trawl the Internet everyday to find brexit stuff, you clearly do then run here to post it. |
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Jan 23, 2021 20:20:41 GMT
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Post by lincolnexile on Jan 23, 2021 20:20:41 GMT
Thats not how this game works. I debunk your negative shit. Its fun You’ve debunked nothing sweetie and when asked repeatedly to indicate where you imagined the positives in the Guardian article, became strangely silent. Quite incredible that you and the other Brexshit cult members are now flagging up the example of a company not deserting the U.K. as some kind of success story. Has the bar been set that low? I’m not a member of any Brexit cult, I didn’t vote. One of your mates wanted an example of a positive Brexit Story and Nissan staying in Sunderland is one in my opinion. |
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Jan 23, 2021 20:51:10 GMT
Post by Lobster on Jan 23, 2021 20:51:10 GMT
That's in spite of Brexit, not because of Brexit though. The reason they left it this long to commit is because they were worried of no deal. I could help out and say that we appear to be doing better than the EU with the vaccine, although whether that's anything to do with Brexit I doubt. Not according to the chief operations officer of Nissan but hey ho what does he know compared to you eh? Why the sarky tone? What he said has been widely given a pro- Brexit angle by certain newspapers. He said "The Brexit deal is positive for Nissan". I'd say the operative word there is "deal", not "Brexit". The main thing he's going on about is no tariffs for exports to the EU, but that's only an issue at all because we're leaving. Https://www.manufacturingmanagement.co.uk/news/brexit-gives-a-competitive-edge-says-nissan-cooOnly six months ago, the same bloke was stressing how important a trade deal was to them staying in Sunderland. In other words, Brexit threatened their operations there and its only because we fudged a last-minute deal that they stayed. www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/nissan-sunderland-plant-brexit-trade-deal-uk-eu-a9545851.htmlIt's not positive Brexit news, it's something that's been unaffected by Brexit - that's not the same thing. Positive Brexit news means something that being independent from the EU helped with. |
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Jan 24, 2021 6:27:51 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jan 24, 2021 6:27:51 GMT
Again, until there is an agreement between UK and the EU to eliminate these expensive certificates that are currently needed to ship goods business to customer things won't change. Business to business is fine though, which is why these businesses are thinking of setting up sister companies in the EU. Its all project fear stuff and will be sorted out sooner than you think At last, I have discovered a positive of Brexit, that a large section of the engine of British business, are moving some of rheir operations, into the EU ( to avoid red tape and delays)and will mean more staff are employed, in France , Eire, Netherlands etc What a boost to the economies of the 27 EU states, this increased investment will be. The downside of this is job losses, in the UK, but i am sure that the Brexiteers are aware of this and will compensate, people losing their job, as a direct consequence of border delays and 20% vat payable by customers, on delivery. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 24, 2021 6:29:46 GMT
At last, I have discovered a positive of Brexit, that a large section of the engine of British business, are moving some of rheir operations, into the EU ( to avoid red tape and delays)and will mean more staff are employed, in France , Eire, Netherlands etc What a boost to the economies of the 27 EU states, this increased investment will be. The downside of this is job losses, in the UK, but i am sure that the Brexiteers are aware of this and will compensate, people losing their job, as a direct consequence of border delays and 20% vat payable by customers, on delivery.  |
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Jan 24, 2021 7:02:45 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jan 24, 2021 7:02:45 GMT
Its a positive, just not for the UK. Wasnt the whole idea of Brexit to allow the UK to gsin a competitive advantage over other countries, not to help other countries gain advantage over us I see plenty of stories of businesses opening branches, in Europe, but very little mass inward investment, in project Brexit, unless you count Nissan, bucking the trend and not moving sticks, as a roaring success. |
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Jan 24, 2021 7:47:29 GMT
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Post by lincolnexile on Jan 24, 2021 7:47:29 GMT
Its a positive, just not for the UK. Wasnt the whole idea of Brexit to allow the UK to gsin a competitive advantage over other countries, not to help other countries gain advantage over us I see plenty of stories of businesses opening branches, in Europe, but very little mass inward investment, in project Brexit, unless you count Nissan, bucking the trend and not moving sticks, as a roaring success. So securing tens of thousands of jobs in the North East is not a positive for the UK then? |
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Jan 24, 2021 8:10:24 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jan 24, 2021 8:10:24 GMT
Its a positive, just not for the UK. Wasnt the whole idea of Brexit to allow the UK to gsin a competitive advantage over other countries, not to help other countries gain advantage over us I see plenty of stories of businesses opening branches, in Europe, but very little mass inward investment, in project Brexit, unless you count Nissan, bucking the trend and not moving sticks, as a roaring success. So securing tens of thousands of jobs in the North East is not a positive for the UK then? Retaining jobs is a positive, but hasnt the bar been set a little low here Where is the utopia we were promised or has that shifted to the Netherlands, where most of the UK companies are setting up bases. A modern , tolerant and outwardlooking European state All the things the UK is not. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 24, 2021 8:28:43 GMT
Its a positive, just not for the UK. Wasnt the whole idea of Brexit to allow the UK to gsin a competitive advantage over other countries, not to help other countries gain advantage over us I see plenty of stories of businesses opening branches, in Europe, but very little mass inward investment, in project Brexit, unless you count Nissan, bucking the trend and not moving sticks, as a roaring success. So securing tens of thousands of jobs in the North East is not a positive for the UK then? Why did these jobs need securing in the first place? |
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Jan 27, 2021 17:30:39 GMT
Post by Derry Blue on Jan 27, 2021 17:30:39 GMT
I don’t think I’ll take lectures from you or certain others on this thread about being “nasty” Bye then. You’d like that wouldn’t you. Then you and you mates could preach to each other without people disagreeing. |
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